Why is bullying still an issue?

[RaikuFA]

At least once a month I hear of a kid killing themself or going insane. Why does it happen? Bullying is the answer. I want to ask though WHY DOSEN'T THE SCHOOL GET INVOLVED? I can understand cyberbullying but the ignore button is there for a reason, plus police care more about the bullying online than bullying that happens in schools.

Apparently, my situation still happens to this day. Day after day I was beaten down to the point where I had bruises, a bloody nose etc. The schools response? "We didn't see anything." A teacher actually encouraged me getting beaten. The schools response? "We can't do anything, she's a teacher." What if another teacher saw and we were dragged to the principals office? "Well, the kid with the bruises everyday probably started it so we're gonna suspend him for three days while the other gets a days suspension."

I mean what do you do? Whats it gonna take foor this shit to stop?

 

[Balvale]

More suicides and shooting, sadly.

People aren't going to rally in force and make demands till the situation comes to a boil. Schools don't want media attention on bullying because it casts them in a negative light. They can play the odds - which are in their favour - and wait for those getting bullied to move and and get out. Chances are, there won't be a school shooting and they can play suicides off as emotional instability.

Apathy thy name is education.

 

[Esotera]

It's never going to stop, human nature.

Teach little boys how to be men and suck it up? Teach little girls to do whatever it is girls do?

Sadly this. Humans are social creatures and that seems to involve excluding others from a group sometimes...even if it's horrible for the person being excluded, it's still probably going to happen. The only way it'll be defeated is accepting that it's going to happen and getting the person being bullied to ignore it or stand up for themselves, whilst simultaneously discouraging bullying & building awareness. And that's a pretty hard thing to implement globally.

 

[Orks da best]

If that kid kills himself/loses it over some bullying, I imagine he had a lot more problems than just bullying. Or was just extremely weak minded to begin with.

not every bully is so simply minded or easy to chase off, some come again and again, and do major psyciloical damage to a person, plus being at a young age, most brains aren't fully developed, so the kid in question won't be as strong willed as an adult, though kids have shown themsevles rather clever at times.

 

[Fleischer]

As someone who works in a middle school, I know the fellow educators I work with take a firm stand against bullying. It is more difficult than you'd think to notice, but we, as a staff, have made it a priority to watch for warning signs of bullying.

My theory upon the high incidence of suicide among the targets of bullying is that the Internet has intensified the attacks against the bullied. It adds a layer of shame and verbal abuse/slander that makes it almost impossible for the bullied to find refuge from their attackers.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

I see it more of a societal thing. If someone's first resort is to kill themselves...and it's happening all over the country. Bullying in schools has been around since the Academy. Why is it just now that suicide is becoming more and more of a trend. When I was bullied, sure i thought of it, yeah the thought comes up everyday. But the concequences of my actions stop the urge. So I guess it is still an issue because we make things much bigger than need be.

 

[snake4769]

People need to stop being a bunch of pansies and fight back. I mean what drives someone into suicide or a school shooting spree. Opposed to just closing your fist and smashing the shitface bully in the face. Or if you are too weak, maybe hire someone even. I don't care, but all i know is i do not respect the idiot who committed a shooting or suicide at all, especially over something as silly as bullying.

 

[nukethetuna]

If that kid kills himself/loses it over some bullying, I imagine he had a lot more problems than just bullying. Or was just extremely weak minded to begin with.

Your perspective makes me sad.
It's not the fault of the people being bullied. Snapping after getting the shit kicked out of you or having your personal business broadcast to the world or being made to feel worthless does not make you weak-minded. If you want to be particular, ALL kids are "weak-minded" to begin with; they're still developing and biologically they are very impressionable. This continues well into adolescence. If the impression they develop is that they are going to be constantly abused physically or that they can't trust anyone to be on their side, then yeah, they might take a turn for the worst.



It happens because people are jerks. When they beat the crap out of you, they believe you are even more pathetic than they are. Unfortunately, power is a very addictive thing, and bullying certainly gives you that.

Unfortunately, if the people who are supposed to be keeping you safe aren't doing their job, it may seem impossible to stop. There's always someone higher in the chain of command though, and if you yell loud enough they'll eventually have to address it (if image is in fact their reason for neglect).

Obviously there's no easy solution or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[TheIronRuler]

At least once a month I hear of a kid killing themself or going insane. Why does it happen? Bullying is the answer. I want to ask though WHY DOSEN'T THE SCHOOL GET INVOLVED? I can understand cyberbullying but the ignore button is there for a reason, plus police care more about the bullying online than bullying that happens in schools.

Apparently, my situation still happens to this day. Day after day I was beaten down to the point where I had bruises, a bloody nose etc. The schools response? "We didn't see anything." A teacher actually encouraged me getting beaten. The schools response? "We can't do anything, she's a teacher." What if another teacher saw and we were dragged to the principals office? "Well, the kid with the bruises everyday probably started it so we're gonna suspend him for three days while the other gets a days suspension."

I mean what do you do? Whats it gonna take foor this shit to stop?

It's easy to blame one child instead of a group. It is much easier to ignore it.
It is even more easy to live in prison where all your needs are taken care of.
...Bring this up to an official in your ministery of education that is responsible for your area. Speak with the media. YOU make a story out of it that they CAN'T F*CKING IGNORE.
Take it from someone that experienced similar events. They will fold if YOU pressure them, then you will smile as they ask you to stop...
And then all of those Teachers, Principals and Councilors will look up and shout, "Save Us..." and I will look down and whisper, "No.".

 

[dickywebster]

Id say its cause the school either cant do anything, wont do anything or doesnt believe you.

Now i spent years, most of my school life been bullied pretty much for been the small kid and later of for been different/wierd. At first the school stepped in and there were mild punishments handed out, suspensions never happened though. As it carried on, they started to believe that i was making it up to some extent and that it was a cry for attention and even beliving the bullies when they said a skinny 5 foot kid attacked several noticeably larger kids for little or no reason. Then it got to the point where they just stopped acting all together beyond telling us to shake hands then go away. On the bright side most of the bullies then left the school to go to others to do A levels and there were like 2 left and they didnt have the guts to carry on with so few numbers as years of having guy try and beat me up every day had left with with the habit of inflicting as much pain in a short space of time as i could to discourage the groups from attacking me as it wouldnt be worth it.

As for more generally, people are as a whole a bunch of violent idiots who will pick on those who are weaker than they are to make themselves feel better or distract from their problems. If you dont believe me, go and read a history of the american century and tell me that doesnt sound like americans cold war policy, or for other examples, go and read some histories of say the last 500 years.

You might be able to limit bullying, but at the end of the day teachers cant be everywhere and some people get off on it to some extent, so without some kind of mass cultural thing like star trek where everyone gets along a nice huggy bunch, it will carry on.
Heck, work place bullying is not unheard of, so its not just kids that do it. On top of that, with the internet been so widespread, online bullying means that even in their own home people can still be taunted.

 

[ace_of_something]

At least once a month I hear of a kid killing themself or going insane. Why does it happen? Bullying is the answer. I want to ask though WHY DOSEN'T THE SCHOOL GET INVOLVED? I can understand cyberbullying but the ignore button is there for a reason, plus police care more about the bullying online than bullying that happens in schools.

Apparently, my situation still happens to this day. Day after day I was beaten down to the point where I had bruises, a bloody nose etc. The schools response? "We didn't see anything." A teacher actually encouraged me getting beaten. The schools response? "We can't do anything, she's a teacher." What if another teacher saw and we were dragged to the principals office? "Well, the kid with the bruises everyday probably started it so we're gonna suspend him for three days while the other gets a days suspension."

I mean what do you do? Whats it gonna take foor this shit to stop?

It's not just the school. That's really short-sighted an immature thinking the teachers account for 100% of a child's development.

Guess how often kids LIE or EXAGGERATE about bullying? Go on guess.
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Yeah, it's way higher than whatever you guessed. Staff are not detectives they can only go off of what they see, Bruises can be self inflicted. Oh, and not to mention due to lawsuits galore most schools can't do much more than in school suspension anymore. Parents sue when their kids have out of school (i work! i need him to be at school) or they don't punish their kids at ALL when they get home.

Not to mention it's a fundamental part of human nature. It can't be stopped. It can only be re-acted to.

 

[Scrustle]

Simple. Some kids are just dicks. Always have been, always will be. They haven't yet developed a sense of morality, or in some cases even a theory of mind (the realisation that other people have completely different mental stated than yourself) so they believe that they can treat other people exactly how they want. So sometimes that means they take out their frustrations on other children, often in a violent way because they don't have the mental capacity to think their problems through introspectively. And the reason teachers don't do anything about it is because it's hard to work out who is at fault when situations like this arise. Because of the previously mentioned lack of morality in children they will have no problem in just flat out lying about what happened in order to get out of it. Also they always have the fear that if they punish the wrong person or do something else wrong that the parents of the child will come down on them like a ton of bricks and they will lose their job because of the mishandling of the situation.

 

[Danglybits]

I think that part of the problem is the value people place on primary school and highschool in particular. Those 4 years are not that important and you never have to deal with these people again. EVER. Maybe if kids and teens could see that this has an end (that isn't suicide or murder) then they would choose other methods of coping.

 

[triggrhappy94]

My school is actually super anti-bullying. They suspended a kid weeks before graduation (because of school policy he wasn't allowed to attented his graduation), because someone in his PE class tackled someone in the locker room while everyone was changing and tried to get the senior to Tea-bag the kid.

After that all the teachers had to talk to their classes about reporting bullying. As it turned out nobody, but a couple douchebags who mostly keep to themselves, deals with bullying.

 

[Baneat]

Apparently, my situation still happens to this day. Day after day I was beaten down to the point where I had bruises, a bloody nose etc. The schools response? "We didn't see anything." A teacher actually encouraged me getting beaten.

Got a feeling there's more to this story.