Because Mass Effect 3's ending was such a clusterfuck of writing 101 failure that the only way they could do another Mass effect game was to, literally, set it in another Galaxy.
Why is humanity looking for a new home if the Reapers were destroyed?
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Well the first time we ever see a reaper, on Eden Prime in ME1, as it takes off we see it discharging red lightning. And the codex entry on the reapers in ME3 goes over some of their weaknesses, including having to discharge drive static, albeit much less frequently than the ships of the organic races. Plus the simple fact that if they had overcome this problem, as I said they likely would have conquered the Andromeda galaxy as well.undeadsuitor said:
The info on the new drive is in one of the videos here https://www.masseffect.com/en-gb/andromeda-initiative.TheVampwizimp said:
Also who is to say that the Reapers hadn't solved the problem. They covered Mass Relay distance after all without needing to discharge their cores when they travelled from dark space. Hell it could even have been technology salvaged from Sovereign that made the Andromeda initiative possible in the first place.
Basically this. The entire reason of this is to get far away from the ME3 ending and we could start all over. Because for some reason they can't just freaking retcon the ending from never happening...Silentpony said:
The reason would be that if they did that, they would alienate the bulk of the gaming media.erttheking said:
Remember all those articles just branding people who didn't like the ending entitled whiners who simply didn't understand artistic integrity? Well imagine how they would react to finding out Bioware had gone "yeah they were right, sorry about that."
Bioware would never see positive coverage for their games again.
Does anyone know the indoctrination theory? (the last events in ME3 are happening only in Shepard's head as he is fighting with the reaper indoctrination). If this is true (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEj5FsBXFuM) then no matter what end you chose in ME3, the Reapers win. The only difference is that you don't become a husk, working for them. So then it makes sense that BW would move the action away from the Milky Way which has been harvested by the Reapers.
Yes, many people here know of it. Opinions about it differ, but since you brought it up and I haven't commented on it before, here's mine:Radu Bors said:
The endings we got in the original ME3 release? Those were the true vision of BioWare for the series' ending. Nothing more, nothing less.
The indoctrination theory is mind canon and that is all. It is IMO a case of desperate grasping at straws by fans disappointed that their favorite series didn't end the way they would have liked to and/or is not as smartly written as they believe it is.
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As for humans, we've always been explorers.
I mean, how many haven't been killed because they saw the horizon and just went for it? And the end result was a thriving species that now owns the planet.
So let's own more.
I mean, how many haven't been killed because they saw the horizon and just went for it? And the end result was a thriving species that now owns the planet.
So let's own more.
From what I know of the mass effect universe and the reapers, this is how I'd explain why the reapers didn't go to other galaxies and didn't find a way to deal with the static discharge:
The reapers THINK they are the ultimate lifeform. They are perfection incarnate in their own minds. However, they were still created by a milky way faring race, with minds that apparently didn't think much about things outside of the milky way. The AI was first programmed/created to fix a purely milky way problem after all. So while they're an AI collective that can think for itself, it never occurred to them to go to other galaxies. And because they think they're oh so mighty and perfect they never thought to improve themselves either.
And to be honest, why would you go to other galaxies when your programming tells you you need to focus on the milky way and other galaxies have left you alone for millions of years? And why would you improve yourself when nothing could beat you for those same millions of years? They're not supposed to have the human mindset of 'because we can' after all.
On a side note, the reapers come every 50,000 years. Nothing in the galaxy specifically triggers them. They basically created a breadcrumb trail for sentient races to follow so they would develop along the same lines and at roughly the same speed every 'cycle'. And they put themselves on a timer to come back every 50,000 years to harvest all tech and intelligent races, before it gets to the point where synthetics start to take over the galaxy.
Which is why, while still shitty, the original plan for the ending would have been better. Even acceptable maybe. As in, the reapers were created to solve a different problem. Dark energy was threatening to rip everything apart in a few billion years. Only it couldn't by itself. So to solve this it started harvesting intelligent races, storing them as some kind of...biomatter super computer or something? With each reaper holding a different race. And that combined computing power would eventually be able to solve the problem. And humanity would have been the 'final piece of the puzzle' or some such. (Which would have made the end choice about picking between 'We will hopefully figure it out ourselves, the cycle ends now, but thanks for the warning.' or 'I'll let them harvest humanity so the dark energy problem is fixed after we die and the cycle will end as well.)
As for humanity going to Andromeda. Is that really so surprising? If humanity right now had the capabilities to go there, we would. Simply because we could and wanted to see what was there.
The reapers THINK they are the ultimate lifeform. They are perfection incarnate in their own minds. However, they were still created by a milky way faring race, with minds that apparently didn't think much about things outside of the milky way. The AI was first programmed/created to fix a purely milky way problem after all. So while they're an AI collective that can think for itself, it never occurred to them to go to other galaxies. And because they think they're oh so mighty and perfect they never thought to improve themselves either.
And to be honest, why would you go to other galaxies when your programming tells you you need to focus on the milky way and other galaxies have left you alone for millions of years? And why would you improve yourself when nothing could beat you for those same millions of years? They're not supposed to have the human mindset of 'because we can' after all.
On a side note, the reapers come every 50,000 years. Nothing in the galaxy specifically triggers them. They basically created a breadcrumb trail for sentient races to follow so they would develop along the same lines and at roughly the same speed every 'cycle'. And they put themselves on a timer to come back every 50,000 years to harvest all tech and intelligent races, before it gets to the point where synthetics start to take over the galaxy.
Which is why, while still shitty, the original plan for the ending would have been better. Even acceptable maybe. As in, the reapers were created to solve a different problem. Dark energy was threatening to rip everything apart in a few billion years. Only it couldn't by itself. So to solve this it started harvesting intelligent races, storing them as some kind of...biomatter super computer or something? With each reaper holding a different race. And that combined computing power would eventually be able to solve the problem. And humanity would have been the 'final piece of the puzzle' or some such. (Which would have made the end choice about picking between 'We will hopefully figure it out ourselves, the cycle ends now, but thanks for the warning.' or 'I'll let them harvest humanity so the dark energy problem is fixed after we die and the cycle will end as well.)
As for humanity going to Andromeda. Is that really so surprising? If humanity right now had the capabilities to go there, we would. Simply because we could and wanted to see what was there.