Why is marijuana illegal?

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Eggsnham said:
werewolfsfury said:
Eggsnham said:
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alik44 said:
its illegal yet cigarettes and alcohol kill alot more than marijuana does.
that's because it's not legal so less people smoke marijuana.
"and there's plenty of evidence suggesting that there are anti-carcinogens in marijuana smoke. Meaning that the shit could potentially help in the fight against cancer".
well okay then but do you have cancer? people who are given medical marijuana are smoking it because they in need of it. people without cancer just want to get high
It doesn't just help with cancer, it can help eating disorders, AIDS, joint pain and arthritis (since it's a powerful anti-inflammatory), certain heart conditions, trouble getting to sleep, and boredom.

Marijuana is suited as both a medical treatment, and a recreational drug, so why keep it from being one or both?

It's like alcohol (barring the potential poisoning, hangovers, damage to several vital organs, and severe impairment of motor skills) in that people would likely be doing it in their own homes, privately.
geeze you must be suffering having all of those problems and also I seriously doubt it would be legal JUST because it can help those things unless it's discovered that marijuana can cure ANY of those it'll still be illegal
 

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Because people can't just smoke the legal regular stuff, they have to lace it with cocaine or chemically alter it or add glass to it and so on.

If people just grew, bought and smoke regular weed, it would be legal. Hense the reason Black Mamba is legal and can be bought in place like Tattoo parlours and similarly, a different sort of White Widow.
 

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Whatever bullshit people spew, the plain fact is that marijuana is near impossible to tax.
Where do you get your logic from???? Of course they could tax it!
well if marijuana was legal wouldn't you just grow it at home for free?
 

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Matthew94 said:
werewolfsfury said:
Matthew94 said:
Batsamaritan said:
Whatever bullshit people spew, the plain fact is that marijuana is near impossible to tax.
Where do you get your logic from???? Of course they could tax it!
well if marijuana was legal wouldn't you just grow it at home for free?
Tomoatoes are legal, why not just grow them yourself???

You realise how silly your arguement it right??


1. People would still buy for convieniance, just like regular crops and goods.

2. Tax the seeds.


It doesn't take a genius to answer your post.
what about going to the dealer?
 

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ELD3RGoD said:
Because people can't just smoke the legal regular stuff, they have to lace it with cocaine or chemically alter it or add glass to it and so on.

If people just grew, bought and smoke regular weed, it would be legal. Hense the reason Black Mamba is legal and can be bought in place like Tattoo parlours and similarly, a different sort of White Widow.
But that wouldn't happen if it wasn't controlled by steet dealers and other criminals...
That problem only exists because it's illegal in the first place.

I don't know about the other drugs being laced on it, but the glass thing, wasn't that to make it heavier so that the dealers could sell it for more? That sure wouldn't happen if it was controlled like alcohol and cigarettes.
 

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werewolfsfury said:
what about going to the dealer?
I think dealers would die out. I for one don't want to deal with having to find a dealer and having to worry about their trustworthiness. I'm pretty sure that people would begin buying it from stores, and at the start the dealers would just lose a big load of their buyers, but in the end it would become totally unprofitable.

Of course there'd still be those hardcore people growing their own stuff, but I think in the end, not many people would be bothered to get their stuff from a dealer if they can just get it down at the corner.
 

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werewolfsfury said:
Matthew94 said:
Batsamaritan said:
Whatever bullshit people spew, the plain fact is that marijuana is near impossible to tax.
Where do you get your logic from???? Of course they could tax it!
well if marijuana was legal wouldn't you just grow it at home for free?
I know a whole lot of people that grow/dry their own tobacco and a lot more people who brew their own beer. The government still makes a killing off of those because they tax the sale of the drugs to people who can't (or just won't) go through that arduous process. They also tax the commercial ventures that make and sell the drugs quite a lot, mind you.

Now, production of your own distilled liquor is illegal for a few reasons, but the government still taxes both the making and the selling.

Similarly, the state or federal government could tax the growing, selling, buying, and licensing of cannabis while putting similar restrictions on growing it as they already have on distilling your own moonshine.

Sure, there would still be a lot of "freebooters," but there would still be a bunch of tax revenues.
 

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Its because the effects of weed last for about 24 hours or more so thats a problem.
 

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There is a pot substitute that is legal and not as dangerous. I, myself, do not smoke it, but I know a few people who do. They say it's like a dream while on it.
 

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werewolfsfury said:
Eggsnham said:
werewolfsfury said:
Eggsnham said:
werewolfsfury said:
alik44 said:
its illegal yet cigarettes and alcohol kill alot more than marijuana does.
that's because it's not legal so less people smoke marijuana.
"and there's plenty of evidence suggesting that there are anti-carcinogens in marijuana smoke. Meaning that the shit could potentially help in the fight against cancer".
well okay then but do you have cancer? people who are given medical marijuana are smoking it because they in need of it. people without cancer just want to get high
It doesn't just help with cancer, it can help eating disorders, AIDS, joint pain and arthritis (since it's a powerful anti-inflammatory), certain heart conditions, trouble getting to sleep, and boredom.

Marijuana is suited as both a medical treatment, and a recreational drug, so why keep it from being one or both?

It's like alcohol (barring the potential poisoning, hangovers, damage to several vital organs, and severe impairment of motor skills) in that people would likely be doing it in their own homes, privately.
geeze you must be suffering having all of those problems and also I seriously doubt it would be legal JUST because it can help those things unless it's discovered that marijuana can cure ANY of those it'll still be illegal
Weed helps with a lot of things, but people are always going to want to use it for recreational reasons.

No, I don't have any of the problems listed above, but I, like all people, get stressed. And when I get stressed, there are hobbies, and getting high with friends to help reduce stress levels.

That said, there are a many drugs out there which have specific medical purposes, and are otherwise deadly if taken out of moderation. For instance, Adderal or Ritalin. Both drugs are legal to use if you have a prescription, and can cause some pretty nasty things to happen if you take too much, which a lot of kids I used to know did a lot.

I dunno about you, but I'd much rather have someone I know smoking a bowl than poppin' a few Ritalin.

Ramble mode off.
 

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Elfgore said:
Its because the effects of weed last for about 24 hours or more so thats a problem.
Where do people get this complete misinformation? I mean how sheltered can you be? Highs from weed barely last more than a few hours, hell inebriation from alcohol last waaaay longer.
 

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Harlief said:
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Because it makes people stupid. Sure they feel like they're hella smart when high, but it's only because ordinary phenomena seem like epiphanies to pot-heads.
Actually, it enhances that creative and artistic parts of your brain. I'm no scientist, but wouldn't that be considered making you smarter? I can't draw worth shit, but while under the influence in a safe environment at my own home, I made some pretty amazing pieces of art.
Nope, it only makes you think you're better. You draw better when you're relaxed and you let go of your inhibitions, am I right? You don't need drugs to do that, try breathing and self confidence. Even better, they're free and will benefit every aspect of your life.
No, actually that's what weed does.

[sub]Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain's neurons and interfering with normal communication between the neurons. These nerves respond by altering their initial behavior. For example, if a nerve is suppose to assist one in retrieving short-term memory, cannabinoids receptors make them do the opposite. [/sub]

People don't smoke it because it makes them stupid, hard as that is to believe. There actually is a high.
 

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Littlee300 said:
I wish I remember the name of a show that told the history of marijuana... Anyways, someone made commercials showing that weed made people aggressive. (irony) And test showed that weed kill brain cells because stupid scientist would suffocate primates in the process of the test.
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Because the government can't find a way to tax it. If we could tax weed, trust me, we'd sell that shit everywhere. Same thing with prostitution. If Uncle Same could find a way to tax pussy, it would be legal.

However, we found a way to tax cigarettes, which kill you, and beer, which has been the cause of more deaths per year due to drunk driving, domestic violence, etc. than weed ever has.

Where is your logic coming from? How does it make sense to be able to tax cigarettes but not weed..
Because of corporation... Period, tobacco companies are BIG easily taxable on a large scale, and thus highly proffitable, alcohol has been produced by families and companies in an established sense for as long as history has existed... Marajuana has never had that kind of established backing, therefor it would require expensive and bothersome retooling for regulation of production, quality testing and assurance, and taxation of an industry that doesn't really EXIST as a unified body yet... IF there had been marketing campains and corporate entities behind it before prohibition was enacted, it would have come back with booze... Since it was NEVER a point of proffit for the governmental bodies through regulated taxation before, and that it would cost them money to allow for that, they figure there's no real good reason to allow anyone to make money off of it if they can't so it's illegal... to an extent... where I live possession is fine, unless you have enough to reasonably sell to someone, or are smoking it in a place where someone's gonna get bothered by it... but then again where i live it's also illegal to smoke cigarettes in a wide variety of public places... so that doesn't really bother anyone... also there are ways to get a card that allows you to buy and possess larger quantities of it for your own medical use... you just hafta know the right doctor... :p
 

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RickRoll said:
Harlief said:
JoesshittyOs said:
Harlief said:
Because it makes people stupid. Sure they feel like they're hella smart when high, but it's only because ordinary phenomena seem like epiphanies to pot-heads.
Actually, it enhances that creative and artistic parts of your brain. I'm no scientist, but wouldn't that be considered making you smarter? I can't draw worth shit, but while under the influence in a safe environment at my own home, I made some pretty amazing pieces of art.
Nope, it only makes you think you're better. You draw better when you're relaxed and you let go of your inhibitions, am I right? You don't need drugs to do that, try breathing and self confidence. Even better, they're free and will benefit every aspect of your life.
Clearly Harlief has never smoked weed.
Really? Based on what evidence? I have actually, all that happened on the several occasions when I did was that I became irrational and paranoid and started believing things that on reflection were based on great leaps in logic. Like I said, it makes you feel smart but it actually makes you retarded.

Case in point: this chump...
JoesshittyOs said:
Harlief said:
JoesshittyOs said:
Harlief said:
Because it makes people stupid. Sure they feel like they're hella smart when high, but it's only because ordinary phenomena seem like epiphanies to pot-heads.
Actually, it enhances that creative and artistic parts of your brain. I'm no scientist, but wouldn't that be considered making you smarter? I can't draw worth shit, but while under the influence in a safe environment at my own home, I made some pretty amazing pieces of art.
Nope, it only makes you think you're better. You draw better when you're relaxed and you let go of your inhibitions, am I right? You don't need drugs to do that, try breathing and self confidence. Even better, they're free and will benefit every aspect of your life.
No, actually that's what weed does.

[sub]Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain's neurons and interfering with normal communication between the neurons. These nerves respond by altering their initial behavior. For example, if a nerve is suppose to assist one in retrieving short-term memory, cannabinoids receptors make them do the opposite. [/sub]

People don't smoke it because it makes them stupid, hard as that is to believe. There actually is a high.
In his post he displays faulty reasoning implying that only through smoking pot can one attain clarity of mind. This ladies and gentlemen is the very definition of irony.
as Saruman once said to Gandalf: "Your love of the Halfling's leaf has clearly slowed your mind."

[Edit] Actually, reading it again, I'm not sure what point he's trying to make.