Make it legal, tax it. Economic problems solvednklshaz said:One more thing I forgot to mention: I'm sure we'd ban cigarettes and alcohol if we could afford to, but by the time we figured out how bad they could be, they had become an integral part of our economy, and we literally couldn't financially afford to ban them. Keeping marijuana illegal isn't so much about fairness, it's more like keeping more things like cigarettes and alcohol (i.e. harmful but necessary) from making their way into standard economy and practice. I'm personally in favor of keeping it illegal. I just don't see why people want it so bad.
Quite presumptuous, aren't we? Actually, if you want to know the truth, I drive better when I'm high, just because I know that I'm high, and that makes any tickets I receive doubly dangerous. And since you have been drunk, you would know that there is no possible way this coherent of thought could be formed under a heavy influence of alcohol.spartan231490 said:I've been drunk, but not high. People who are drunk think they can drive safely too, that's why they do it, but that doesn't make them right. Smoking even a single joint compromises judgement and reflexes. Mind if I ask where you live? If it's near me I might want to move. Maybe buy a 5 point safety harness for my truck. At least that will protect me, if not you, or the innocent people who choose to walk on the roads when you're driving high.TheJesus89 said:snip
Have you ever been drunk or high?spartan231490 said:snip
There is such a massive difference between the two. Also, There is a difference between smoking a joint and then driving over smoking for 8 hours straight then driving. I'm talking about the former over the later.
And believe me, I'd do the later over driving even tipsy any day.
This and since jazz musicians (who were mostly black) liked using it it gives a reason to lock them up and stop going after our PRECIOUS WHITE DAUGHTERS./sarcasmPrincess Rose said:Marijuana is illegal because cotton manufactures back in the 1800s (or was it early 1900s?) wanted to get rid of the hemp industry so they'd have a monopoly on rope.alik44 said:its illegal yet cigarettes and alcohol kill alot more than marijuana does.
Seriously, that is the reason why Marijuana was made illegal. It had nothing to do with it being a drug - it had everything to do with hemp vs cotton.
Yes, I think you're right - early 1900s. But it ALSO had a lot to do with the cotton industry.viranimus said:Because it was a knee jerk reaction in the US during the prohibition of alcohol era. It was made illegal around the same time. However it was much less popular than alcohol so it was never relegalized.
Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)novixz said:I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.Zabriskie Point said:None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?novixz said:I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.Zabriskie Point said:That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.novixz said:To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."Zabriskie Point said:You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?novixz said:If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.
Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.
1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.
That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.Zabriskie Point said:Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)novixz said:I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.Zabriskie Point said:None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?novixz said:I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.Zabriskie Point said:That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.novixz said:Zabriskie Point said:You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?novixz said:If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.
Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.
To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."
1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.
lol It does seem like I'm "part" of this fight, doesn't it? Truthfully, I've never even touched the stuff, so I have no stake in it either. I just get pissed of by the ethical discrepancies and hypocrisy behind these non-issues.I'm just an opponent of Dipshit Politics.nklshaz said:Like I said, I don't feel too strongly either way, so good luck with your cause. Hopefully these differences haven't brought about any hard feelings.
Wow, you're like the first person to think about this. You're going to revolutionize the world.alik44 said:its illegal yet cigarettes and alcohol kill alot more than marijuana does.
Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?novixz said:That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.Zabriskie Point said:Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)novixz said:I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.Zabriskie Point said:None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?novixz said:I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.Zabriskie Point said:That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.novixz said:Zabriskie Point said:You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?novixz said:If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.
Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.
To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."
1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.
You sir are stereotyping and you are wrong.novixz said:If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.
Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.
its better for you than Alcohol. And that is very legalbanksy122 said:Because it is bad for you. Yeah, we could make it legal, then in 20 years when people realize it is horrible for you, we won't be able to make it illegal. Look at the prohibition. Making something that is popular illegal is impossible. Hence, keeping it illegal is the best option. Since when does having something illegal stop people doing it anyway.>.>
Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.Zabriskie Point said:Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?novixz said:That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.Zabriskie Point said:Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)novixz said:I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.Zabriskie Point said:None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?novixz said:I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.Zabriskie Point said:That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.novixz said:Zabriskie Point said:You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?novixz said:If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.
Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.
To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."
1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.
You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.novixz said:Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.Zabriskie Point said:Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?novixz said:That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.Zabriskie Point said:Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)novixz said:I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.Zabriskie Point said:None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?novixz said:I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.Zabriskie Point said:That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.novixz said:Zabriskie Point said:You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?novixz said:If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.
Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.
To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."
1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.
Then what. the. fuck. are you arguing about!?novixz said:Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.Zabriskie Point said:Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?novixz said:That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.Zabriskie Point said:Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)novixz said:I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.Zabriskie Point said:None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?novixz said:I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.Zabriskie Point said:That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.novixz said:Zabriskie Point said:You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?novixz said:If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.
Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.
To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."
1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.
There isn't a single legitimate argument in that video. And from your original post, it seems the only thing you actually know about marijuana and marijuana prohibition is what was in that video.novixz said:I think this sums up my feelings.