Why is marijuana illegal?

[novixz]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

 

[Chronologger]

But why would people pay so much for a drug that causes a hallucination that they probably won't even be able to remember?

This seriously discredits your position in the argument as you obviously don't even realize that Marijuana isn't a hallucinogen, but a narcotic. It doesn't make you go "WOAAAAAH DUDE I CAN SEE RAINBOWS AND UNICORNS" at all, and by simply stating that it does is evidence enough that you simply do not belong in this argument.

Marijuana alters your attitude more than anything, but it also affects other senses (hearing and taste mostly, with a VERY positive affect). More often than not it will make you more receptive to humor, not because you simply find ANYTHING funny, but sometimes when I'm stoned and watch something that I may have seen before I'll catch something that I have never noticed before, it could be something someone said in the background, or a joke that your mind was perhaps a bit too "up-tight" or preoccupied to really understand the humor behind it when watching it sober. It does all this at the same time, and ultimately, more than anything, it makes you relax.

That's why the unemployed or depressed will sometimes turn to marijuana, because it simply helps them chill the fuck out and put their problems aside for a short while. Many people I know suffer from depression as I live in a relatively poor area, but when they're smoking, you'd never notice it, say what you want, but from observing these people over the last few years it is clear to me hat they definitely have lightened up and are now either reintegrated into society or on their way. That is why people want it so bad, if you were to completely remove it from these areas, you're making everyone constantly acknowledge that they are in fact poor and depressed.


EDIT: inb4 "depression isn't a real condition"

 

[Zabriskie Point]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

I think you should be kept away from the general public.

 

[spartan231490]

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Have you ever been drunk or high?

There is such a massive difference between the two. Also, There is a difference between smoking a joint and then driving over smoking for 8 hours straight then driving. I'm talking about the former over the later.

And believe me, I'd do the later over driving even tipsy any day.

I've been drunk, but not high. People who are drunk think they can drive safely too, that's why they do it, but that doesn't make them right. Smoking even a single joint compromises judgement and reflexes. Mind if I ask where you live? If it's near me I might want to move. Maybe buy a 5 point safety harness for my truck. At least that will protect me, if not you, or the innocent people who choose to walk on the roads when you're driving high.

Quite presumptuous, aren't we? Actually, if you want to know the truth, I drive better when I'm high, just because I know that I'm high, and that makes any tickets I receive doubly dangerous. And since you have been drunk, you would know that there is no possible way this coherent of thought could be formed under a heavy influence of alcohol.

Why don't you try being high to see what it's like? Maybe then you would see that you're being an incredibly judgmental ass.

Oh wait a second, I have studies done by the U.S. Department of Transportation that back up my statements? Really?

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/driving/driving.htm

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/driving/dot78_1c.htm

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/driving/dot78_1d.htm


Well, it looks like you're an ass AND wrong. Huh. I guess today isn't your day.

There are a lot of drunks that claim they drive better when they're drunk. The judgement of someone in a drug-impaired state cannot be trusted. Most especially self-judgement.

Why don't I try being high? because I don't need to in order to validate my opinion. The evidence seems to be on my side, and I have no need to damage my lungs in order to see the effects of a drug especially when, as I said, self-judgement when in a drug-impaired state is incredibly suspect. I also have no desire to use it recreationally because I have no desire to be happy only because of a drug. I have friends, and video games, and movies, and all manner of completely, guaranteed, 100% non-harmful, and non-impairing ways to occupy my time.

I would like to point out that a study with only 23 subjects is not reliable, and the second and third studies only contained 16 subjects. Worse, the most important test, the city driving test, was never conducted with the higher doses of THC. Furthermore, here are some quotes from the study you posted:

"Figure 1 demonstrates that marijuana impairs driving performance as measured by an increase in lateral position variability: all three THC doses significantly affected sdlp relative to placebo" In other words. The subjects who smoked the actual weed weaved all over the road significantly more than the ones who smoked the placebo. the amount of weave was comparable to a BAC of .03-.07, which is generally criminal, and associated with about 1-3 beers for one average adult male. funny since the subjects smoked 1-3 joints.

"Road-tracking performance in the standard test was impaired in a dose- related manner by THC and confirmed the results obtained in the previous closed highway study"

"The reaction time of the subjects to changes in the preceding vehicle's speed increased following THC treatment, relative to placebo."

Hmm, I don't think I'm wrong. The study was unreliable and it still says I'm right in 2 out of 3 situations, those 2 being the more reliable 2.

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

Car Crash Stats: There were nearly 6,420,000 auto accidents in the United States in 2005. The financial cost of these crashes is more than 230 Billion dollars. 2.9 million people were injured and 42,636 people killed. About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States -- one death every 13 minutes.

Maybe we should illegalize cars. The dangers of smoking are well known, people are entitled to make their own choices, even stupid ones.

 

[FC Groningen]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

You're aware that people died because of an overdose of caffeine as well right?

 

[Zabriskie Point]

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Have you ever been drunk or high?

There is such a massive difference between the two. Also, There is a difference between smoking a joint and then driving over smoking for 8 hours straight then driving. I'm talking about the former over the later.

And believe me, I'd do the later over driving even tipsy any day.

I've been drunk, but not high. People who are drunk think they can drive safely too, that's why they do it, but that doesn't make them right. Smoking even a single joint compromises judgement and reflexes. Mind if I ask where you live? If it's near me I might want to move. Maybe buy a 5 point safety harness for my truck. At least that will protect me, if not you, or the innocent people who choose to walk on the roads when you're driving high.

Quite presumptuous, aren't we? Actually, if you want to know the truth, I drive better when I'm high, just because I know that I'm high, and that makes any tickets I receive doubly dangerous. And since you have been drunk, you would know that there is no possible way this coherent of thought could be formed under a heavy influence of alcohol.

Why don't you try being high to see what it's like? Maybe then you would see that you're being an incredibly judgmental ass.

Oh wait a second, I have studies done by the U.S. Department of Transportation that back up my statements? Really?

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/driving/driving.htm

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/driving/dot78_1c.htm

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/driving/dot78_1d.htm


Well, it looks like you're an ass AND wrong. Huh. I guess today isn't your day.

There are a lot of drunks that claim they drive better when they're drunk. The judgement of someone in a drug-impaired state cannot be trusted. Most especially self-judgement.

Why don't I try being high? because I don't need to in order to validate my opinion. The evidence seems to be on my side, and I have no need to damage my lungs in order to see the effects of a drug especially when, as I said, self-judgement when in a drug-impaired state is incredibly suspect. I also have no desire to use it recreationally because I have no desire to be happy only because of a drug. I have friends, and video games, and movies, and all manner of completely, guaranteed, 100% non-harmful, and non-impairing ways to occupy my time.

I would like to point out that a study with only 23 subjects is not reliable, and the second and third studies only contained 16 subjects. Worse, the most important test, the city driving test, was never conducted with the higher doses of THC. Furthermore, here are some quotes from the study you posted:

"Figure 1 demonstrates that marijuana impairs driving performance as measured by an increase in lateral position variability: all three THC doses significantly affected sdlp relative to placebo" In other words. The subjects who smoked the actual weed weaved all over the road significantly more than the ones who smoked the placebo. the amount of weave was comparable to a BAC of .03-.07, which is generally criminal, and associated with about 1-3 beers for one average adult male. funny since the subjects smoked 1-3 joints.

"Road-tracking performance in the standard test was impaired in a dose- related manner by THC and confirmed the results obtained in the previous closed highway study"

"The reaction time of the subjects to changes in the preceding vehicle's speed increased following THC treatment, relative to placebo."

Hmm, I don't think I'm wrong. The study was unreliable and it still says I'm right in 2 out of 3 situations, those 2 being the more reliable 2.

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

Car Crash Stats: There were nearly 6,420,000 auto accidents in the United States in 2005. The financial cost of these crashes is more than 230 Billion dollars. 2.9 million people were injured and 42,636 people killed. About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States -- one death every 13 minutes.

Maybe we should illegalize cars. The dangers of smoking are well known, people are entitled to make their own choices, even stupid ones.

I used my statistic to show that his statistic was irrelevant. I don't at all think that cigarettes should be illegal, I think people are entitled to make their own choices, just as you said.

 

[novixz]

I think this sums up my feelings.

There isn't a single legitimate argument in that video. And from your original post, it seems the only thing you actually know about marijuana and marijuana prohibition is what was in that video.

Trust me, no it's fucking not. I have to deal with people who smoke pot on a regular basis, some are my what I would reservedly call friends. I know I'm not going to change your stoned ass from doing it, but I don't care, you want to spend you're time watching discovery channel eating a bag of Doritos and not doing anything productive, fine. Also alcohol is legal because people don't usually drink until a certain time where the least amount of people would be hurt.

 

[novixz]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

You're aware that people died because of an overdose of caffeine as well right?

Yeah I doubt people are going to drink that much caffeine in one sitting. Yep, I just sit down, have a cup of coffee nearly implode from all the damn caffeine I'm taking in.

 

[Zabriskie Point]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

I think you should be kept away from the general public.

Okay now you're just being a fucking troll. I'm friends with this one kid, and you are so god damn luck I don't have the to beat you down. Not trying to sound threatening or anything it's just that he says "You're a freebie" or some other annoying shit on a daily basis. Like I am so serious if I could reach my hand through the screen and slap you right fucking now I would. It's nothing against you I've just had to hear that phrase so many damn times.

Alcohol is legal because most people use it at a certain time of the day? Seriously man, how old are you? Twelve?

Also, cool overreaction. It's called a joke, I'm not "trolling".

 

[novixz]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

I think you should be kept away from the general public.

Okay now you're just being a fucking troll. I'm friends with this one kid, and you are so god damn luck I don't have the to beat you down. Not trying to sound threatening or anything it's just that he says "You're a freebie" or some other annoying shit on a daily basis. Like I am so serious if I could reach my hand through the screen and slap you right fucking now I would. It's nothing against you I've just had to hear that phrase so many damn times.

Alcohol is legal because most people use it at a certain time of the day? Seriously man, how old are you? Twelve?

Also, cool overreaction. It's called a joke, I'm not "trolling".

Yeah, I know it sounds stupid but that's part of the reason.

Sorry, I've just heard that phrase day in and day out. Put it this way, I hear that phrase about as much time as I see the sky, but the sky isn't fucking annoying.

 

[Zabriskie Point]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

I think you should be kept away from the general public.

Okay now you're just being a fucking troll. I'm friends with this one kid, and you are so god damn luck I don't have the to beat you down. Not trying to sound threatening or anything it's just that he says "You're a freebie" or some other annoying shit on a daily basis. Like I am so serious if I could reach my hand through the screen and slap you right fucking now I would. It's nothing against you I've just had to hear that phrase so many damn times.

Alcohol is legal because most people use it at a certain time of the day? Seriously man, how old are you? Twelve?

Also, cool overreaction. It's called a joke, I'm not "trolling".

Yeah, I know it sounds stupid but that's part of the reason.

Sorry, I've just heard that phrase day in and day out. Put it this way, I hear that phrase about as much time as I see the sky, but the sky isn't fucking annoying.

There's probably a reason why you hear it so often.

 

[novixz]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

I think you should be kept away from the general public.

Okay now you're just being a fucking troll. I'm friends with this one kid, and you are so god damn luck I don't have the to beat you down. Not trying to sound threatening or anything it's just that he says "You're a freebie" or some other annoying shit on a daily basis. Like I am so serious if I could reach my hand through the screen and slap you right fucking now I would. It's nothing against you I've just had to hear that phrase so many damn times.

Alcohol is legal because most people use it at a certain time of the day? Seriously man, how old are you? Twelve?

Also, cool overreaction. It's called a joke, I'm not "trolling".

Yeah, I know it sounds stupid but that's part of the reason.

Sorry, I've just heard that phrase day in and day out. Put it this way, I hear that phrase about as much time as I see the sky, but the sky isn't fucking annoying.

There's probably a reason why you hear it so often.

Because my friends a fucking troll that's why.

 

[Chronologger]

Okay now you're just being a fucking troll. I'm friends with this one kid, and you are so god damn luck I don't have the to beat you down. Not trying to sound threatening or anything it's just that he says "You're a freebie" or some other annoying shit on a daily basis. Like I am so serious if I could reach my hand through the screen and slap you right fucking now I would. It's nothing against you I've just had to hear that phrase so many damn times.

How does that have ANYTHING to do with this argument?

Let me guess, that guy smokes pot right? Well, let me teach you about something called subjectivity, it means that 1 bad example of something/someone does not, and SHOULD not ultimately discredit the substance he is using at the time just because he is using a few mannerisms that don't sit well with you. He is one person out of the estimated 1.2 billion pot smokers around the globe and you're projecting him onto every other smoker so much that you feel like beating the guy you're replying to because he is in favor of pot.

You need to get out more, and realize the world is bigger than your town.

 

[StonedMonkey]

The fact that it directly kills brain cells is the main reason. And legalizing it would increase the risk of people driving while hallucinating. While the effects may not be perceived as being "as bad" as cigarettes or alcohol, it still is bad for you, and we're probably better off without it.

EDIT: Before you reply, please read my other posts on this thread. Thank you

I want some of whatever YOU'RE smoking because weed most definitely doesn't make you hallucinate.

 

[TheJesus89]

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*ahem*

"The foregoing comparisons might be misleading. THC's effects differ qualitatively from many other drugs, especially alcohol. For example, subjects drive faster after drinking alcohol and slower after smoking marijuana (Hansteen et al., 1976/ Casswell, 1979; Peck et al., 1986; Smiley et al., 1987).. Moreover, the simulator study by Ellingstad et al. (1973) showed that subjects under the influence of marijuana were less likely to engage in overtaking maneuvers, whereas those under the influence of alcohol showed the opposite tendency. Very importantly, our city driving study showed that drivers who drank alcohol over-estimated their performance quality whereas those who smoked marijuana under-estimated it. Perhaps as a consequence, the former invested no special effort for accomplishing the task whereas the latter did, and successfully. This evidence strongly suggests that alcohol encourages risky driving whereas THC encourages greater caution, at least in experiments. Another way THC seems to differ qualitatively from many other drugs is that the former users seem better able to compensate for its adverse effects while driving under the influence. Weil et al. (1968) were among the earliest authors who mentioned the possibility that marijuana users can actively suppress the drug's adverse effects. They presumed that THC's effects were confined to higher cortical functions without any general stimulatory or depressive effect on lower brain centers. According to them, the relative absence of neurological, as opposed to psychiatric, symptoms in marijuana intoxication suggests this possibility. More recently, Moskowitz (1985) concluded that the variety of impairments found after marijuana smoking could not be explained by decrements in sensory or motor functions which led him to hypothesize that some important central cognitive process is impaired by THC, without saying what it is. Identification of THC's site of action would greatly enhance our understanding of the drug's psychopharmacological effects."


Basically, the point I'm trying to make is that I can drive fine when I am high. No worse then someone after drinking or while talking on their cell phone. I may have over-exaggerated when I said I drive better, but I do not drive noticeably worse.

Also, you may notice that 300 kg/g of THC in the blood is much more then what is in the blood after smoking 1 joint. As I said, I only drive after smoking as much as a joint (or whatever the pipe/bong equivalent is). Therefore, once I again, I am right. This statement here pretty much sums that up:

"* Marijuana smoking impairs fundamental road tracking ability with the degree if impairment increasing as a function of the consumed THC dose."


Oh, and:

the amount of weave was comparable to a BAC of .03-.07, which is generally criminal

A criminal level BAC is .08. So no, having a BAC of .03-.07 is not generally criminal. In fact it is not only general legal, it's actual unanimously legal (unless counting for prior DUI charges or similar charges).

http://alcoholcontrols.com/lebaclibyst.html

The fact that you don't know the legal limit of alcohol shows your ignorance of drug consumption, and also shows me that you've probably never been drunk. You may have drank before, but been drunk? I doubt it.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

OT: Now that I've kinda gotten those points out of the way, believe it or not, I am actually a supporter of weed. Hell, I'm about to buy some tomorrow (legally of course, cough cough).I just like to point out the flaws in some of these peoples arguments so that they stay away from them and search for more logical ones.

Like I said above, I have a dad who is probably going to one of the guys put in charge of legalizing it in the US, and legalization has made some headway these past few years. It's going to happen. Let's just try to keep some liberals in office.

sorry but i am a but sceptical of some person on the interet saying his dad is knows some people and it is gonna happen. not that i don't want to believe you or anything i would very much like it to be legal. i have tried both pot and alcohol and would say i enjoy pot alot more, and would much rather have it be legal.

as far as i can tell the only reason it is illegal is because some political shit went down in the 30's and it takes a long time to change laws like that

As unbelievable as it most likely sounds, I don't want to risk giving his name out to the open public because he was a pretty predominant figure in the DEA, whose done some pretty incredible damage to the Cartel, and there are people who would very much like to see him dead.

Don't get me wrong, he hates the shit and really doesn't want it to be legal, but unless some study comes out along the lines of it making you kill babies, it's gonna happen.

I want it to be legal too. Hell, I'm gonna smoke some tonight with a new pipe I just bought (while my dad is far far away on a business trip).

Yes, those are the reasons why it became illegal, but not the reasons why it stayed illegal.

 

[novixz]

Okay now you're just being a fucking troll. I'm friends with this one kid, and you are so god damn luck I don't have the to beat you down. Not trying to sound threatening or anything it's just that he says "You're a freebie" or some other annoying shit on a daily basis. Like I am so serious if I could reach my hand through the screen and slap you right fucking now I would. It's nothing against you I've just had to hear that phrase so many damn times.

How does that have ANYTHING to do with this argument?

Let me guess, that guy smokes pot right? Well, let me teach you about something called subjectivity, it means that 1 bad example of something/someone does not, and SHOULD not ultimately discredit the substance he is using at the time just because he is using a few mannerisms that don't sit well with you. He is one person out of the estimated 1.2 billion pot smokers around the globe ad you're projecting him onto every other smoker so much that you feel like beating the guy you're replying to because he is in favor of pot.

You need to get out more, and realize the world is bigger than your town.

No, not because he smokes pot, if I did that I would have beaten down most of my school. I'm just venting because I hear the phrase "You're a 'X'" I don't give a shit he smokes pot. Hell smoke you'r damn brains out I don't care. Like him saying that has just made me 12 times more stressed. And you bitching about it has just added to that so thank you for ruining what was a good day.

 

[FC Groningen]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

You're aware that people died because of an overdose of caffeine as well right?

Yeah I doubt people are going to drink that much caffeine in one sitting. Yep, I just sit down, have a cup of coffee nearly implode from all the damn caffeine I'm taking in.

Its mostly not the standard cup of coffee. Its people chugging down cans of energy drink like Red bull that is causing the problems.

 

[Navvan]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

I think you should be kept away from the general public.

Okay now you're just being a fucking troll. I'm friends with this one kid, and you are so god damn luck I don't have the to beat you down. Not trying to sound threatening or anything it's just that he says "You're a freebie" or some other annoying shit on a daily basis. Like I am so serious if I could reach my hand through the screen and slap you right fucking now I would. It's nothing against you I've just had to hear that phrase so many damn times.

Alcohol is legal because most people use it at a certain time of the day? Seriously man, how old are you? Twelve?

Also, cool overreaction. It's called a joke, I'm not "trolling".

Yeah, I know it sounds stupid but that's part of the reason.

Sorry, I've just heard that phrase day in and day out. Put it this way, I hear that phrase about as much time as I see the sky, but the sky isn't fucking annoying.

As someone else who has to put up smokers on a daily basis you have my sympathy. Anytime I hear something along the lines of "You need to take a hit for X reason" is about the moment I get the rare urge to punch someone in the face. To this day I can't stand the smell of marijuana smoke.

That said you are going about your position the wrong way. You should simply give the statement they can't argue with, That you have the right not to be around someone who smokes, and that you believe it is a poor choice. Instead you are arguing irrelevant tangents and giving fuel to justify their habit by using flawed reasoning they can readily counter.

 

[novixz]

If you smoke pot you're a loser who can't take life and needs to smoke a blunt just to feel good because you'r life is fucking pathetic and I hope that you go broke and die in the streets cold and lonely. I don't care if you have straight A's in school, and cured AIDS, you smoke pot you just can't take life for what it is. "Oh it is good clothing." Yeah, I don't fucking care, it's not like there are 100's of different materials to make clothes out of. "It relieves stress." Seriously, get over yourself. We all had hard day, we all feel pain, get over it. It's life, life sucks.

Cigarettes and Alcohol: Yeah they do more damage maybe, but that doesn't make them right. Tobacco was one of America's leading exports during it's early founding, so maybe it's to keep the tradition. Alcohol is legal because when you're the legal drinking age, you should be able to make you're own decisions.

You can make your own decisions, as long as that decision isn't using marijuana, right? You see the flaw in that logic?

To be honest I was just stalling so I could be on the computer and not take a shower. But alcohol is legal because people know how to handle their booze, they know when to get help, mostly. Weed it's just "blaze up whenever, you can't OD on it and you can't get poising."

That's the most biased argument I've ever heard.

1. You CAN'T overdose on marijuana. It's physically impossible.
2. Most alcoholics will deny that they're alcoholics all day.

I said you can't OD on weed, I was poking fun at the people who use that for an excuse. Yeah but they'll have to pay for their addiction also, just like with weed, cigarettes. Just because something is legal doesn't automatically make it right. Also alchohol is legal because it's fun for parties but there are a few holes in that theory.

None of what you're saying is making any sense to me. Alcohol is legal because it's fun for parties? Do you actually believe this, or are you just fucking with me?

I'm fucking with you. The main point is, you shouldn't do any of it, also when you say cigarette are more dangerous, think about this: weed has 5 times the amount of tar than a cigarette. So there's that.

Well I have yet to say that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes, but if we're throwing statistics around, 443,000 deaths every year are directly attributed to cigarettes. There has not been a single death directly attributed to marijuana. (Not including stupid people doing stupid things while high)

That's because people aren't out smoking 2 packs of blunts a day.

Honestly you're getting kind of annoying. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You just said that marijuana had 5 times the tar in a cigarette, so shouldn't more people be dying from it?

Yeah, but that's because people don't smoke weed every-damn-day like cigarette users.

You're spewing ignorance again. Many, many people smoke marijuana on a daily basis. I know several of these people.

Look, I'm not saying that pot should be illegal, I see it as a way to fix the economy in a way. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE BRING THIS UP IN A QUOTE AND TRY AND USE THIS AGAINST ME SO I HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TO YOUR DUMB ASS! The point is, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, all bad for you. You want to shoot heroin, go ahead, I don't fucking care. I know I get off topic here and most of you pot heads can't keep up so I'm going to keep this simple: I don't fucking care if you do pot, I don't like, and you're not going to change that fact. Yes it's stupid that alcohol and cigarettes when pot causes less accidents, but any substance that causes any type of accident should be kept away from the general public.

You're aware that people died because of an overdose of caffeine as well right?

Yeah I doubt people are going to drink that much caffeine in one sitting. Yep, I just sit down, have a cup of coffee nearly implode from all the damn caffeine I'm taking in.

Its mostly not the standard cup of coffee. Its people chugging down cans of energy drink like Red bull that is causing the problems.

Yeah, well you know what? If you kill yourself chugging monsters or any other energy drink you should get now sympathy from the public.