No PC gamer has had to upgrade their PC in 5 years either. And you might as well use the 5 year ago prices on LCD TV's consoles and PCs. Not to mention most console gamers are on their 2nd or 3rd console by now.mb16 said:
Why is Microsoft not giving Xbox Live free?
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Surely it's because they don't want me wasting my precious hours on this planet playing multiplayer games with mean spirited strangers. They have my best interests in mind. I bought a PS3 specifically to play online games for free, but I never use it for that either. Single player experiences are the only ones that seem worth my time. Even if I get all the way through a game and master its subtleties and get ready to compete, I'm already bored of the game and ready to move on. There are exceptions, but I just don't buy games with short campaigns and alleged multiplayer bonuses. I can barely keep up with the games I like anyways.
Maybe I've missed it because I haven't bought the right games, but besides the DLC, what part of games isn't being included when you buy it? Could I get a specific example of HAVING to own a Live account in order play a game? I've never had that issue and I'm not able to use Live during the summer when I'm not at collegeRamirezDoEverything said:
Would you offer something for free when you could get a billion dollars per year by selling it?
($50/year x about 20 million annual subscribers = 1 billion $$$)
I highly doubt that they have lost too many customers to Sony due to the cost of Live...
($50/year x about 20 million annual subscribers = 1 billion $$$)
I highly doubt that they have lost too many customers to Sony due to the cost of Live...
Kevon Huggins said:
Excuse me? Multiplayer is in no way better. Also, the social experience is shit due to the fact that 50% of the community is comprised of pre-teen boys screaming "******," among other things.
The PSN is like omegle, occasional trolls, but an overall clean and a decent experience. Xbox Live is like Chatroulette, you may be more "social", but half of the time you stare at some asshole's dick.
Answer to OP: Because they [Microsoft] can, and because people are too dumb to say "To hell with this shit."
Ain't mad atcha. Some of us are cozy with being plundered, some of us are not. It's when people qualify it that I start to raise a stink. If MS had a competitor (no, not PSN, I mean on their own system) offering a similar service for free, how long do you think it'd be before they abandon their subscription model? That's the thing about monopolies.jakefongloo said:
We're cool, though. Don't sweat it.
I honestly don't mind having to pay for Xbox Live. It's only £39.99, which is like, just over 1p a day, which when you think about it really isn't that much, also I usually ask for it as a christmas present each year, so I don't have to fork out myself for it.
Not wrong, just hyperbole. Even a sony fan like yourself has to admit the demo offerings are scant at best, to the point of being nearly non existent. As for those demos, I use them all the time to determine whether I want to plunk down 10 or 15 bucks on a down loadable game. There are no three dollar games to be found on either service, barring the indie market which PSN doesn't even have. Lemmie know what gem you picked up for three dollars man, seriously. As for those decisions sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes it's no. I like able to make informed purchases based on my own opinions. If that's crazy call me crazy. If you enjoy buying games without so much as a screenshot that's your business, to each their own.IamSofaKingRaw said:
As for my other part not being of much value, that's your opinion. I wouldn't have mentioned it if I didn't appreciate it. For instance, the mortal kombat's demo? I never heard of it but that's probably because I don't even play, follow or like Mortal Kombat so the value of that is questionable to moot for me. It's a plus to you though so you'll wave your little sony flag and that's cool. Just don't expect me to wave too. That said your examples are going to be pretty singular, as in the exception to the rule. Sony doesn't give out bandwidth very often, they can't really afford to. The service is/was running in the red as it is which is why they introduced plus in the first place and that Joker DLC didn't keep more copies from being purchased for Xbox, for all that was worth. I mean looking at all the stuff that hits the 360 as much as a year before it hits the PS, for games I do play like Fallout, Mass effect or Oblivion, why would I care? Does that mean you're wrong? No. Like I said, how much value YOU derive. Maybe I think it's worth 50 bucks a year just to never have to see an ad for Axe body spray.
But don't get the idea I'm an Xbox fanboy. I just don't like getting fanboy froth on me so I'll react negatively to that. I own both consoles, that's how I even know demos are all but non-existent on PSN. If you want to send me a message over at "Ghengis John" on PSN I'll say hi. But don't expect to see me playing it often.
The number of accounts is meaningless. I personally have 3 PSN accounts to accommodate all my demon's souls characters. Last I checked I didn't become 3 people.kyoodle said:
PS3's are still more expensive (just did a quick check on some online stores.) But with a ten year console life span, a 360 gamer (assuming a ps3 gamer vs a xbox gamer for the same period of time) will pay $500 more if they subscribe to live (taken at it's current price point, I know it has been lower, but it may also get higher again.) Add into that the ability for developers to give away content for free on the PS3 (been loving all the free AC:B dlc, best multiplayer game in a long while and having no more connection issues on my ps3 than if I'd played the same amount of time on my pc.)Coldster said:
PSN+ has been brought up a few times and although I haven't gotten in yet I was sorely tempted (the only reason I hadn't is because all the games you got for free on it, exceeding the price of membership, I already own.)
Not really a PS3 fanboy, I bought it not because it was a PS3 but because it had the Disgaea 3, a game in the two years of owning a PS3 and being a PC gamer all my life I have put more time into than any other game, possibly excluding Disgaea 1)
EDIT: Typo, typed PS3 instead of PC once.
Except Halo 3 and Reach. But other than that, the PS3/PC/Wii setup is perhaps the most efficient in terms of money/games.Pipotchi said:
It's because Xbox Live has a bit higher quality and other squddily bits that Microsoft, being the greedy bastards we know and love, doesn't want to use their vault of money to pay for it. Therefore, they added a price on it to manage costs, and it doesn't really bother me. I've been on Xbox Live and Playstation network, and while PSN is free, XBL is a bit more user friendly and easy to use.
Yep, I have no idea why people hate 7. I have 7, it works, and there are more games. That's all I care about, so Mac is worthless to me until I get into video editing.doggie015 said:
