Why is Microsoft not giving Xbox Live free?
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WAAAAAITWAITWAITWAIT! Metal Gear Online has dedicated servers? All I've ever seen are games hosted by the community. o-O"IamSofaKingRaw said:
Thing is, bud, I don't have such a grand internet speed. The highest speed I ever get when I download is 156kbs. =\Azaraxzealot said:
Because it not only allows Microsoft to support and maintain the service that I still think is better than PSN overall, but also goes to incentive for third-party developers to not only work on the X360 but also to work on their multiplayer- since they know that Microsoft and the customers will actually be fronting a bill that they would otherwise pay.
Not to mention that it's only $50 for a whole YEAR, or basically $4/month- which really isn't much at all
Not to mention that it's only $50 for a whole YEAR, or basically $4/month- which really isn't much at all
If people are willing to pay, then they will charge. They are money grubbing capitalists, which is why they make canceling your subscription a pain in the ass to do as well.
I really doubt they've lost too many customers to the PS3 over this. In fact, I would bet my life that they haven't. If they were losing too many customers to the PS3 over this, they'd stop doing it. With something this obvious, you can trust they're not just flying blind - they know exactly how they should price their services (especially with the amount of customers and consequent data they have by now).Hellblazer12 said:
Also, remember that subscriptions tend to be more advantageous for a company than one-time sales. A company can try to predict game sales based on available data (and again, there's no lack of data there) and they can make surprisingly robust guesses, but they can predict their income from subscriptions almost perfectly. They know exactly how many people are likely to join and how many people are likely to unsubscribe and the overwhelming majority will do neither. This is especially nice because it means the company's projected profits from subscriptions will almost never be high. If anything, it's much more likely that they'll be low with a new game always having the potential to sell a lot of subscriptions.
Hahaha PC gamers have the best service and costs less? If you taking into account the price of a console VS the price of a decent gaming PC I don't think it costs less overall in any way shape or form.Worgen said:
Because they completely pioneered the idea of a console-level online service integrating all games for a single system. Sony then offered this free. Microsoft will almost definitely offer it free on their next console. They won't do it now because they're making money from it.
Surprisingly, corporations -- yes, even gaming corporations -- do not have your best interests at heart. They're looking to make money.
The fun flip-side is that by only purchasing the things you like most, you can tell them how best to go about doing so.
Welcome to a competitive marketplace.
You're now ready for the rest of Econ 101.
Surprisingly, corporations -- yes, even gaming corporations -- do not have your best interests at heart. They're looking to make money.
The fun flip-side is that by only purchasing the things you like most, you can tell them how best to go about doing so.
Welcome to a competitive marketplace.
You're now ready for the rest of Econ 101.
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in the short run its a bit more expensive but its much easier and cheaper to keep a good gaming pc up to current standards then a console, really you could make a pretty decent pc for around 400-500 bucks depending on what you need to get (monitor mostly since that is one of the larger single costs for a pc depending on the size you want) and if you factor in having to pay for multi like the 360 does then it only takes a few years for the console cost to be higher then the pc unless you manage to find lots of really really good deals on the 1year cards, which is possible but kinda hard since they sell out fastthe_green_dragon said:
Because Microsoft needs to make enough money to recover from all of the financial problems that Windows Vista caused. Thank god Sony doesn't develop PC operating systems.
In all, Xbox Live is worth the money but a free service is always a nice wish.
In all, Xbox Live is worth the money but a free service is always a nice wish.
If people pay are willing to pay for it, why not? Plus then they can claim it's a premium service when compared to PSN, even if that wasn't the truth.
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WOOOO I just won *dances around the room* I have won the internet because of you and you have proven that my point was right, for you see, with only your righteous indignation could I truly have achieved victory, all the other responses were just too reasonableLaxman9292 said:
so I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this stunning victory today, Im not used to people handing me one so easily
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Hahaha PC gamers have the best service and costs less? If you taking into account the price of a console VS the price of a decent gaming PC I don't think it costs less overall in any way shape or form.[/quote]the_green_dragon said:
in the short run its a bit more expensive but its much easier and cheaper to keep a good gaming pc up to current standards then a console, really you could make a pretty decent pc for around 400-500 bucks depending on what you need to get (monitor mostly since that is one of the larger single costs for a pc depending on the size you want) and if you factor in having to pay for multi like the 360 does then it only takes a few years for the console cost to be higher then the pc unless you manage to find lots of really really good deals on the 1year cards, which is possible but kinda hard since they sell out fast[/quote]
I dunno, the price of a decent gaming video card will set u back a pretty penny[/quote]
not really, you can buy a pretty good one for just 150, the vid card is one of those things you should buy with the intention of having to upgrade it later since video card tech advances so quickly, really just buying something that works with dx11 should last a good awhile if its got 1 gig of ram
weird, the quote is messed up
What most people seem to fail to understand is that a persistent online gaming service has an infrastructure behind it: servers, administrators, bandwidth expenses, hosting costs, etc.Hellblazer12 said:
You're not getting nothing for that money that you're paying for the base subscription: yeah, they probably charge more than they need, but I bet 50% or more of your subscription pays for the infrastructure cost behind XBL.
And for those that think PSN will be free forever... well, let's just say Sony hasn't stayed in business this long giving away stuff for free. At some point (some number of subscribers, probably), I bet they'll do the same thing.