Why is Prostitution Illegal?

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Insanum

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demoman_chaos said:
Insanum said:
Well it's actually sex in exchange for money. Put on your attenborough head for a moment and ask what sex is - Do you see any animals in the animal kingdom paying for it?
Do you see any animals that have money? Can't pay for sex if you don't have money.
Ok, Ill admit, I laughed at that.
demoman_chaos said:
If you were in the UK, Arming yourself and attacking an intruder is a criminal offence (another stupid rule, i know) But alas, This is another topic. But, If we can bring it back to the topic of NIMBY's - Basically "be prepared" is the response to have?
Yes, or call the cops if things get out of hand.
In the US, you can kill an intruder in self-defense. So I don't get why attacking an intruder a criminal offense? Didn't the RAF attack the intruding Luftwaffe during the Battle of Britain?
Thats called War.
demoman_chaos said:
Very Different. Is one of the consenting adults in the video paying[/I] to be there?

He's there hopping on the good foot & doing the bad thing, And your at home watching him with the one hand fandango. Thats the main difference. The second Major difference. Filmed. We'll stick with the gender role we have been using - She does it with him and is filmed - the film is then distributed. Everyone that pays[/I] to see that video is only seeing a video, They're not taking the place of the guy, unlike prostitution.
But in the end, the person partaking in the sex is still getting paid like a prostitute would. Porn is like double-sided prostitution on film. Both people are getting paid to have sex on camera.
It is a double edged sword, Only porn is considered the "Lesser evil". The people that take part in those films are well aware of what happens in the industry. It'd be naive to say "no-one is forced into these films". Also, When it comes to those films, The actors arent payed for how many times they..."Perform", but for how many time their films are shown/sold.
demoman_chaos said:
You can film prostitutes doing their thing and sell the videos as porn, so the point about the guy "having fun with Rosey Palm" would be there either way. Only difference between porn and prostitution is that both individuals are getting paid instead of just a single person making a profit.
Once again, We're stuck with the issue of the Prostitue. Why is she in the industry? Now i know that you could[/I] ask adult movie stars that too, But that isnt the topic of the thread.
 

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D Bones said:
The danger of young girls falling into a cycle of prostitution before they are mature enough to make such decisions, parents prostituting their kids for money, rape, drugs go hand in hand with prostitutes, underage women and men having sex - which also can lead to kiddie porn.

Dude, there are lots of reasons.
legalizing prostitution wouldn't change the minimum age for sex, therefore wouldn't change the eligibility of these scenarios.
 

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Also, When it comes to those films, The actors arent payed for how many times they..."Perform", but for how many time their films are shown/sold.
Very few pornographic actors earn residuals, those that do are usually also producers of their work. Many of them are in fact paid by the shoot...

I know a few gay porn websites where people have said that the producers (who costar) simply use pornography laws as way around prostitution laws. It's not at all hard to believe. I can't name names obviously but suffice it to say that they involve middle aged men with money having sex with much younger and attractive guys, who they pay.
 

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Insanum said:
Thats called War.
It is still attacking an intruder. Them invading your home is like an army invading your country. Is it better to sit back and let the invader loot your village, or is it better to spill some blood and possibly save your family? Their blood our yours, which do you want spilled less?

It is a double edged sword, Only porn is considered the "Lesser evil". The people that take part in those films are well aware of what happens in the industry. It'd be naive to say "no-one is forced into these films". Also, When it comes to those films, The actors arent payed for how many times they..."Perform", but for how many time their films are shown/sold.
Most prostitutes are also quite aware of the dangers of their industry. Those in countries where it is legal do it willingly like "actors" in porn movies do it willingly.
Most actors are usually paid a flat-rate for their services. They normally don't get paid more if the movie does well. They likely get bonuses after the fact, but most don't get much of a post-release bonus.

Once again, We're stuck with the issue of the Prostitue. Why is she in the industry? Now i know that you could[/I] ask adult movie stars that too, But that isnt the topic of the thread.
If she was willingly in the industry, she probably is doing so for the same reasons a porn star would. A paycheck between jobs, not as a final career.
 

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dfphetteplace said:
Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. But selling fucking isn't legal. I guess it is so the politicians can feel nice and naughty when they do it.
ya i cant find the logic in that either
 

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It's seen to be immoral. More to the point though, you'll never find a politician willing to back legislation to over turn it until public opinion shifts on the subject.
 

Tarmon'gaidin

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Euhm dude I would tell you to come to Holland prostitution IS legal here.
And you know why? Because you need a license to be a prostitute.
 

Demongeneral109

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for alot of people, I think they fail to see the diffrence between cubside prostitution, and brothels, brothels could be legalized, curb-side cannot. That sidesteps alot of problems in
Insanum's argument, and drug dependancy and other methods of bondage would be removed because of government regulation, overall, legalization would serve to protect the women involved in the sex trade. (in terms of children, that will happen regardless of the law, it should stay illegal of course, its disgusting!!! in the end, outright banning somthing not clearly depraved (again, no child sex!)only exaperates the problem, during prohibition, more people injured themselved making bathroom Jin, and the Mob made more money, than almost any other time before or since! Hell, Prohibition is why there is an American mob!
 

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Insanum said:
Put on your attenborough head for a moment and ask what sex is - Do you see any animals in the animal kingdom paying for it?
Umm, actaully... There have been studies that showed how macaque males would gather fruits and stuff and give to females, at which point they would consent for mating.
So... yeah.
 

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demoman_chaos said:
Here is my proposed solution. You have to have a license to be a prostitute, which requires a weekly STD test. Fail the test, lose your license.
This is the problem with legalizing something currently illegal;

People are doing it illegally now anyway. You think they'd simply stop selling their bodies because they don't have a license saying the can do it legally? Of course not!

As for my view on it, I don't see why it's illegal. I would never pay for sex, but I don't look down on people that do.
 

brainfreeze215

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It's a pretty archaic rule, it turns out. All the reasons it's illegal could probably be better handled by having a regulated and governed system. Perhaps even a union. Either way it's still taboo and we're not ready for it yet.
 

Gather

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With enough regulation I don't have a problem with it. Be it a certain street/section in the city or somewhere out there. Sure, the shady locals would still happen (For those who want to "keep it quiet" or *Cough* exotic *Cough*) but it could still be an improvement over before.

Although the whole moral thing can make or break an election campaign and ruin your parties changes of being reelected anytime soon so...
(An image that kinda illustrates the "Moral" problem)

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But on the other hand of that image, I do remember another one of a yearbook with a woman who hopes to become a Teacher some day... Beside it was her staring in her very own Porno.
 

Tourette

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Prostitution is the olded profession yet will always be deemed wrong. Doesn't this summarise us as a species,lol.
 

Insanum

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demoman_chaos said:
Insanum said:
Thats called War.
It is still attacking an intruder. Them invading your home is like an army invading your country. Is it better to sit back and let the invader loot your village, or is it better to spill some blood and possibly save your family? Their blood our yours, which do you want spilled less?
War isnt the same as a thief.
demoman_chaos said:
It is a double edged sword, Only porn is considered the "Lesser evil". The people that take part in those films are well aware of what happens in the industry. It'd be naive to say "no-one is forced into these films". Also, When it comes to those films, The actors arent payed for how many times they..."Perform", but for how many time their films are shown/sold.
Most prostitutes are also quite aware of the dangers of their industry. Those in countries where it is legal do it willingly like "actors" in porn movies do it willingly.
Most actors are usually paid a flat-rate for their services. They normally don't get paid more if the movie does well. They likely get bonuses after the fact, but most don't get much of a post-release bonus.
Ive got to ask, How do you know[/I] they do it willingly? Legalising a shady industry doesnt mean the shady side of things stops completely. Porn is Legal as it is Film, Prostitution (although in the same area i.e sex) is illegal due to, not only the health risks, But all the other risks that come with it (see the previous 4 pages).
demoman_chaos said:
Once again, We're stuck with the issue of the Prostitue. Why is she in the industry? Now i know that you could[/I] ask adult movie stars that too, But that isnt the topic of the thread.
If she was willingly in the industry, she probably is doing so for the same reasons a porn star would. A paycheck between jobs, not as a final career.
Once again, Have you ever met a prostitute? A lot of the girls that do that aren't topless dancers "dancing their way through med school", these are people that are trying to get by anyway they can. Being a prostitute is degrading, its a stigma that is as old as civilised society.

Legalising a problem, doesnt mean its no longer a problem. Some countries have got legalised areas of prostitution, and sure, it may work in small sections. On the whole though, the industry attracts degenerates, low-lives & criminals.
Hlain said:
Insanum said:
Put on your attenborough head for a moment and ask what sex is - Do you see any animals in the animal kingdom paying for it?
Umm, actaully... There have been studies that showed how macaque males would gather fruits and stuff and give to females, at which point they would consent for mating.
So... yeah.
I knew attenborough would let me down. Fuck ¬¬