Why is Prostitution Illegal?

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Tdc2182

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D Bones said:
The danger of young girls falling into a cycle of prostitution before they are mature enough to make such decisions, parents prostituting their kids for money, rape, drugs go hand in hand with prostitutes, underage women and men having sex - which also can lead to kiddie porn.
Something along the lines of this. It would be all to easy for a pimp to force women into prostitution, and very easy for him to just plain deny having ever done so. Blackmail is sometimes very hard to trace.
 

HardkorSB

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In my country, it's not illegal.
I believe that being a pimp are illegal here.
If one wants to have sex for money, one can.
 

Ghostkai

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Because when people think of it being legal they think "that could be my daughter who one day fucks strangers for money". Myself included. Would you honestly be cool with your daughter becoming a prostitute? (I'm bound to get some people who say "yeah, I totally would" just for the sake of argument, but try some honesty with yourself before you say that)

There also seems to be a nasty cycle with prostitutes and organised crime with drug addiction.
 

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In Denmark it's not illegal as long as the payment ends in the right pocket (meaning no pimps!). But there is a pimp somewhere in most cases, so the girl gets very little or nothing at all. And prostitutes doesn't have the same rights for some reason :p
 

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It was legal until someone noticed that it technically qualified as slavery based on the definition in the amendment that made it illegal, therefore it became illegal as well. (just a guess)
 

Ironic Pirate

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D Bones said:
You nailed part of it with STD's. I guess "sex addiction" (although, I think that's bologna. everyone with a penis is a sex addict).

The danger of young girls falling into a cycle of prostitution before they are mature enough to make such decisions, parents prostituting their kids for money, rape, drugs go hand in hand with prostitutes, underage women and men having sex - which also can lead to kiddie porn.

Dude, there are lots of reasons.
I'm guessing the licences would have an age requirement...

And drug tests would also be possible.

And also, some people with penises (me) don't really like sex. So yeah.
 

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I would speculate that it is, in part, to avoid the abuse of those in the business, and that vulnerable people are not forced into the trade. However much protection there may be for those individuals, there is always the potential that there are those taking advantage of them.
 

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You are correct OP; it should be legal. It's good for the economy, makes things easier on the police and makes it possible to make a decent living for prostitutes without having to resort to pimps to keep them safe.

It should be noted for the unenlightened however, that Prostitution is not the same as trafficking, which is a monstrous crime.
 

tehroc

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kazork said:
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Because it's impossible to enforce taxation.
In Amsterdam the prostitutes pay tax and it is working fine.

The main thing is that prostitutes wil always exist, it is called the oldes proffesion for a reason. Making it illegal won't stop it and will just force the proffesion to be regulated by criminals.
If you make it legal you can regulate, protect and tax.
In Amsterdam the prostituse have there working rooms in the Red light district wich is in the center of the city.
They have a panick button in there room, when said button is pressed the police is notified and can send someone to go look.
They are checked for STD's and last but not least they have to fill in a tax-form.
Amsterdam is only a city with most likely no more then a thousand prostitutes, it easy to keep tabs on something like that. Now try taxing prostitution over a population of 250 million; that's almost impossible for any government to keep track of who is legal and is illegal across an entire nation. Prostitution is still illegal in other parts of Netherlands.
 

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tehroc said:
Amsterdam is only a city with most likely no more then a thousand prostitutes, it easy to keep tabs on something like that. Now try taxing prostitution over a population of 250 million; that's almost impossible for any government to keep track of who is legal and is illegal across an entire nation. Prostitution is still illegal in other parts of Netherlands.
I don't see how nation-wide prostitution would be more complicated to tax than nation-wide logging. Or accounting. Or carpentry. Make pimps illegal, legalize prostitution, problem solved.
 

Assassin Xaero

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An ever better question, why is suicide illegal? If you go through with it, what are they going to do to you? Throw your dead body in jail?
 

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Slaanax said:
Illegal Prostitution spreads STDS better than Legal Prostitution specially now of days when you can test and force the of condoms and other protection. The USA was in many was founded by religious people so they viewed at as wrong mostly.
The last sentence says it all
 

tehroc

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Mortagog said:
tehroc said:
Amsterdam is only a city with most likely no more then a thousand prostitutes, it easy to keep tabs on something like that. Now try taxing prostitution over a population of 250 million; that's almost impossible for any government to keep track of who is legal and is illegal across an entire nation. Prostitution is still illegal in other parts of Netherlands.
I don't see how nation-wide prostitution would be more complicated to tax than nation-wide logging. Or accounting. Or carpentry. Make pimps illegal, legalize prostitution, problem solved.
The problem is when Amateur Annie is behind on her rent and decides to put herself on the market for some extra cash. How can you keep track of that? Now in my opinion sex is a lot more fun then accounting or carpentry and I'm sure you'd agree. Rampant part-time prostitutes would be everywhere as a decent looking woman could easily get $500 a week with as little as 5 hours per week, our slutty female workforce would albeit disappear since they can easily get paid with far less effort. Do you think Amateur Annie is going to claim this money as taxable?
 

Wedlock49

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If you regulate prostitution like you do porn and everything is perfectly fine.

Let them be real buisnesses that have to keep up to standards, each prostitute has to have a clean bill of health and measures need to be taken to keep them safe, condoms and the customers will have to prove that they are STI clean by producing a test that's fairly recent.

The problem with making things like this illegal is that you can't tax it, which puts money into the hands of criminals.
 

Therumancer

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Dramatic Flare said:
Because letting Mongo solve the issue is so morally correct, and just dumping a hooker's body in the river when she gets a little uppity is so fantastic to let happen.
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Society already has to handle the burden. We sit here and act like if we just ignore this little problem it will go away, stay hidden and not bother us in our cushioned lives. Fact is, every one of those beaten, broken women who feel like they have no where else to go could instead be empowered individuals if we just took a little time to take them from the fringe and give them a chance.
Literally every other society has, at one point or another, or even now, allowed Prostitution. Only America, foolish, Puritan America, doesn't except for one state that everyone agrees is fucked up. But then we wonder why people will go to such great lengths to satiate carnal desires.
Seriously, most people who attend strip clubs are older males, and I would assume the ones attending the brothels would be as well. sure, the urgency leaves, and your outlook does change. However, not everyone's outlook changes to the opinion that it is unnecessary. Some want it even more. Yes, young men will take advantage of it too, and so will middle aged men.
I've already dealt with your opinion of crime: force it into buildings, and arguments over payment won't happen. And if they do, well, that customer simply isn't going to be able to come back. It's exactly what happens when someone tries to steal from a restaurant.

Oh, your most definatly correct that a lot of it *IS* NIMBY sentiment, this is one of the few occasions where I think it's fine. Your idea about limiting things to buisness districts isn't workable because what is going on there is still going to leak out into the surrounding community.

As far as the bit about "Mongo" goes, I think your missing the point. The Police effectively have to BECOME "Mongo" because things are going to get pretty over the top when sex is involved. Maybe they might not wind up using the same exact enforcement methods, but they are liable to get into a lot more fights.

When it comes to paperwork and bureaucracy, your dead wrong there. The goverment doesn't have to provide the doctors and such, your correct about that, but it does need to hire clerks to handle all the paperwork and deal with/regulate those doctors. With the rising prices connected to existing services like simply registering dogs due to the amount of stress these systems are already under, it's just going to get worse if you add millions of hookers seeking liscences to the equasion. Your probably going to have to see whole new bureaucratic divisions opened both on the state and local level, since both levels are doutblessly going to have their own requirements and want to watchdog them.


On top of this, I think your missing part of the point. It's not just about guys refusing to pay hookers, but what abount hookers who refuse to provide the services but claim they did? That's going to be one wickedly nasty cup of legal tea there.


Apologies for chopping a lot of that off, I have trouble breaking up quoting (despite instructions on how to do it), and this was getting waaay too long.
 

kazork

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tehroc said:
kazork said:
tehroc said:
Because it's impossible to enforce taxation.
In Amsterdam the prostitutes pay tax and it is working fine.

The main thing is that prostitutes wil always exist, it is called the oldes proffesion for a reason. Making it illegal won't stop it and will just force the proffesion to be regulated by criminals.
If you make it legal you can regulate, protect and tax.
In Amsterdam the prostituse have there working rooms in the Red light district wich is in the center of the city.
They have a panick button in there room, when said button is pressed the police is notified and can send someone to go look.
They are checked for STD's and last but not least they have to fill in a tax-form.
Amsterdam is only a city with most likely no more then a thousand prostitutes, it easy to keep tabs on something like that. Now try taxing prostitution over a population of 250 million; that's almost impossible for any government to keep track of who is legal and is illegal across an entire nation. Prostitution is still illegal in other parts of Netherlands.
That is actually not true. Prostitution is legal everywere in the netherlands. YOu can find a red light district in every major city in the Netherland the only thing is that the one in Amsterdam is the best known because of the tourism.

Your other point is valid. I did a quick google search and found that there are 30.000 prostitutes registerd in the Netherlands.
In the us that would make 468.750 prostitutes(if the percentage of prostitutes is constant).

Now that i look at it that would be a pretty doable for a country as big as america.