Why is Star Wars: Episode I Looked Upon With Despise?
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Theres no direction to the plot. Hell, there isn't even a main character! Theres too much going on and too much emphasis to apparently just shove as much in there as possible. This is a problem that all of the prequels have. Arguably, the only movie that almost diverts from this is Episode III, but even then its still kind of a mess.
I still LIKE them, they're fun to watch and fun to riff on with mates when drinking or just having a good time. But when you compare them to the original series, or really any other film with an understandable plot, characters and direction- they fall short
I still LIKE them, they're fun to watch and fun to riff on with mates when drinking or just having a good time. But when you compare them to the original series, or really any other film with an understandable plot, characters and direction- they fall short
Midiclorians. That was bad.
Jar Jar Fucking Binks was awful.
But for me the biggest deal breaker was shoe-horning in C3P0 and R2D2. Seriously, Darth Vader built C3P0? This isn't just the most enormously contrived bullshit plot "WTF" moment in sci-fi history?
Jar Jar Fucking Binks was awful.
But for me the biggest deal breaker was shoe-horning in C3P0 and R2D2. Seriously, Darth Vader built C3P0? This isn't just the most enormously contrived bullshit plot "WTF" moment in sci-fi history?
Eh, I was okay with it personally, and Jar Jar didn't bug me all that much. I didn't care much for "Attack of the Clones", but I thought "Revenge of the Sith" was pretty good. And being a fan of the "Darths and Droids" webcomic kinda helps.
There isn't really much else I can rant about Episode I that already hasn't been mentioned by the other posters. However, based on your statement that I quoted, I have to ask: did you even watch the original trilogy before watching the prequels? I've got to say, I couldn't disagree more that Ep 1 is up to the same level of quality as Ep 4-6, but I'm curious to know what order you watched them in.Yelchor said:
It's definately not the worst Star wars out there, but it is still quite bad, as Red letter media points out in his Episode 2 review, the prequels were only there to cash in on the franchise and create a new line of toys and video games in the process, that's why characters like Obi-Wan and Anakin are underdeveloped and the reason why Jar-Jar exists, heck Lucas has done it before by creating the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi, just to make him more money by creating toys which foolish children will beg their parents to buy.
Although many despise Episode 1 for this, they did not expect the abominations that 2 & 3 were, and how they left huge stain on the franchise.
Although many despise Episode 1 for this, they did not expect the abominations that 2 & 3 were, and how they left huge stain on the franchise.
i really like episode 1. I don't get why people rag on it so much, or on midichlorians either. I think it's a fair explanation and makes the force seem less like a deity. I hated episode 2 but i thought 3 was fair apart from natalie portman and whatshis face who plays Anakin.
To quote yahtzee "Fans are annoying complaining dip shits who won't be great full for anything you give them." It's similar to the new Indiana Jones movie, it isn't like the originals, therefore it is shit.
Not everything has to be connected by some past event. Not everything has to be explained by the actions of the same characters only in the past, not everything has to be a direct result from Character B when he was a young character B.Caurus said:
I don't like when the whole point of something like this is to explain something else. I didn't want to watch a movie explaining what my imagination already wrote for me. I wanted a movie about events i didn't know about. As said as well i dislike Vadar's back story. The only connection they honestly needed was Vadar was Lukes and Laias father and that they were somehow royalty. Nothing else.
Why did C3P0 have to be built by Vadar, there was no reason for it other then to shoe horn him in there.
Why did R2D2 have to be there at all. He was just a shoe horn.
The lack of ANY details given to Jango and Bobba pretty much means that one of my favorite characters was fan service. Which irritates me. He appeared to explain the clones, ran away, then promptly died. They could have used anything else, including the original clones just being a very powerful soldier. They went with Jango Fett to explain Bobba fett so they could shoe horn both characters into it and make Bobba Fett's existence entirely because of the clone wars. This feel entirely unnecessary and shoe horned just for fan service. Fan service that ultimately irritates me because THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT TALK AND DIE!
But most importantly my original point was how they changed the original three movies to connect with the new three. Adding stupid new scenes, changing lines and implanting Anakins force ghost at the burial scene.
That's actually, kinda, explained in the MMO Star Wars Galaxies. Midochlorians can't survive the cloning process so well. Each clone is significantly weaker and the new jedi will have a significantly harder time channeling the force.Raithnor said:
At least that's how it was before they turned the game into WoW in Space.
The vast majority of the hatred has to do with this guy:
Episode I just plain sucked. Not even Liam Neeson could save it, and he's a damn fine actor with some brilliant work. Even though he did quite well as Qui-Gon Jin (in my opinon) all the other actors around him just plain sucked. There also wasn't enough action. There was too much deabte in the Senate and too much bullshit red tape. The pod racing was actually quite entertaining though. There was no charm to the whole thing. There was too much CGI and not enough charm like the original ones had. Episode I was just plain crap. That's why people hate it.
Episode I just plain sucked. Not even Liam Neeson could save it, and he's a damn fine actor with some brilliant work. Even though he did quite well as Qui-Gon Jin (in my opinon) all the other actors around him just plain sucked. There also wasn't enough action. There was too much deabte in the Senate and too much bullshit red tape. The pod racing was actually quite entertaining though. There was no charm to the whole thing. There was too much CGI and not enough charm like the original ones had. Episode I was just plain crap. That's why people hate it.
Actually, I was less than 10 and I didn't find it funny, so you would have to be too young to comprehend humour.Pink_Pirate said:
I liked it the best of the "new" star wars films. They still had a puppet like yoda which I quite liked. As for jar jar binks, I don't have any feelings one way or the other with him.
I liked it.
I liked it.
Okay, I can buy the cloning reasoning mostly due to the whole "Copy of a copy" problem. That still doesn't explain why breeding Jedi bloodlines wouldn't work. There's a really obscure part of the EU that says that doesn't work either, but it's so out there than I don't really remember where it's from.Kagim said:
Again there's the inconsistances of "Children of Destiny" vs. "Legacy of the Force". The first is "A person has the force because the living force willed it so." and the second is "I am a Jedi, like my father before me."
The only clear answer seems to be: "Whatever works for the story they're trying to tell."
I was looking forward to the Plaguis/Sidious novel because from what was rumored Anakin's conception was rumored to be a Sith experiment by Plaguis. Which would have been nice because the "Immaculate Conception"-backstory comes with too much baggage being the cornerstone of modern Christianity.
Kagim said:
The short answer to this is YES everything does have to be connected else it wouldn't be a saga or a prequel!!!!
The world would be better off if they had never been made because they were cheesy/just rubbish (short answer again) not because they were prequels. It could have been done well but it wasn't.
Putting my arrogance aside for a moment...I AGREE that they were being a bit jammy about the whole thing...but I don't have an issue with the plot. I liked enough of it and
I LIKE SAGAS!
as a concept anyways...if you couldn't tell already
