Why is the Wii for Casual Only gamers?

[RikSharp]

But I get your point, all ps3/360 games are fucking hard, and you have to have super-human gaming abillities to complete them, while all wii games are easy enough for blind retarded 3 year olds to complete in a few hours. Or am i completely wrong?

wrong, methinks.
teenage mutant ninja turtles on x360 vs Excite truck on wii.

which is easier or which takes longer or which requires more skill?

 

[teisjm]

But I get your point, all ps3/360 games are fucking hard, and you have to have super-human gaming abillities to complete them, while all wii games are easy enough for blind retarded 3 year olds to complete in a few hours. Or am i completely wrong?

wrong, methinks.
teenage mutant ninja turtles on x360 vs Excite truck on wii.

which is easier or which takes longer or which requires more skill?

dunno haven't played either.

 

[Pimppeter2]

So you can ask. And so you can start a flamewar

 

[Count_de_Monet]

There is a very simple reason why the Wii isn't a hardcore gaming system: your aunt/mom/grandmom/4 year old nephew/mildly retarded cousin/grade school teacher has one. There are difficult games (and not just difficult to control games), there are competitive games, there are puzzle games, and there are pony games on the Wii but because your aunt Flo has one connected to her home TV and thinks it's ok the system isn't for hardcore gamers.

There are other reasons too, such as finicky controls, poor graphics, not being able to play games for five hours without developing tennis elbow, and a blatant bias towards children's/casual games on the system but those tend to turn into arguments of degrees and fanboyism so why delve into them?

 

[megapenguinx]

because you cant play games like prototype, halo, infamous (and all other normal action games) with the motion controler for more then 20 mins.
and WII games are for beginners

No. No. No. No.
You see Billy, people throw the words casual and hardcore around too much nowadays. Before it used to be simple: Either you were a gamer or you weren't.
Here's how you figure it out: Do you own some sort of gaming platform and play on it regularly?
Do you enjoy playing video games?
Do you think they are fun?
If yes to any of the above then you're a gamer.
The Wii is for beginners? Well golly, I sure didn't know that! I guess all those hours playing Metal Gear on the NES were null and void because the Wii hadn't come out yet. Can't start on any other gaming platform and move onto the Wii now can I? Listen all you kids out there who like to call yourself 'hardcore', if you want the title, earn it. Here are the only ways I'll consider you ever 'hardcore':
1)You've played a game so much, it broke your console.
2)Your hands are two huge bits of callous because you've played so much they bleed.
3)You can beat games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Devil May Cry on the hardest difficulty, without taking a single hit ever.
4)You are ridiculously good at games with epic amounts of micromanaging (only because I fear those people and believe they should become future economists).
This casual vs hardcore argument is just a media buzz. Stop worrying so much about whether you're playing on a 'casual' or a 'hardcore' console and actually enjoy the games, because that's what being a gamer is all about.
-Penguin out

 

[Flour]

I wouldn't say the Wii is for casual gamers, but rather a casual console. Something to get out during birthdays.

However, most people will say the wii is a casual console because this [http://i40.tinypic.com/2mzz6g9.jpg] is the first thing they think of when they hear the word "Wii"

 

[squid5580]

So you can ask. And so you can start a flamewar

Ya like any other question wouldn't start a flame war. Holy crap you can ask anything here and start a flame war. My apologies for attempting to try and learn something new. Aterall it is any thread creators sole responsibility to make sure the responses are mature and thought out and have fences to keep out any trolls.

 

[LazerLuger]

If we're going into this conversation, what necessarily counts as casual? Is somebody who only plays Bejewled casual? Does playing for 30-60 minutes a day casual? Am I casual for playing Bioshock and its ilk for only 2-4 hours a day?

 

[era81]

If a month goes by and you don't release a game on your system that doesn't include the words mini or game you are for casual gamers only.

 

[squid5580]

Nintendo's target demographic isn't solely casual gamers. The other intended audience is non-gamers, an attempt to wrangle more profit from people who don't or can't wrap their minds around more immerse titles like the Legend of Zelda or Metroid. Remember, it's a business. It's all about making money.

Many casual titles (not just made by Nintendo) are equipped with controls or mechanics SO simple that several "hardcore" gamers may simply try to read into them too much. There's no real skill required for some of them, they're just more simple concepts. Of course the motion controls, while very good, are still incomplete without the Motion Plus upgrade. In their base state, it's easy for so many developers to drop the ball and simply fail to utilize them properly (or at all).

Couple this with the fact that they took a heavy financial hit with the Gamecube and were unable to reap the maximum worth of the hardware in the last generation.

The existence of the Wii is justified in the fact that they had a slim chance with their then-dwindling funds of creating a next-gen system that could rival/surpass the hardware capabilities of the PS3 or 360. This is why the guts of the Wii are essentially a rearranged Gamecube with a slightly faster processor and more RAM. This allowed them to focus the majority of development time on the Motion Controls.

As far as the graphics go, there's really nothing wrong with them. People can berate them all they want, but that just makes them Graphics Whores. Graphics alone don't make a game a success. The Wii improves graphically on what the Gamecube already did quite well.

I enjoy the Wii and don't have much difficulty with the controls. I too would like more usual "core" games and less bargain bin fodder as well as more compatibility with the Classic or Gamecube controller. Simply including that function in more titles would appease many more seasoned gamers that just want to jump in and go without having to fight with half-broken motion controls.

My response to people who having nothing nice to say about the Wii (not insulting you directly) is that they must not have any friends. It can be fun while playing solo, it IS a real blast with some friends and the right titles.

Just to be clear I didn't like the Wii. I didn't have much fun swinging my arms around or trying to aim with it. In the same tangent here I also didn't like GTA 4 or COD 4 for a variety of reasons. They don't appeal to me personally but at the same time I can see the value of them and understand how another person might.

And if you saw my friends you would see why I don't want them in my house touching my stuff

 

[toasterslayer]

I WANT PIKEMIN 3!!!!!!

anyway, the system does appeal to a wider audience and that makes fanboys scared. (they might meet normal people! *gasp*)

edit: i misspelled pikemin didn't i?

 

[Pimppeter2]

So you can ask. And so you can start a flamewar

Ya like any other question wouldn't start a flame war. Holy crap you can ask anything here and start a flame war. My apologies for attempting to try and learn something new. After all it is any thread creators sole responsibility to make sure the responses are mature and thought out and have fences to keep out any trolls.

No, you started a flame war by stereotyping Wii owners. You aren't trying to learn something new. Your question is utterly retarded and has been done thousands of time. A simple search could have answered this question. The wii has been out what 4 years? We all know the Wii caters mostly to casual fans with popular games while still occasionally holding its core gamers with Mario and Zelda games. We all fucken know this. If you haven't come to the conclusion so far you must be thicker than the Great Wall of China.

I like Mario and Zelda but not wii fit, if I own a wii that doesn't make me a causal gamer. If I bought a 360 and only bough guitar hero games I would be a casual gamer. You're just stereotyping the average wii owner and starting a flame war.

You know how I can tell that this is a flame war. You responded to my post. You're trying to make me respond like I am now. It's important to not feed the trolls but sometimes you have to deal with the fucken idiots.

 

[squid5580]

So you can ask. And so you can start a flamewar

Ya like any other question wouldn't start a flame war. Holy crap you can ask anything here and start a flame war. My apologies for attempting to try and learn something new. After all it is any thread creators sole responsibility to make sure the responses are mature and thought out and have fences to keep out any trolls.

No, you started a flame war by stereotyping Wii owners. You aren't trying to learn something new. Your question is utterly retarded and has been done thousands of time. A simple search could have answered this question. The wii has been out what 4 years? We all know the Wii caters mostly to casual fans with popular games while still occasionally holding its core gamers with Mario and Zelda games. We all fucken know this. If you haven't come to the conclusion so far you must be thicker than the Great Wall of China.

I like Mario and Zelda but not wii fit, if I own a wii that doesn't make me a causal gamer. If I bought a 360 and only bough guitar hero games I would be a casual gamer. You're just stereotyping the average wii owner and starting a flame war.

You know how I can tell that this is a flame war. You responded to my post. You're trying to make me respond like I am now. It's important to not feed the trolls but sometimes you have to deal with the fucken idiots.

ORLY??? I am the Nintendo president who came out at launch and stated this is for casual gamers??? Give me a fuckin break.

Oh and you may want to go back and reread the OP. Cuz I never once said that only casual gamers play the Wii. Infact if your tiny little dinosaur brain had allowed you to read past the title I was kinda implying that the Wii isn't just for casual gamers. And was asking why they are always labelled as such.

 

[Pendragon9]

Here's my answer. The Wii is a decent game console. The problem is ALL OF US. And Nintendo is to blame too.

We had to practice and work hard back in the old days. You wanted to complete Super Mario Brothers? You had to get the perfect knack for jumping over those f*cking fish. And then memorize the castle layout at world 8 before time ran out. Then you had to jump over Bowser in one epic hammer flung fireball frenzy that even Cthulu would shoot himself over if he could play a Nintendo with those tentacles of his.

Not going off topic, here's the point. The hard games of yesteryear trained us to play excellent games of the later times. We were ready to play what they gave us next, and that's why the games were so fun. They started out easy for the beginners, then became terribly difficult for us hardcore gamers. But by then, we had it down, and we were running past entire spike levels and blowing up mid level bosses like walking on a meadow of flowers. Thus the game could be challenging yet still fun without being frustrating.

Nowadays, Nintendo fans and Nintendo themselves prefer games that are easy and do things for you. There's no challenge anymore. None of the new games can offer challenge. Twilight Princess? FEH. That game is a cake walk. Super Mario Galaxy? More like "Super Put down the controller and get a sandwich Galaxy". Metroid Prime? How about you dodge lethal spaghetti-os in a lava filled room for half an hour while trying to fire missiles at a gigantic brain? None of those games can compare to yesteryear. Face it. Nintendo has lost it's touch. Why else do so many eager and well played Nintendo fans praise the Virtual Console so much? Because it's a fountain of nostalgia that they know well.

Why, I bet someday they'll think up a game that plays itself.

Oh wait...

 

[Quaidis]

I don't know what is what anymore. If simplistic games like Tetris are casual, then how are there hardcore Chess tournaments out there that people spend years studying towards? I like games. You know, those things you play by hitting buttons in order to have fun? Once you are no longer having fun gaming becomes a chore, a job, and is no longer really a 'game' anymore. So playing a game until you are so mute and 'plugged in' that you've transcended 'fun', that you've successfully trained yourself to point and shoot numbly at random pixels for hours on end, you are not hardcore. You are idiotic. Go join your country's military, because that's the next step.

I get what the thread maker is talking about. I have tons of Wii games and some of them are impossibly hard. Not 'bad controller' hard, but Nintendo Hard. Kids these days cannot even conceive Nintendo Hard since many of the games I have played on the PS2 and Xbox were beatable. You are lucky.

If you don't believe me, buy Heavenly Guardian (for the Wii). It's in the cheapo bin. Try to get through Level 2, each level being only about six stages.

Here are the only ways I'll consider you ever 'hardcore':
1)You've played a game so much, it broke your console.
2)Your hands are two huge bits of callous because you've played so much they bleed.
3)You can beat games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Devil May Cry on the hardest difficulty, without taking a single hit ever.
4)You are ridiculously good at games with epic amounts of micromanaging (only because I fear those people and believe they should become future economists).
This casual vs hardcore argument is just a media buzz. Stop worrying so much about whether you're playing on a 'casual' or a 'hardcore' console and actually enjoy the games, because that's what being a gamer is all about.
-Penguin out

Careful, kids may think that getting a RedRing on the 360 would make them 'hardcore' with that kind of logic. The Wii is the system that breaks the least in today's current market.

 

[megapenguinx]

Careful, kids may think that getting a RedRing on the 360 would make them 'hardcore' with that kind of logic. The Wii is the system that breaks the least in today's current market.

By that fact I mean, your system won't turn on at all anymore (not just RROD). I have yet to Meet anyone who has broken a this gen system by playing too much on one (I've messed up a GameCube by playing too much Smash Bros and messed up a PSX with too much Digimon world).

 

[Quaidis]

Careful, kids may think that getting a RedRing on the 360 would make them 'hardcore' with that kind of logic. The Wii is the system that breaks the least in today's current market.

By that fact I mean, your system won't turn on at all anymore (not just RROD). I have yet to Meet anyone who has broken a this gen system by playing too much on one (I've messed up a GameCube by playing too much Smash Bros and messed up a PSX with too much Digimon world).

I believe you can overheat a 360 and PS3 faster than a Wii. Game consoles in the past, not just the Wii, were extremely durable. I know that a gamecube is physically durable, but I've played games for hours on end on the nes, snes, sega master system, sega genesis, the first edition gameboy (white block with b/w graphics), and systems much older. Outside of maybe the debacle with the Atari controllers, only recent game systems break easily through actually using them outside of maybe the Wii.

edit: I believe the Wii is the most durable system in the market because it is the only one that is a solid gaming system. The others have fancy parts in them to play other things, especially the PS3 with that 'home entertainment system' garble that the creator went on about when it first came out.

another edit: It plays games, it plays dvds, it plays blu ray, you can access the internet, it makes Julienne fries, and it is yours NOW for ***.**!!! The UberGamePlayer! Get it now and you get a month of internet access and five, count them, five dvds! (Games not included.)

 

[Pimppeter2]

So you can ask. And so you can start a flamewar

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ORLY??? I am the Nintendo president who came out at launch and stated this is for casual gamers??? Give me a fuckin break.

Oh and you may want to go back and reread the OP. Cuz I never once said that only casual gamers play the Wii. Infact if your tiny little dinosaur brain had allowed you to read past the title I was kinda implying that the Wii isn't just for casual gamers. And was asking why they are always labelled as such.

If you could comprehend simple english you would have realized that I was saying

This topic has been done so many times that it's not even funny

It's been 4 fucken years. We all fucken know that the Wii is a system caters to casual gamers and hardcore ones as well.

A fucken autistic 5 year old knows this. Wake the fuck up.

Stop making threads like this. It's like those "Do video games make people violent" threads. We've all saif the same thing over and over agian. Use your fucken brain and come up with a topic worth discussing.

Ohh and for the record.

Use the fucken search bar

 

[nash_clovis]

You're going to see a lot more of these threads because of E3, to see if anyone changed their mind or something.