ok it seems kangaroo was all kinds of wrong, i guess since i dont play many games competitively im disconnected from this situation, still i dont think trolling should merit the same level of punishment hacking does
Why is trolling okay but hacking isn't?
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I looked up the recent article. It is worth reading and makes many good points.
Toxic players should not be treated like hackers, nor should they be ignored. Too often you hear of publisher using the 'ban hammer' to fight toxic communities but that is not a suitable tool. It is like doing an operation with a hammer instead of a scalpel, far to blunt and only able target the biggest, most visible issues.
First steps, developers need to build better tools than the ban hammer. Unfortunately, most developers and publishers, especially those with massive online communities, don't take this seriously at all.
Right now, the best example of a more subtle tool to detect trolls and toxic players is the Xbox rating system. The only problem is, no games utilize those ratings. At best, the Xbox's inherent matchmaking service will avoid paring you with players you've block but it won't keep you from getting paired with other toxic players until you personally have blocked them.
Going back to my example of Forza. Turn 10 has produced this game five times and all five iterations suffer from the exact same, and well known problem. Guys who think it is funny to intentionally crash other players. In a decade Turn 10 has made but one tweak to the game to remedy this - that was to ghost players driving backwards. Doesn't do much good when they are driving right into your rear end over and over.
Yet, industry wide you can look at the racing genre and pull examples like iRacing that has a very serious ratings model. The iRacing model is blind to who is guilty of causing the incident and assess all parties involved knowing over time this works out against the griefers. Then, the prohibit these toxic players from advancing into lobbies set aside for high rated players.
With such a raking system already in place at the Xbox's core, you would think it would be a no braining for all developers to use this tool to address the toxic gamer issue. Yet, publishers don't seem to care ... or at least not until they can directly see if impacting their bottom line.
With Xbox all a developer would need do is set aside some lobbies for highly rated players only. This doesn't ban toxic players from playing, it just sticks them in rooms with like minded fellows. While someone with a positive gamer rating can choose to play in the private rooms or not. In fact, I thought Titanfall PC was doing something similar to this already?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/11827-Theres-Nothing-Good-About-Toxic-Players
Toxic players should not be treated like hackers, nor should they be ignored. Too often you hear of publisher using the 'ban hammer' to fight toxic communities but that is not a suitable tool. It is like doing an operation with a hammer instead of a scalpel, far to blunt and only able target the biggest, most visible issues.
First steps, developers need to build better tools than the ban hammer. Unfortunately, most developers and publishers, especially those with massive online communities, don't take this seriously at all.
Right now, the best example of a more subtle tool to detect trolls and toxic players is the Xbox rating system. The only problem is, no games utilize those ratings. At best, the Xbox's inherent matchmaking service will avoid paring you with players you've block but it won't keep you from getting paired with other toxic players until you personally have blocked them.
Going back to my example of Forza. Turn 10 has produced this game five times and all five iterations suffer from the exact same, and well known problem. Guys who think it is funny to intentionally crash other players. In a decade Turn 10 has made but one tweak to the game to remedy this - that was to ghost players driving backwards. Doesn't do much good when they are driving right into your rear end over and over.
Yet, industry wide you can look at the racing genre and pull examples like iRacing that has a very serious ratings model. The iRacing model is blind to who is guilty of causing the incident and assess all parties involved knowing over time this works out against the griefers. Then, the prohibit these toxic players from advancing into lobbies set aside for high rated players.
With such a raking system already in place at the Xbox's core, you would think it would be a no braining for all developers to use this tool to address the toxic gamer issue. Yet, publishers don't seem to care ... or at least not until they can directly see if impacting their bottom line.
With Xbox all a developer would need do is set aside some lobbies for highly rated players only. This doesn't ban toxic players from playing, it just sticks them in rooms with like minded fellows. While someone with a positive gamer rating can choose to play in the private rooms or not. In fact, I thought Titanfall PC was doing something similar to this already?