They made early threatening noises about SOPA. Fortunately they have remained more or less quiet about it since, I don't think the internet really needs the kind of attention Anon generates at this point.
Why isn't Anonymous helping us against SOpa and PIPA
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Actually, that sort of is how it works. As a rule, governments don't give in to terrorists. If they do, that legitimises terror as a way of terrorists getting what they want.ResonanceGames said:
The example of this I have readily to hand is of the suffragettes in Britain (1911-ish) who commited terrorism (not killing, stuff like vandalism and burning post) to try and get women the vote. However, they actually turned a lot of MPs against the vote, and one of the reasons for this was because if the British government gave in to suffragette terrorism, that would make terrorism seem viable to the Irish nationalists.
This isn't the time for a community who can't be bothered to put a name to their actions, or take individual responsibility for them. This is a personal matter, an infringement upon our rights based on the written laws the country at least pretends to follow. Treating us as faceless drones is how fools like this can propose such bills in the first place; we need to put a name and face to everyone that opposes it, we need to remind them that we are more than just sources from which they withdraw money. Being obnoxious, anonymous assholes is far from how to prevent an issue such as this from becoming worse.
Of course, if the civil and diplomatic approach doesn't work, if treating them like human beings when they couldn't be bothered to consider us as such in the first place doesn't convince them... Well, let's just say that what a bunch of anonymous assholes will do to make their lives miserable will be something I'm no longer in a position to criticize. The advocates of these bills would perhaps do well to bear that in mind themselves.
Of course, if the civil and diplomatic approach doesn't work, if treating them like human beings when they couldn't be bothered to consider us as such in the first place doesn't convince them... Well, let's just say that what a bunch of anonymous assholes will do to make their lives miserable will be something I'm no longer in a position to criticize. The advocates of these bills would perhaps do well to bear that in mind themselves.
They have been pitting in as we all have, by signing petitions. That's all they can do at the moment without making things worse, they know that this bill is the shit.
They will absolutely slaughter it if it passes though...
They will absolutely slaughter it if it passes though...
I'd say we're doing well enough on our own. Let them sit this one out, they can unleash hell if it does pass. (Consider it the chemical warfare option if you will.)
There likely staying out of this because they know that with their reputation their presence would likely do more harm that good, though most anon's are privately doing their part to support the anti-SOPA movement. Course if it passes you can expect that anon will be at the forefront of the shitstorm that will break out across the internet.
because it'll be supper ineffective... more specifically the case that happened in Finland not too long ago... anonymous got jack shit(pardon my language) done with their threats and actions
The government hates them and their presence would harm this cause.
Also, I don't think they've done anything helpful in ages. I'm not entirely sure they've done anything in ages.
Also, I don't think they've done anything helpful in ages. I'm not entirely sure they've done anything in ages.
Wasn't "Operation Blackout" (the websites shutting down on the 18th) originally anonymous's idea?
I'm glad they aren't. They wouldn't be helpful, they would be damaging to the cause. Whatever Anon could or will do, the Electronic Frontier Organization (the one that let you send an automatic letter, signed with your name to your congressman, if you lived in the states) have already done it a million times better. The entire Black Out was a million times better than whatever Anon can do as well.
Please, stay out of this. It will only serve to discredit the cause.
Please, stay out of this. It will only serve to discredit the cause.
Anonymous getting involved would ensure SOPA gets past. They are as much enemies of the internet as SOPA.
I'd like to give you an answer in the form of V For Vendetta, as in the Alan Moore comic. You see, whether or not Anonymous thinks they're a load of Vs or just a big load...and regardless of whether or not they actually have their rather tenuous act together, they have to know that this is the part where you have to let The People act. This is not their stage. This is the people-stand-up-for-their-rights scene. If they show up now, it's ill-timed. To listen to the masses for their opinion - and there IS a big mass involved - is the carrot. Anonymous is the stick. It's an ugly stick, but that's what they are.Orinon said:
Put simply, this is the part where politicians get shocked by how much the public is against them. This is the time in which the common man stands shoulder to shoulder on a crowded street in protest. This is where a man marches up to a pedestal and makes a speech that starts with the historic words "I have a meme...". If Anonymous were to show up AS Anonymous, there would be alot of...
...reactionary nonsense and all logic or sense would be thrown out the windows as guns are drawn and they fire into the crowd.
Of course it'd do more harm then good, but since when has Anonymous ever had the the collective intelligence or wisdom required to realize that??seraphy said:
As long as it keeps going the right way without them, though if it do passes, I hope they'll be the spearhead in the virtual holocaust to come.
Maybe I'd even go get me one of them masks.
Maybe I'd even go get me one of them masks.