Why isn't Anonymous helping us against SOpa and PIPA

[KeyMaster45]

*snip*

Anonymous is basically just a group of pranksters. They run around the digital neighborhood tp'ing houses and leaving flaming bags of shit on people's doorstep. They do it for the lulz, and while SOPA has many lulz to be had, they can all be garnered without vandalizing a website or phoning in death threats and pizzas to a senator.

Let me ask you something OP, exactly what do you want them to do? Looking at their track record they're not exactly a political force to be reckoned with. They're just nerds on the internet looking for an idiot's shoes to piss on and then laugh in their face.

 

[whiteshark12]

Anonymous can't do anything that will be useful as it's composed of people who don't understand normal human interaction. All they will do is ensure the pro-SOPA people use the "DONT GIVE IN TO THE TERRORISTS!!!!1!" and as such it will pass unanimously.

 

[Teddy Roosevelt]

First off, Congress can't impose laws on other nations, and it isn't. SOPA isn't going to extend to other nations. That should be a no-brainer, but whatever...

More importantly, Anonymous doesn't have the firepower to make the US government and its agencies really truly sweat. Keep in mind, the United States and affiliated defense contractors are working to maintain superiority on the cyber battlefield as they are on the physical battlefield. If we're working so hard to keep up with what China might be able to do to our networks and infrastructure, what is Anonymous going to do when the NSA kicks the door in and tears them down one cell at a time without breaking a sweat?

 

[Flames66]

I think they are wise to stay out of this, their reputation is not exactly stellar among some people so their help might just muddle the issue. Not to mention that their help is not really even needed here.

They are helping. There are videos by them raising awareness and explaining the legislation. (I think it is by them, hard to tell).

By the way everyone, check out ACTA. It is along the same lines but international and being talked about in secret. http://www.stopacta.info/

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Seriously, They've occasionally been dicks and have definitely done stuff to gain the hate of many.
But These two acts are the sum of everything they hate, if they attacked Jean Simmons because went against their ideals, why aren't they attacking something that threatens to destroy the internet by massive Censorship.
Oh and here's another thing
on a different train of thought Who the hell does the US congress think its is? the internet is everywhere, like in Canada. SO they are imposing on international affairs, seriously this isn't legal.

I'd like to give you an answer in the form of V For Vendetta, as in the Alan Moore comic. You see, whether or not Anonymous thinks they're a load of Vs or just a big load...and regardless of whether or not they actually have their rather tenuous act together, they have to know that this is the part where you have to let The People act. This is not their stage. This is the people-stand-up-for-their-rights scene. If they show up now, it's ill-timed. To listen to the masses for their opinion - and there IS a big mass involved - is the carrot. Anonymous is the stick. It's an ugly stick, but that's what they are.

Put simply, this is the part where politicians get shocked by how much the public is against them. This is the time in which the common man stands shoulder to shoulder on a crowded street in protest. This is where a man marches up to a pedestal and makes a speech that starts with the historic words "I have a meme...". If Anonymous were to show up AS Anonymous, there would be alot of...


...reactionary nonsense and all logic or sense would be thrown out the windows as guns are drawn and they fire into the crowd.

This. Anon are seen as a criminal movement among the big wigs. The internet shutting down and all these messages are seen as the citizens moving. If Anon were to act, it might convince them that we are being misled and that by passing the bills they are protecting us.

Getting the public moving and angry? Politicians listen. Anon coming in and messing with EVERYONE'S shit? Not so good in this situation.

 

[Ranorak]

So Annon DDOS a few sites and posts some data online?
What's that going to do?

That's today's equivalent as sending prank calls and pizza orders to the senate.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Because Anonymous isn't a public organization with legitimate pull in politics or business.
What are they going to do? DDoS Congress?

Yeah, I'm sure that'd make a real convincing argument against getting PIPA passed.

 

[Vykrel]

they are now. the government illegally shut down MegaUpload and arrested four staff members (who were in New Zealand at the time). Anonymous has responded by taking down as many government sites and SOPA supporter's sites as they can.

https://twitter.com/#!/AnonDaily

some of the sites are back up right now, but theyll probably be taken down again in a matter of time.

 

[liz5100]

Everyone rules around criticizing them for everything they do, so why bother anymore? Besides don't you think they're busy and already are? They've dumped tons into Occupy movements. They have been shouting their heads off for years. Hell they should get props for being good enough people not to be handing out I-told-you-so's as if they were free mints.

What really boggles my mind is how anyone can say that the two (anons and SOPA and company) are 'just as bad for the internet'? Really someone explain this to me, not say it or shout it again. An honest explanation in as non-biased a form as possible.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Because acting now would only give pro-SOPA activists more ammunition. If SOPA passes, Anonymous will take necessary (and radical) action. Trust me.

 

[RaikuFA]

Seriously, They've occasionally been dicks and have definitely done stuff to gain the hate of many.
But These two acts are the sum of everything they hate, if they attacked Jean Simmons because went against their ideals, why aren't they attacking something that threatens to destroy the internet by massive Censorship.
Oh and here's another thing
on a different train of thought Who the hell does the US congress think its is? the internet is everywhere, like in Canada. SO they are imposing on international affairs, seriously this isn't legal.

They already said they're going after Sony, MS, Ninty, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga and Kim Kardashian for supporting this bill.

 

[Kuhkren]

Hold on a second. They did raise awareness on 4chan with links about SOPA and the song "ro ro fight the power" playing nonstop. This was about a month or so ago, but they did try to get as many people involved as possible through the website.

 

[esperandote]

Maybe they think people and websites are doing enough noise on their own.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Why isn't Anonymous helping us against SOpa and PIPA

Have you seen the internet at this very moment?

Try accessing Universal, WMG or other sites.

Also check on hashtag #j18 or #megaupload.

 

[triggrhappy94]

No one in Anonymous has the time with school.
Their activity completely dropped off when high school and college started back up.

 

[CorvusFerreum]

I think Anonymous knows, that them taking action now would just gibe ammunition to SOPA- and PIPA-supporters.

But the gods may help those who stood behind SOPA, if it gets pass. For that part I count on them.

Also: They are helping by spreading the and, as far as I remember, bringing forward the idea for the blackout.

 

[Lilani]

Seriously, They've occasionally been dicks and have definitely done stuff to gain the hate of many.
But These two acts are the sum of everything they hate, if they attacked Jean Simmons because went against their ideals, why aren't they attacking something that threatens to destroy the internet by massive Censorship.
Oh and here's another thing
on a different train of thought Who the hell does the US congress think its is? the internet is everywhere, like in Canada. SO they are imposing on international affairs, seriously this isn't legal.

I think it's two things. One, neither SOPA nor PIPA have passed.

And two, because of that, anything they do would cause more harm than good. Think about it: the vast majority of people (and ESPECIALLY news outlets) do not trust Anonymous. We're rather literate in the ways of the Internet, so we know better. But everyone else sees them as anarchistic cyber-terrorists out to cause trouble above all else. So anything Anonymous gets behind is automatically going to lose credibility.

They're aware of this image, so they're lying low for the time being so that the Internet can get as little negative press as possible. Anything they do right now will only give the supporters of SOPA and PIPA even more ammo to use against us, allowing them to not only say this is a crime problem but a cyber-security problem. Which is total nonsense, yes, but the ignorant public won't know the difference and it'll be enough to do a lot of damage.

 

[boag]

Seriously, They've occasionally been dicks and have definitely done stuff to gain the hate of many.
But These two acts are the sum of everything they hate, if they attacked Jean Simmons because went against their ideals, why aren't they attacking something that threatens to destroy the internet by massive Censorship.
Oh and here's another thing
on a different train of thought Who the hell does the US congress think its is? the internet is everywhere, like in Canada. SO they are imposing on international affairs, seriously this isn't legal.

Because the law hasnt passed.

Also, the anon hangouts already link to the ANTI SOPA nad PIPA sites.

furthermore, anon is broad term, it is not a singular group of hackers on steroids.

 

[backinthepresentfuture]

ultimately we're all fucked because of government. so i could care less as to how this all works out, it's a shame the governments gotten this powerful in the first place.