Why must people try to assume a position of moral authority based on the silliest things?

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Aerodyamic

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So, every week or so, I see yet ANOTHER thread about how my being a smoker kills babies, makes kittens cry, shatters lives, will cause plagues of locusts to descend upon the earth, and generally will cause the universe to divide by zero. While I don't mind people having an opinion of my habits, since I'd be a hypocrite to claim I didn't judge the habits of others, I'm getting tired of people that insist that they have some reason to feel morally superior to me, because they don't smoke, and I do.

Fine, I get it, your body is a freaking temple, and you're the first of a new, perfectly healthy generation of humankind, and it's obvious that my weak-willed, slavering, smoke-tainted genetics wouldn't even be compatible with your obvious superior ones. Great, I'm evil, and I'll forever be damned and made a pariah, reduced to shambling about the edges of society, with a giant red letter S pinned to the shoulder of my shirt.

Could we get over this whiny shit sometime soon? Seriously, I don't like it when people like the Westboro Baptist Church start screaming and frothing about whatever their cause of the month is, and all the non-smokers on these forums seem to behave in a dangerously similar manner: frothing fanaticism and neurotic hatred. None of us like to have things jammed down our throats, and yet, just like a psychologically damaged, doom-screaming street-preaching, so many of you seem like your ready to start screaming obscenities, casting stones and tearing out your own hair, because I choose to smoke.

So, I've decided to be (relatively) adult about my growing disgust at this assumption of moral superiority that I see at LEAST once a week here: I challenge any of you to PROVABLY demonstrate that you have a minimal environmental and moral impact, by going down the following list and PROVING that:

  • you don't drive
    you don't buys things that have to be transported to you by non-green vehicles
    you don't pay taxes towards road and transportation upkeep
    you don't get your power from a coal-burning power plant
    you don't (knowingly or unknowingly) support clear-cutting, the oil-sands, or resource-harvesting corporations
    you don't eat fast food
    you don't buy cosmetic products or consumer good that are made of, tested, or otherwise harm animals
    you don't have a dwelling that remains weather-proof due to oil-based products
    you don't produce any sewage or waste that goes into the river and lakes, or must be transported to a landfill
    you don't maintain your dwelling, or allow it to be maintained using gas or electric landscaping methods, or non-natural products.

I could make that list go on for pages, but I hope by now you've started to notice that a ridiculously small percentage of the people that insist on crying about how 'smoking condemns everyone around the smoker to a slow, painful death' aren't nearly as 'morally superior' as they've convinced themselves. Lots of people have a much greater environmental impact that any smoker, let alone a group of them.

Yes, you're all shining beacons of self-control and virtue, and you'll all lead exemplary lives, but I really don't give a shit if my smoking offends you; the chances are that if you meet me while I'm smoking, I'm outside, and you're perfectly free to just move away from my terrible exhaust products. That said, if you're willing to be at least reasonably polite about your distaste concerning my habit, I'll generally be courteous in return; hell, I might even stub out my cigarette to talk to you, or refuse to smoke while you're in my vehicle or home.

But leave your self-righteous, ignorant, and self-congratulatory proselytizing at home, because I will just tell you to take your offensive and bigoted hate-mongering elsewhere. I'm already in a minority, so don't imagine that my bad habit is actually that cataclysmic, or that your whining will accomplish anything more than getting me mad at you.
 
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I don't drive because I'm too lazy to get my license.

I have little or no control over the rest. Well except fast food... got to love Burger King.

I am not morally superior. Just largely uninterested.
 

delet

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Yes, it's fine to disagree or dislike something, but to put yourself on a pedestal above those who do what you dislike is simply idiotic. I'm not a smoker, I don't like cigarettes at all. I will commonly hold my breath at the first hint of someone smoking near by and not release my breath till I've passed by. Even so, I don't make it my 'mission from god' to 'rid the world of these vial, fuming creatures.' I simply remove myself from the smoke.
 

Marv21

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Its human nature to become moral because that is socially acceptable blame not all the people who follow it because they are only doing whats socially acceptable, I would instead blame the society that forces people to choose sides in an one sided issue because of morality.
 

similar.squirrel

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It would be very easy to dismiss this as the ranting of a slighted addict. I am a smoker, by the way.
true, fanatical anti-smokers are annoying self-righteous pedants, but addiction is also kind of pathetic, especially when it makes one smell like a..a smoker, I guess. It's distinctive.
 

Raven's Nest

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Yeah well... Smoking is pretty dirty ya know? Haters gonna hate...

You can either rip your hair out getting pissed off with self-righteous pricks (wouldn't bother with that because you'll become an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object) or just give them a glazed look and walk on by... As the great Dr Okeer would say "The greatest insult an enemy can recieve, is to be ignored"...
 

Snowden's Secret

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Anyone who deliberately gets on a metaphorical high horse and parade around on it frankly deserves to be pushed off it. So, yes, I agree.
 

Kimarous

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Okay, OP... when you deem the risks of second-hand smoke as "the silliest things", you have officially lost all credibility. Look, if you want to suck on tar and ruin your lungs, that's your business, but second-hand smoke has caused many people suffering. Bitching about people vocalizing legitimate concerns is just dickish.
 

Aerodyamic

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zHellas said:
...Discussion value?
More than you've contributed thus far, obviously.

I don't object to people that disagree with my choices, but considering the actual second-hand harm of my smoking in a public, outdoor area is nil, I DO object t0 being treated like I'm some kind of serial rapist.
 

meticadpa

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I don't have a problem with smoking, as long as you don't try and inflict your smoke on me or others.
 

Thebiggestpanda

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Oh noes! A smoker! Quick, everyone leave the thread before it pulls out a cig:p
In all seriousness, I don't believe in the whole "we're hurting the environment" crap. I also don't eat fast food cause I'm a bodybuilder. Smoking is really a personal choice and I'd be quicker to nag you for hurting your own personal health rather than your impact on the environment. That being said, I never nag anyone about that kinda stuff unless they actually come out and tell me they wanna change. If they're fine with what ever they do then so am I.
 

jasoncyrus

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Aerodyamic said:
I think of myself not morally superior to you, simply...superior in a survival instinct manner.

Since smoking is simply poisoning yourself and you are doing that and I'm not...get the picture?

I ***** not because I'm moral...but because i'm fucking sick of having to wait even longer for hospital treatment because some douchebag smoker with cancer or w/e is taking up a bed/using the oxygen tanks.

So yeah..smoke if you want, just don't get any medical care and we'll be great friends.
 

Actual

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I agree with the OP. There is a large number of otherwise sensible people who become whiny little bitches about this.

And they want everyone to know that they do not approve.

I'm a non-smoker, and I feel like taking it up after listening to these idiots preach.