Why no games on Steam?
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Oh for the love of.... Fine, I'll say it again, you agreed to the ToS that pretty much said exactly this. If you shut down your email however want to still access it of course you can't because you just said you gave it up. You broke this or that term that was pretty much screaming "HEY, YOU BREAK ME, YOU LOSE YOUR ACCOUNT" and your surprised you don't have your games.
Its a DRM also, which is why you can't connect without connecting to steams network first.
Its a DRM also, which is why you can't connect without connecting to steams network first.
That doesn't happen anymore. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30324377&postcount=50Cranyx said:
Valve is a pretty good company I must say.
I've read the post, and while Gabe said that they could and MIGHT remove DRM for all Valve games that you've purchased, they would have no right to remove DRM from other companies' games. they might still remove the steam authentication process, but not the DRM.Da Orky Man said:
Keep in mind that they are not obligated in any way to do this, Gabe just said they could.
Eh most software has been like this for a long time,, it isn't something new hence why I'm not up in arms or anything.
Antivirus like Mcafee, Norton, NOD32 etc are all just licenses to use their product, same thing with stuff like FRAPS, Photoshop etc (assuming you have a legit copy).
Antivirus like Mcafee, Norton, NOD32 etc are all just licenses to use their product, same thing with stuff like FRAPS, Photoshop etc (assuming you have a legit copy).
You don't get what I am saying. If Valve gives the world cracked copies of games that are only months old and are still full price don't you think the developers of these games might want to fight it and stop valve from doing it?Easton Dark said:
All you would need is some guys old steam password and a copy of steam and the game files. Free 70 dollar game.
People can get cracked copies of games from so many sites already. Sometimes before they're even released. It won't change much, if anything.Fieldy409 said:
I defy you to find me a $70 game.
By selling licenses instead of copies (limited by licenses that nobody bothers reading), they save money by not making physical copies of limited quantity and can sell their games for a cheaper price, which is done by sales. The prices are the main reason I use Steam.
Steam can terminate accounts, but if they abuse their ability to do so, they'll lose many customers - those who got banned, and those who realize that they might be next.
Steam can terminate accounts, but if they abuse their ability to do so, they'll lose many customers - those who got banned, and those who realize that they might be next.
Digital distribution is not going away. Steam is not going away. Even if Valve goes under for whatever crazy reason you can rest assured that Steam will power on. Either as a separate independent entity or as an asset that is owned and maintained by the industry as a whole. People crying that it could end any day and everyone will lose all their games underestimate the combined power of the community and industry as a whole. Even in the impossible situation that Steam is abandoned and dumped outright the community will work very fast to bypass authentication. In fact they do so already to pirate games. With no one to oppose them it will be very easy to implement a permanent solution.
Which is why no developers worry about piracy at all.Easton Dark said:
There would be lawsuits, there would be a shitstorm of them!
Edit: just saw your edit, sorry I am in Australia, last game I bought on steam was seventy Australian dollars(and that's cheap compared to brick and mortar stores)
Doubting it so heavily. Pretty sure even companies have to sign something from Valve to get their game on Steam.Fieldy409 said:
If they want to risk the extremely high number of sales for a week, and then have one service providing their game shut down, they should be able to.
Actually, that'd be a good business move I think.
Well, it kind of already happens. Homeowners for instance.. don't even "own" their homes. The bank owns their property, and in tandem with real-estate companies they set rules and regulations on what needs to be done to keep your home "of value". They tell you what you're allowed to do with your property, how high your grass needs to be, what you can plant in your yard, etc.Dendio said:
Then the town you live in can just come by and say, "We're building condos here, you need to move. Sorry."
Not every place is like this.. but it's "enough".
Well technically speaking every piece of software on the planet is licensed not sold, well closed-source software anyway, and that includes all games whether you get them on disk, or via Digital Download.
I guess I don't really get this... What are you gaining? A physical copy of the game? A few pieces of printed materials that add next to zero value unless you get some sort of special edition? Maybe some peace of mind that you can install the game, anywhere?Matt King said:
EDIT: (BTW, I asked these questions specifically because there is reasonable comparisons directly to a digital distribution platform.)
With software there really isn't ownership from a consumer stand point, only usage rights. What I think would be the best of all world would be to have multiple services like Steam, but with actual transferable license possession; Similar to buying game on Steam and using it's license to activate the same game on Origin (C&C IV, BF:BC2, etc.). This way it wouldn't matter what service you use because if the game was on another platform, you could use it there.
It's totally unrealistic because of the problem with advertising exposure and exclusives amongst other issues that arise when you have actual competition in a market (See; XBox vs PS3). Mind you, I'm not saying that I don't support Steam or Origin or whoever steps up to the digital distribution arena, but like many have said many times before, once you are committed to buying games on a platform, having to then have multiple platforms to have to purchase games makes the experience convoluted for players and only really benefits the studio. I married Steam 8 years ago and was forced to use Origin for BF3, which just means that I have to launch Origin to play BF3. I'd still play BF;BC2 on Steam because it's always open, one less click, even though I also have the license on Origin.
On the other hand, and this is all speculative, I think you would be well within your rights to crack the files to make it functional. Mainly because it would fall under some sort of law that says that you paid for the license and deserve to have use even though Steam has died.Cranyx said:
On a side note, Steam would no longer exist so they couldn't object to you violating Terms of Service because there would be no Steam to do so.
