The whole "animal that talks" deal got sidelined after Dragon Ball got Z'd. Like Oolong and Puar and Roshi's turtle.
I dunno. Big role-poly harmless looking Buu was probably Toriyama's idea, it's right up his alley. But all of the "now Buu is leaner and meaner" stuff maybe not. And I get the feeling he was done with Goku as a character, but wasn't allowed by editors (or fans) to switch focus to Gohan or Goten.SweetShark said:Very interesting I must admit. Thank you for telling me.
So in Buu Saga the original Villain was the Red Devil with the blue suit?
That remind me, what happened with the Indian [I think] child which Goku wanted to teach him in the end DZ?altnameJag said:I dunno. Big role-poly harmless looking Buu was probably Toriyama's idea, it's right up his alley. But all of the "now Buu is leaner and meaner" stuff maybe not. And I get the feeling he was done with Goku as a character, but wasn't allowed by editors (or fans) to switch focus to Gohan or Goten.SweetShark said:Very interesting I must admit. Thank you for telling me.
So in Buu Saga the original Villain was the Red Devil with the blue suit?
Uub? Unless he shows up in GT, I dunno. Never watched that series.SweetShark said:That remind me, what happened with the Indian [I think] child which Goku wanted to teach him in the end DZ?altnameJag said:I dunno. Big role-poly harmless looking Buu was probably Toriyama's idea, it's right up his alley. But all of the "now Buu is leaner and meaner" stuff maybe not. And I get the feeling he was done with Goku as a character, but wasn't allowed by editors (or fans) to switch focus to Gohan or Goten.SweetShark said:Very interesting I must admit. Thank you for telling me.
So in Buu Saga the original Villain was the Red Devil with the blue suit?
Wait seriously? I have to admit, that that would explain why there were so many asspulls throughout that arc. There is no reason for cell to magically appear, or for everyone to be dumb enough to allow him to become supercell.altnameJag said:Change in tone and some overbearing editorial decisions most likely.
EDIT: To elaborate an example, you know Androids 19 and 20?
They were supposed to be the bad guys for the android arc. You can kinda tell Andriod 20 didn't start out as being Dr. Gero if you listen to his early dialogue.
Editorial didn't like that, so Toriyama had to have 16, 17, and 18 replace them. Which I'm glad he did, because they were awesome. But they weren't bad guy enough for the editors. So we get time-traveling, power absorbing Cell...but he's to bug like, so Toriyama had to have him evolve. Then Semi-perfect Cell was too British, and etc. Makes me wonder how many new bad guys and forms they made Toriyama come up with in the Buu saga. Which bad guys were his original idea and which did he make because Editorial wanted something cooler.
Yeh he shows up in GT though his role is kinda minor. I think of him as Gohan v2.0, a massive deal is made about him and how incredibly strong he is, but he ends up playing a much smaller role in resolving crises then you'd expect. Except gohan at least managed to beat cell (albeit with some help from ghost dad), uub's career highlight if memory serves is midly annoying one of the big bads in GT then getting swatted away like some annoying insect.altnameJag said:Uub? Unless he shows up in GT, I dunno. Never watched that series.SweetShark said:That remind me, what happened with the Indian [I think] child which Goku wanted to teach him in the end DZ?
Wasn't Launch one of the biggest victims of this?Diablo2000 said:Knowing a bit about Dragon Ball's history, I think is entirely possible that Akira Toryama and the rest of the studio simply forgot that they exist. That and the shift in tone of Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z\Dragon Ball Super made so that they would look even sillier.
They finally wised up and kicked them out.SweetShark said:A strange question really and I obviously stopped watching DB/DBZ long time ago, but I need to ask anyway for curiosity...
So I remember in the very early years of DB there where normal to be Furries among the citizens:
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But at some point there were gone!!! Like *poof*, now only normal humans with the exceptions of some major characters....I think?
Why this really big change suddendly?