Why PC gamers should love (or at least not hate) consoles

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CleverNickname

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Hating "The Consoles" is extremely silly. I grew up on a console. Not just A Console, but The Best Console in the History of Mankind: The SNES. I still play SNES games. On my PC. Because I can. Because a PC is awesome like that. It can be other consoles.

No PC Gamer should ever hate on the Nintendos. They have no impact on our gaming whatsoever. The only downside to Nintendo games is that they are never ported to PCs! Come on, we want to play NSMBW on more than 20 emulated frames per second.

The Playstations barely had more effect. We share a good number of titles, especially during the PSX and PS2 eras. One of them was Sands of Time, one of the best games ever. Would that even have gotten made without the Playstation? And as the counter to Nintendo's eternal kid-friendliness, our violent gorefests became more accepted - thank you, Resident Evil.

The Consoles were either irrelevant (in a good way) or even helpful.

Then came the XBox. Specifically Halo. They wanted a big important shooter on their new brick of mediocre hardware, but had to make it work on that clumsy clumsy controller. All they had to do was radically change the way you play a shooter until all you had to worry about was pulling the trigger when an enemy happened to be in your crosshairs (because actual aiming is impossible) and taking cover every .7 seconds. The rest happened on its own, because they ran out of buttons for that, after assiging a whole 2 and a half weapons to them!

Once they made enough ignorant fools buy this shrine to simplicity for this magical thing called online multiplayer, they mistook it for great success. Worse, this convinced them that they did something on their console that was thought to be the domain of the PC before. Naturally, this meant the XBox was pretty much a replacement for the PC. Everything that works on the Box will work on the PC, too. So clearly, we only need to work on the Box-version now, the PC version will practically make itself.

That wasn't an issue for Halo, cuz it never came out on PC (oh it did? No PC Gamer noticed!). But everyone and their dog promptly made Box-games, because for some inexplaicable reason it meant easy money. Nobody cared that since then PC Gamers had to put up with all the stupidity that survived the "port" from the Boxes, because money. One of the earliest and still one of the worst offenders is Oblivion with the worst, needlessly clunky, huge-lettered inventory system in history. You'd think someone would have taken notice, but nothing changed in the slightest. If anything it became worse.

Health regenerates because looking at the floor is hard; menus are a pain in the ass because more than 4 on-screen directions are complicated; 17 actions are mapped to the same key/button because you only have 10, 6 of which are reserved for pointless melee attacks; quicksaving is dying out because... um... yeah, WHY is quicksaving dying out - you have fucking hard drives! ... oh I know, quicksaving is dying out because repeating the same shit 17 times from the same goddamn checkpoint hides the fact that our greybrown game is only 3 hours long; we need to scour the internet for custom cfg/ini-files if we dare to have a controller other than the 360's - which we then cannot reconfigure; graphics have looked the same for 7 years because copying motion controls is cheaper than starting a whole new generation. I literally cannot think of one good thing the XBoxes brought to Gaming as a whole, let alone to PC Gaming. Microsoft, Activision and EA are richer, but our glorious hobby is definitely poorer for it.

So yeah.
It's definitely silly to hate on The Consoles. It is, however, perfectly natural when PC Gamers criticize trends in gaming brought on by the XBoxes, and the XBoxes alone.
 

RA92

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CleverNickname said:
It's definitely silly to hate on The Consoles. It is, however, perfectly natural when PC Gamers criticize trends in gaming brought on by the XBoxes, and the XBoxes alone.
This. This so much.

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike you XBox gamers, but I hated how Microsoft conducted the XBox's promotion - buying out developers and holding back games from the PC. Overnight, I didn't have Crimson Skies 2 and Midtown Madness 3 on my platform for this new kid in the block. Fuck that.

Also, I greatly dislike how the FPS genre has evolved. DNF now has 2 weapon limit, and you need to aim down your sights in Serious Sam 3. I mean, really?
 

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arragonder said:
Leole said:
A mac is not the ultimate gaming console >.>
Either way I'd be happy to see only the portable consoles left and the rest going to PC.
.. Ehm, where did I mention a Mac? I really don't see how my post and Apple are related, would you mind elaborating?
 

Leole

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arragonder said:
Or a pre-built PC, or a Laptop, or a gaming console. You're generalizing.

Pre-built PCs come with a specific selection of hardware/accessories, which may be upgraded later on, open OS.

Laptops also come with a specific hardware, that can too be upgraded, and open OS.

Gaming Consoles on the other hand, cannot be upgraded, and the OS is closed.

I didn't meant Apple at all. I meant that eventually Consoles and PCs will merge into one. I don't know how you interpreted that as "Mac is the ultimate gaming console".
 

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Here's the issue I have with accepting a console as a "PC".
Sony makes the Playstation 3.
Microsoft makes the Xbox 360.
Nintendo makes the Wii.
______ makes the PC.


The amazing thing here is, you CANNOT fill in that blank.

All those previously mentioned companies control their own platform to no end. Once you've paid the $150-$300 entry fee, there is no competition. Xbox Live could one day decide to charge $100 a month for Gold. You couldn't decide "That's stupid, I'll switch to another online service." You already paid for your 360, and have to keep going with them.
They also control who can create games on the platform. Nintendo blocked someone from making a superb DS game simply because he made it entirely on his own and thought it wasn't high quality (sounds ridiculous, but he did actually make something substantial)

You can argue Microsoft controls the Windows scene, but that's still only a part of it. There's browser games (controlled by Adobe? Sort of?), Linux and Mac games (still incomparable, but growing), etc. Microsoft themselves still have to "compete" on their own operating system. And if they get draconian with Windows, then the shift would be to other systems; no one is forced to use Games for Windows Live, Steam, or anything.

Now, I'm sure I come off as a nerd complaining about "the man keeping us down" when I say that it's a problem when one company controls something. But it does come back to the idea of competition. Each PC game and service developer has to keep in mind they're competing with someone else. GFWL is horribly unsuccessful because people choose to use another service - Steam. Many PC games hit massive boycotts because they don't support dedicated servers, whereas other games do. People have to provide free DLC because Valve set that standard - something they CANNOT do on their 360 version of TF2.

On the PC, it is much easier to vote with your wallet. I can see the reasoning behind consoles getting more and more PC features, but when you look at the PC features you cannot replicate (not being owned by anyone) you may as well make the jump at some point.
 

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Consoles are gonna go the way of the Dodo anyways, and so will PC games. Browser games will inevitably take their place as a sort of ubiquitous multi-platform alternative, and those will likely get either kicked to the curve or absorbed by the Cloud. Either way, i think we're seeing the last that consoles have to offer us.
 

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i am a PC gamer because my dad would not buy me playstation but did buy me a PC so we could play age of empires against each other(he let me win). I love that guy.
I don't hate consoles though, i quite like them, through a stroke of luck i own both a psp and a DS, which are consoles, and do understand the appeal of gaming from my couch. Except for multiplayer FPS. Ignoring the fact that i can't aim with a controller if my life depended on it (i have an average accuracy of 85% with the sniper in tf2 so i am not quite a noob either) i just couldn't focus sitting on my couch, i prefer my comfy office chair. Then again that is only my opinion.
The only that bugs me is when a game that would sell well is not released on all platforms(looking at you, rockstar) or when companies turn their backs on loyal fans of 10+ years for Microsoft cash.
I do get platform exclusives (at least timed) but whenever a game is released on only two of the three HD-enabled platforms it makes my blood boil.
 

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Katana314 said:
Here's the issue I have with accepting a console as a "PC".
Sony makes the Playstation 3.
Microsoft makes the Xbox 360.
Nintendo makes the Wii.
______ makes the PC.


The amazing thing here is, you CANNOT fill in that blank.
^So true. And this is because PCs are general purpose machines WITH the ability to run console games in a technical sense and thus, companies would find it easier to push their games toward the specialized consoles. The most noticeable thing here though is that PC's evolve technically much faster than consoles due to their extreme flexibility (paraphrasing a previous poster with the 'Frankenstein' metaphor), and thus PC gamers have the urgency to feel this rushed urge within themselves (including me ofc).
 

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I'll always be a console boy. I don't want to worry about whether the graphics card can handle it or whether someone else wants to to use the PC. With a console, I can play any game on the system without worrying.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
if we didnt have to worry about shoddy pc ports I would agree but when the people do to the UI forget that pc users have a mouse wheel, that shit is just annoying
 

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Dexter111 said:
CleverNickname said:
No PC Gamer should ever hate on the Nintendos. They have no impact on our gaming whatsoever. The only downside to Nintendo games is that they are never ported to PCs! Come on, we want to play NSMBW on more than 20 emulated frames per second.
I'm not sure when you last checked Dolphin but with a Sandy Bridge CPU even Mario Galaxy 2 is fully playable at 1080p with 60FPS e.g.
I last checked last week :p I meant to go through some settings today, but now I found something on TV and am on my mom's laptop during commercial breaks. I guessed it was perfectly possible, but it's not quite as easy as regular gaming now, is it?

Also, who is Sandy Bridge? (haha, get it, cuz it sounds like a name :p)
 

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Consoles force developers to find new ways to squeeze out better visuals out of an outdated system. That translates to the PC too. Otherwise, I generally dislike the trend of simplifying games.
 

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I'm a PC gamer and I love consoles because they force game companies to make games for old hardware. While this should be a bad thing, it means I don't have to replace parts for my computer nearly as often as some people say so in PC vs. Console arguments.
 

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I'm a console gamer because of all the technical issues I encountered on PC. Games just broke too often to make the PC a viable gaming platform for me. However, some PC gamers seem to think I harbor a personal vendetta against their platform, and go out of their way to disparage consoles, console games, and any developers who design games specifically for consoles.
 

ZombieGenesis

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How about because I also own all the consoles :) ?
Sure my £800 PC can blow the earth out from under anything else (6970 graphics OC'd) but consoles have their upsides- mainly local multiplayer, since I don't own two USB controllers for the PC. So yeah! There's that.