Have you never seen James Bond? People with proper British accents blow the Russians and Germans out of the water!Sixcess said:
Why Russia?
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Because it's prefectly acceptable to widow a Russian mother, but not to kill a madman who thinks he's going to get an infinite number of virgins for the rest of his life if he blows himself up and takes a few non-believers with him. Russians are far worse then that, they're RUSSIAN! Also, it's okay to play as the Russians killing whatever the supposed good guys are, because it's just accepted that that's what Russians do. Bah.
Splinter Cell - Chaos Theory and Homefront, which is released in a while.AwesomePeanutz said:
More to the point: My guess would be that, as mentioned earlier, Russia is still considered one of the few which could still be a match to the US/Nato. It's VERY unlikely that US and NATO would ever go to war AGAINST each other, so that pretty much leaves Russia and China as possible invaders against the US or Europe. China has been used a few times as the "bad guys", but I guess there's still some bad blood going on between Russia and the US, which is why Russia is almost always picked. Don't quote me on this, but iirc, China hasn't invaded someone in quite a while, no? Russia, on the other hand, are in constant conflict in Chechnya, and "invaded" Georgia not so long ago. Tbh, the reason why it's only these two, are that all other countries which would actually be a match, are allied or at least neutral to the US, and have no incentive to invade. The only other option would be to either make up an enemy (thus losing all the "real world"-connection") or having US be the invading force. If having US be the invading force (and invading another country than China, Russia or NK) you would have to come up with a pretty darn good reason for having the US invade a country that simply can't match the technological level and the manpower the US (and it's allies, usually) have.
and world at war, and the world at war guys come back as vengeful protagonists for other more asshatty russians.Matt_LRR said:
as for my theory,
americans are beginning to realize that russia helped more in world war 2 than they did, and also that their dictator was kinda a douche at the time. so now that theres no real reason to make games where we kill germans we have to fight russians to prove that we are better and couldve won ww2 without them, since america hasnt fought a real war since then
and the asshat dictator as well as a phobia of any government system that isnt a republic is enough for them to be painted as bad guys
The history of warfare where technology was advanced enough to facilitate a modern shooter is quite short. You have WWI, which is really tricky to do, and as such is in a limited number of games. WWII has been done to death. Gulf War and it's relatives cover most modern shooters. Vietnam has been pretty popular. For the most part, that leaves the Cold War. And frankly, I think they went with the Cold War because they have used other wars so much, they need to add a little more variety. Then, if you want a sense of story, and even a hint of historical versimilitude, you have to have America fighting some enemy they have fought before. Russia has had it's hands in the most of these things the longest. As such, they get assigned the bad guy position. Also, in the 60's, 70's and 80's, a very distinctive time period with distinctive weaponry, who else is America going to fight?
I'm curious if game designers are ever going to try to use the Korean war.
I'm curious if game designers are ever going to try to use the Korean war.
Because we never had to have a real war with them, the Cold War kind of fizzled out, none of the battleship-dogfight-secret-agent-OSS-artillery-flamethrower-sabotage-tank-battle-army-on-army excitement of WWII, and since the game industry has taken the piss out of WWII they decided to make the Cold War more awesome retrospectively.
Rascism.
That is all.
Ok, killing poor peasant farmers in Vietnam doesn't feel too righteous (unless backed up by the aforementioned super power) so the Vietcong or even the North Vietnamese Army is out of the question
The Taliban are an embarrassing chapter in US history, one where we gave a radical fringe group massive stockpiles of military weaponry and trained their leaders in US tactics, right before they used those weapons and tactics to orchestrate a crippling attack and then engage us in a conflict with no foreseeable end. Having an in-depth look at them in a game would only underline how incompetent we are.
China is a very real threat, so antagonizing them would be like insulting an eight foot tall kid at school with a beard named Mungo while he has you trapped in a very small room while you are in traction.
N. Korea is a close ally of China, so see the above entry.
Iran is scary to say the least. They don't have a strong army to match up against to antagonize them with, and having a campaign focused on sabotaging their nuclear program would confirm their hatred of America. Not safe enough for any current studio to exploit.
Pre-Op. Iraqi Freedom Iraq has been tried, but scrapped due to the fact that veterans are still around so its still a sore subject, and the whole conflict is hard to turn into an adrenaline fest due to the relative inactivity of it.
Russia was a superpower that fell due to its own economic blunders, shitty leaders and general incompetence. They cannot respond to American taunts anymore, so they are an even safer subject than Nazi Germany. And the propaganda pumped into American youth ever since 1947 hasn't faded, so companies are looking to capitalize on those planted triggers. Arguably the greatest attack Russia has ever made on America is that now politicians that give handjobs to big business now don't even have to work to find a bullshit argument against legislation trying to stop exploitation of the sick and dying.
The hate against Russia is partly because companies figured out that we all have mental triggers in our subconscious that will make us shut off our minds when we hear the word "communism" and transform to a state of hyperactive twat-ery. Obviously as well, its the last time that America went up against an enemy that could stand up on its own.
That is all.
Ok, killing poor peasant farmers in Vietnam doesn't feel too righteous (unless backed up by the aforementioned super power) so the Vietcong or even the North Vietnamese Army is out of the question
The Taliban are an embarrassing chapter in US history, one where we gave a radical fringe group massive stockpiles of military weaponry and trained their leaders in US tactics, right before they used those weapons and tactics to orchestrate a crippling attack and then engage us in a conflict with no foreseeable end. Having an in-depth look at them in a game would only underline how incompetent we are.
China is a very real threat, so antagonizing them would be like insulting an eight foot tall kid at school with a beard named Mungo while he has you trapped in a very small room while you are in traction.
N. Korea is a close ally of China, so see the above entry.
Iran is scary to say the least. They don't have a strong army to match up against to antagonize them with, and having a campaign focused on sabotaging their nuclear program would confirm their hatred of America. Not safe enough for any current studio to exploit.
Pre-Op. Iraqi Freedom Iraq has been tried, but scrapped due to the fact that veterans are still around so its still a sore subject, and the whole conflict is hard to turn into an adrenaline fest due to the relative inactivity of it.
Russia was a superpower that fell due to its own economic blunders, shitty leaders and general incompetence. They cannot respond to American taunts anymore, so they are an even safer subject than Nazi Germany. And the propaganda pumped into American youth ever since 1947 hasn't faded, so companies are looking to capitalize on those planted triggers. Arguably the greatest attack Russia has ever made on America is that now politicians that give handjobs to big business now don't even have to work to find a bullshit argument against legislation trying to stop exploitation of the sick and dying.
The hate against Russia is partly because companies figured out that we all have mental triggers in our subconscious that will make us shut off our minds when we hear the word "communism" and transform to a state of hyperactive twat-ery. Obviously as well, its the last time that America went up against an enemy that could stand up on its own.
One of the best posts I've seen on this website, also were you going for a MSPA sort of thing what with the CHanGing Capitalization?thiosk said:
If we even talked about Russia's horrible war crimes, too, such as back in WW2, then it'd make America's past look like a huggable bear. Why are you so offended, because your country is always in our games? You should be honored to have the idea that in Modern Warfare your country was kicking our butt until a nuke's EMP stopped the invasion before we would be overrun, yet here you are trying to cry that it's wrong and then bring in our past as if it mattered? Seriously...Lord_Gremlin said:
As for the thread, it's because Russia was America's last truly memorable standoff between an equal power. Until we have another war in some other country with nearly equal power matching our military, it'll probably be them. Besides, who doesn't love what the crazy Russians make in games like Red Alert with their time travel and assassinating Einstein and crap? It's just awesome.
Lastly: Russian accents on a muscular Russian? Win. Always has, always will.
Black Ops, you say? Might it have something to do with the fact that it revolves around the Cold War?
Also, there are way too many conspiracy theories in this thread.
Also, there are way too many conspiracy theories in this thread.
Is that supposed to be some kind of coded message? Is there something that the KGB doesn't want you to tell us?thiosk said:
You want to know what is really stupid about what you just said, the people who complain against the aliens are generally not the people who complain about the Nazi. What you're doing is grouping everyone who has had a complaint about an enemy in a certain game together with people who have had complaints of the enemies in other games, what your doing there is inane, and your writing is barley legible too I might add.thiosk said:
P.S. Complaining on the internet about others complaining on the internet is a tad bit contradictory don't you agree?