The problem with Korra is that her trials and tribulations seem too rushed, then resolved with a Deus Ex Machina. Aang popping up to restore everyone's bending? Jinora suddenly developing spiritual powers? That didn't go down well with the fans.
There's nothing wrong with Korra. But it seems as if the writers have shoehorned her into something, and don't care much for her, as long as they can go "Hey look! SPIRIT JESUS! Ain't that cool or what!"
A great deal of it comes from it not being the Last Airbender. People like focusing on Korra's faults just because of that fact and condemn her for them by bringing up the argument that, "Aang would have done this better" and blah blah blah. It's probably also the fact that she is a teenager and thus has alot of qualities people just don't like even though it is normal for someone her age. Personally, I thoroughly enjoy Korra, just like I enjoyed Last Airbender. Both of them have their own unique set of identities and I respect the show forging it's own identity instead of trying to be like Last Airbender, which is once again, one of the major problems alot of these so called fans have.
I love how often people use this casual, handwaving excuse to minimize the criticisms we have about Korra. Especially in a thread that is filled with multiple, very detailed explanations about why we don't like her, that have nothing to do with "She's not Aang omgherd!!"
And how we're "so called fans" because we happen to dislike the main character. Classy, just love it. *wipes the sarcasm from his lip* Oh, sorry, I dribbled there for a minute.
A great deal of it comes from it not being the Last Airbender. People like focusing on Korra's faults just because of that fact and condemn her for them by bringing up the argument that, "Aang would have done this better" and blah blah blah. It's probably also the fact that she is a teenager and thus has alot of qualities people just don't like even though it is normal for someone her age. Personally, I thoroughly enjoy Korra, just like I enjoyed Last Airbender. Both of them have their own unique set of identities and I respect the show forging it's own identity instead of trying to be like Last Airbender, which is once again, one of the major problems alot of these so called fans have.
I love how often people use this casual, handwaving excuse to minimize the criticisms we have about Korra. Especially in a thread that is filled with multiple, very detailed explanations about why we don't like her, that have nothing to do with "She's not Aang omgherd!!"
And how we're "so called fans" because we happen to dislike the main character. Classy, just love it. *wipes the sarcasm from his lip* Oh, sorry, I dribbled there for a minute.
Oh boy, someone who disagrees with me and has his own opinion. Stop the presses.
Ignoring your obvious hostility, using the term, "so called fans", may have been of an unfair overstatement on my part. It happens, I tend to naturally exaggerate. Now as far as everything else, my explanation was written through past experience with other Avatar fans, specifically those who love TLA. These aren't people on the Escapist, these are real life friends and acquaintances. Many of them do not like Korra because intentionally or not, they compare her to Aang. In many of their minds, that show was perfection with the perfect main character so of course they are unfairly going to compare the two shows together, they are already subconsciously primed and ready to pick out the flaws and ignore the good.
As far as what everyone else wrote here on the Escapist? Well I am sure there are some great explanations and opinions, I just don't care enough to read them about a show that I of course, personally enjoy. It's a luxury, so therefore I don't feel the need to take it seriously enough to have an open mind about other people's opinions when those opinions I know are largely in part negative. I am already aware of many of the criticisms directed towards this show, but I choose to write about one of the main reasons why I think people don't like her and it comes from personal interaction with the fans.
I've got to come out and say it... I like Korra, not the character per se, but the show overall I think has been pretty strong throughout. Yeah the end of the first series was rushed and felt out of place, and yeah all the cheesy teen romance stuff annoyed the hell out of me, but hey! i'm not the target audience - I'm a mid 30's guy who LOVED TLA (and believe me i loved that show, more than , and i'm just glad they did something else in the same universe and with some of the same characters.
I've not started on the new series yet, but i thought the second series was pretty strong, the avatar Wan episodes especially... the animation is first rate for the most part, it's starting to get the humor balance right, something that TLA struggled with intially, and generally i think it's a lot of fun.
One thing that it lacks is an overarching story arc and the time to work it through. The premise for the second season could have worked as an long term arc, and i think that could have been awesome, but hey, as i said, i'm just glad to have more avatar to watch , I'm not going to ***** to much.
Having read the entire thread and knowing outright that you can't really fault someone for their opinion so much of what people seem to be complaining about seems wrong. In no particular order.
1. Korra is a rebellious teen. Well ignoring the fact that she's only slightly rebeliious, all things said Tenzin seems to have her on a fairly short leash.
2. She thinks she's hot shit. She's fuck mothering avatar! I'm actually far more tired of characters who are quite literally God and still insist on being treated like they are just another person. It's not a superiority complex when you are actually superior. The opener of the S3 made me cheer when the Mayor called her out for the vines and she rudely reminded him she was in the process of saving the world. She should really go make herself a sammich the next time a destructive spirit tries to destroy Republic City.
The Spirits are horrible dicks and need to be reigned in and I'm annoyed that part of the story got glossed over, that was BS but I'm sure they'll get back to it. We know from the back story of the first Avatar that Spirits are at best racist pricks who could have dealt with humans much better than we're ever shown them doing.
3. Korra is gorgeous. I guess. I think Katara, Azula, Ty Lee and Asami all easily outshine her. She's got a six pack and is kinda mannish (for the art style). Not that she is isn't attractive, just she's far from the hottest thing in her own series. I get that it was a minor gripe for those who made it but still.
4. Korra is hot headed. This I actually find to be the closest thing to a real complaint and it's one that I make a lot. Mostly because it makes Korra seem like she's fundamentally wrong. As far as we can tell from the original series it seems like most of the tribes/kingdoms have something of a personality type. Air Benders are wise, non-confrontational and a flighty. Earth benders are stubborn, patient. Water benders are generally even keeled but if the Master from the North and Katara are good examples they are also quick to emotional shifts that can be a bit radical. Fire Benders are quick to anger and impatient. Korra is a Fire Bender spritually. I know the flashback implies that she spontaneously learned three of the four elements but it would shock me to find out that fire wasn't the one that actually came naturally to her and the only reason it's not her go to is being raised by water benders.
5. I'll grant that Korra doesn't have the same kind of arc that The Last Airbender did because it was written as one book and got expanded instead of being written as a full series. PErsonally I find that to be a bit of a plus here mostly because I ended up having to wait years to watch Avatar because if you missed teh beginning you couldn't just jump in and catch up. That is however a very legit complaint and one that I understand if I ultimately disagree with.
6. I don't find the teens to be particularly insufferable, I actually found the idea that children much younger than them were accomplishing things in the original to be a bit distracting when you thought about it. Aang had the dual excuses of being the Avatar and being the only Air Bender in decades? (is it ever cleared up exactly how long it took to wipe out the Air Benders or only that it started a century ago?) The point being very few people have ever fought one so they don't have any clue what he can do. Toph was trained by Badger Moles (and Bumi would still have mopped the floor with her, the fact that she cleans up the Dai Lee is still nuts) Katara is self trained and roughly on par with a master when they first meet? BULLSHIT. Zuko and Azula are royalty and apparently not pampered (though Zuko seems even at the start of the the series to be probably the fourth strongest fire bender behind his father, uncle and sister.) By contrast only Korra and maybe Asami are presented as being particularly impressive. Pro-Benders yes, even a cop and I still don't think any of them are presented as being unstoppable. Nor are they dealing with the end of the world nearly as unnaturally well as the original cast. Other than Aang being goofy the original series often feels like a bunch of adults who are written as kids for the sake of the argument, the current batch are kids.
In short I like the new show, it's got it's faults and might not be quite as epic as the original but the hate is mostly undeserved.
A great deal of it comes from it not being the Last Airbender. People like focusing on Korra's faults just because of that fact and condemn her for them by bringing up the argument that, "Aang would have done this better" and blah blah blah. It's probably also the fact that she is a teenager and thus has alot of qualities people just don't like even though it is normal for someone her age. Personally, I thoroughly enjoy Korra, just like I enjoyed Last Airbender. Both of them have their own unique set of identities and I respect the show forging it's own identity instead of trying to be like Last Airbender, which is once again, one of the major problems alot of these so called fans have.
I love how often people use this casual, handwaving excuse to minimize the criticisms we have about Korra. Especially in a thread that is filled with multiple, very detailed explanations about why we don't like her, that have nothing to do with "She's not Aang omgherd!!"
And how we're "so called fans" because we happen to dislike the main character. Classy, just love it. *wipes the sarcasm from his lip* Oh, sorry, I dribbled there for a minute.
Oh boy, someone who disagrees with me and has his own opinion. Stop the presses.
Ignoring your obvious hostility, using the term, "so called fans", may have been of an unfair overstatement on my part. It happens, I tend to naturally exaggerate. Now as far as everything else, my explanation was written through past experience with other Avatar fans, specifically those who love TLA. These aren't people on the Escapist, these are real life friends and acquaintances. Many of them do not like Korra because intentionally or not, they compare her to Aang. In many of their minds, that show was perfection with the perfect main character so of course they are unfairly going to compare the two shows together, they are already subconsciously primed and ready to pick out the flaws and ignore the good.
As far as what everyone else wrote here on the Escapist? Well I am sure there are some great explanations and opinions, I just don't care enough to read them about a show that I of course, personally enjoy. It's a luxury, so therefore I don't feel the need to take it seriously enough to have an open mind about other people's opinions when those opinions I know are largely in part negative. I am already aware of many of the criticisms directed towards this show, but I choose to write about one of the main reasons why I think people don't like her and it comes from personal interaction with the fans.
My comment was no more "hostile" than yours was. It was simply me being a sarcastic smartass back at you.
And if you can't be bothered to actually read our comments as to why we don't like her, then you have no real foundation to say that we don't like her because we just want her to be Aang. You flat out said you don't have an open mind about our opinions, and just made your own blanket, and erroneous theory on why we don't like her. So thank you very much for trivializing your own input, you've saved me the trouble.
A great deal of it comes from it not being the Last Airbender. People like focusing on Korra's faults just because of that fact and condemn her for them by bringing up the argument that, "Aang would have done this better" and blah blah blah. It's probably also the fact that she is a teenager and thus has alot of qualities people just don't like even though it is normal for someone her age. Personally, I thoroughly enjoy Korra, just like I enjoyed Last Airbender. Both of them have their own unique set of identities and I respect the show forging it's own identity instead of trying to be like Last Airbender, which is once again, one of the major problems alot of these so called fans have.
I love how often people use this casual, handwaving excuse to minimize the criticisms we have about Korra. Especially in a thread that is filled with multiple, very detailed explanations about why we don't like her, that have nothing to do with "She's not Aang omgherd!!"
And how we're "so called fans" because we happen to dislike the main character. Classy, just love it. *wipes the sarcasm from his lip* Oh, sorry, I dribbled there for a minute.
Oh boy, someone who disagrees with me and has his own opinion. Stop the presses.
Ignoring your obvious hostility, using the term, "so called fans", may have been of an unfair overstatement on my part. It happens, I tend to naturally exaggerate. Now as far as everything else, my explanation was written through past experience with other Avatar fans, specifically those who love TLA. These aren't people on the Escapist, these are real life friends and acquaintances. Many of them do not like Korra because intentionally or not, they compare her to Aang. In many of their minds, that show was perfection with the perfect main character so of course they are unfairly going to compare the two shows together, they are already subconsciously primed and ready to pick out the flaws and ignore the good.
As far as what everyone else wrote here on the Escapist? Well I am sure there are some great explanations and opinions, I just don't care enough to read them about a show that I of course, personally enjoy. It's a luxury, so therefore I don't feel the need to take it seriously enough to have an open mind about other people's opinions when those opinions I know are largely in part negative. I am already aware of many of the criticisms directed towards this show, but I choose to write about one of the main reasons why I think people don't like her and it comes from personal interaction with the fans.
My comment was no more "hostile" than yours was. It was simply me being a sarcastic smartass back at you.
And if you can't be bothered to actually read our comments as to why we don't like her, then you have no real foundation to say that we don't like her because we just want her to be Aang. You flat out said you don't have an open mind about our opinions, and just made your own blanket, and erroneous theory on why we don't like her. So thank you very much for trivializing your own input, you've saved me the trouble.
Really not getting why you are making a bit of a deal out of this. The OP asked a question and I answered. And your right, it is a trivial answer to a trivial topic that has no meaning in the grand scheme of things. It is just entertainment. That said, I believe the OP's question contained "why do so MANY people", so my answer wasn't intended to include the individuals who obviously don't like the show for different reasons, it was intended to include the many individuals who do dislike it for the exact reason I detailed, which do exist as I had explained before.
EDIT: I was wondering what I was going to do for my new word of the day (I look up one new word every day to expand my repertoire of vocabulary). Thank you for using the word "erroneous", I love learning new things.
Okay, lemme put my cheap two cents in: I've found her exasperating at times, and there have definitely been times when she's out of line...but I've never been able to dislike her. She struck me as a flawed but basically good character stuck in a narrative that's been--to put it politely--decidedly messy in places. And her having a four-plus creators' pet for a deuteragonist/love interest didn't exactly help, either.
But from what I can tell? The people who do dislike her, half the time, seem to be taking the messy narrative out on her (conveniently ignoring how badly undermined she's gotten for it). The other half? Giving her guff for behavior that people don't blink at when boy characters pull it.
Hell, the fact that people not only still 'ship her with Mako after he lied to her, but act like she's lucky that he wanted to get back together? Quite telling.
I like Korra, both as a series and as a character. I never understood why she seems to be hated so much. I find her a refreshing breath from Aang, because she is more willing to get her hands dirty. Aang was great too, but when he had that whole crisis of conscience about killing the Fire Lord, I wanted to smack him. Recall, if you will, that the body of his mentor was surrounded by corpses of Fire Benders. Clearly not killing isn't an iron-clad Air Nomad rule. I get what they were trying to do, but if you look at the big picture, Aang is risking the lives of thousands of people for his own beliefs.
Of course, Korra has gone and done this too, allowing the spirits to return to the human realm because she feels like it's the right thing to do, so there's that.
If anything, it's Mako that gets on my nerves, and watching him squirm in Season 3 has a been a real joy for me. Very sad that Nick seems intent on driving the show into the ground though.
I don't think there's anything really wrong with Korra herself. It's just that the series have a couple of problems.
Season 1 was okey. It (kinda, sorta) worked as a shorter story, and didn't mess with anything that came before.
Then, everything changed when season 2 arrived..
I don't see many people complaining about this, so it might just be me, but isn't there a different "feel" about the spiritworld and the Avatar in the Last Airbender than what was reveiled in Legend of Korra?
While they never specify in the Last Airbender how the spiritworld worked or what it was, there never seemed to be this great gap between the worlds. Spirits could easily come over into the human world, and some humans seemed to have no problem going into the spirit world. Then in Legend of Korra, suddenly the spirit and human world is divided and spirit can't cross over and such.
And then we have the avatar. In Last Airbender, how they talked about Avatar was less like an historical character that existed because this and that happened, and more like a fact of life. Just like bending is a part of the world, the Avatar is a part of the world, sorta like a messenger from above to keep the peace. Only that, he is not. The Avatar's origin is some thief that grouped togheter with a spirit and then possesed a baby when he died and has continued to do so throughout the ages. What a guy.
I guess I just liked the more mythical and mysterious feeling from the Last Airbender, but this and some other things is why I'm not crazy over Legend of Korra.
Spoilers here, I guess?
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One thing that is very VERY minor is that she is/was absolutely gorgeous. As I said, very minor personal quibble, but it leaves a slightly bad taste in my mouth. Sure, Katara was pretty, but Korra has perfect, like, everything. Not a fan.
I have to disagree with you on that one. The tomboy aspect of Korra's character was played pretty heavily and I thought the sole purpose of Asami Sato was to show how not-pretty and unladylike Korra was.
The way her character was tossed to the side at the end of the first season cemented that thought for me. I became too disinterested to continue onto the 2nd and the 3rd seasons to see if she's still around with a purpose.
Ah, I suspected this miscommunication might arise. My fault. Let me clarify.
I wasn't referring to her personality at all. When I said "perfect everything", I meant her body. I'll expound.
I don't like her physical character design, or rather, certain aspects of it. I love her expressiveness, I (mostly) like her costume design, such as the water-tribe arm warmer she has on her right arm and other great details. I love the dynamic nature of her movement and posture, and I like that her body is somewhat reflective that she is a warrior at heart(tall, muscular, etc).
Now, what I don't like... Physically, she is perfect when it comes to the human body. I see that some people don't think this when looking at the other posts so I guess this is my opinion, but still... Perfect waist, hips, legs, proportions(proportions e.g. well built body with well placed, even, and symmetrical features typically held in high regard when it comes to the attractiveness of the female form) and her breast are absurdly perfect. When discussing this with a friend, I mentioned that it annoys me that her primary outfit is a skin-tight top that- (he interrupts) "that shows off her amazing rack? Yeah I know what you mean." I wouldn't say it that way, but I feel the crudeness of his words clarifies the point better.
I am fine with attractive characters; if I weren't I would never watch TV ever. But what I don't like about Korra is that she's sexy. I don't feel that should be her primary design.
As for the "sexiness" argument, here [http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140726173002/avatar/images/thumb/9/92/Korra_and_Naga_sedated.png/200px-Korra_and_Naga_sedated.png] are some [http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2012/04/korrabig2.jpg] examples [http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9994/ep1korra8.jpg].
But, as I said, that's a minor quibble.
Mostly, I agree with senordesol's analysis; quite a lot, in fact. I took some time of my own to consider why I don't like the very show much. At first I didn't really understand why I didn't enjoy watching it. The music is amazing, the animation and the choreography looks incredible, the characters are well rounded, the plot is interesting... I then tried to notice at what times I was getting annoyed while watching it, and I came to the conclusion that I can't stand Korra.
Believe me, I WANT to like this show. I want to like it SO BAD. And while Korra is definitely a consistent and well-written character, I just can't root for someone so stubborn; who refuses to learn anything and/or admit it when she screws up. Here is an example from season 3, episode 10, Long Live The Queen. Quoted from the wiki [http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Korra]:
" The two [her and Asami] made their way to the cockpit, where Korra airbent the co-pilot into the control panel, damaging the ship's controls and causing it to descend rapidly. When the co-pilot came after her, the Avatar again airbent him back, sending him into the captain and breaking the radio system. When Asami made note of this, Korra said it was not her fault that the airship was a "hunk of junk" before being told to hang on to something as they crashed into a sand dune. "
Wow, seriously? Not even a "Oops, my bad."? Not even a minor omission as a small step towards changing stupid behavior?
Based on how I've seen her behave, here is her "learning process" as I personally view it. The example I give will be of a regular person if they had her mindset, to highlight the way she thinks:
-Throws rocks at a beehive
-Breaks beehive, is attacked by bees
-Holds her ground and tries to fight the bees with a stick
-Incurs dozens of stings and either runs out of panic or falls unconscious
-Is treated later, and when asked about her behavior, states: "It's not my fault the bees were so sensitive!"
-Later tries to spray the hive with a hose, light it on fire, or some other act of oneupmanship in order to get "revenge"
-Is attacked by the bees again
-Runs away this time like a sensible person
-Either concludes that it's a bad idea to mess with a beehive, or forms a vendetta against bees
Really, when it comes down to it, she simply does STUPID things, over and over again. She takes action without caution or foresight, and there is really only so many times she can do this until there is no excuse. When she was thinking of training with Unalaq, maybe she should have just ASKED her father and Tenzin why they were so against it instead of just doing it(although in honestly it was as much their fault as it was hers, if not more so)? In the first season, why did she run from the police, instead of coming quietly, when it was clear she wasn't going to get away and they declared a legitimate reason for chasing/arresting her? Or when she was capturing the taxes for the queen, maybe she should have followed her intuition that it wasn't a good idea instead of just doing it anyway? At least a dozen other examples in which even one the tiniest, simplest forms of cautionary or diplomatic action would have made things way, way easier? For everyone?
I admit that none of these things are inherently bad in their own right; there is nothing definitively wrong with a character looking or acting like Korra does. However, I found it too frustrating to watch. That's the conclusion I draw.
I'll cut to the chase - in the first 2 seasons Korra is a whiny arrogant stubborn ***** who makes one dumb decision after another, gets all her solutions delivered to her on a plate and has almost no redeeming quality. Well except her physique I guess, which freed up a lot of rule34 potential (thanks internet).
But yeah...her character combined with other gripes I had with the show was enough to make me stop watching altogether, I don't really know what happened after S2.
One can say "well angry stupid rebel teen was what the writers were going for" but that didn't make Korra as a character any more likeable.
Writers, please don't write any more such protagonists. They are not enjoyable to watch unless they QUICKLY realize their mistakes (and I'm talking within 5-6 episodes max, there's only so much bullshit people can tolerate), change their attitude, etc. You know, behave how someone would realistically behave.
I'll cut to the chase - in the first 2 seasons Korra is a whiny arrogant stubborn ***** who makes one dumb decision after another, gets all her solutions delivered to her on a plate and has almost no redeeming quality. Well except her physique I guess, which freed up a lot of rule34 potential (thanks internet).
But yeah...her character combined with other gripes I had with the show was enough to make me stop watching altogether, I don't really know what happened after S2.
One can say "well angry stupid rebel teen was what the writers were going for" but that didn't make Korra as a character any more likeable.
Writers, please don't write any more such protagonists. They are not enjoyable to watch unless they QUICKLY realize their mistakes (and I'm talking within 5-6 episodes max, there's only so much bullshit people can tolerate), change their attitude, etc. You know, behave how someone would realistically behave.
Tell that to Yahtzee after he's gets sick of a 15-hour game just 4-5 hours into it and stops playing. Like I said, there's only so much shit one can take and Korra showed no signs of improving. There was no telling if in S3 she would forget everything that happened in S1-S2 and start from scratch with her bitchy arrogant ways. I didn't want to risk that.
Also if you didn't like Aang as a protagonist, then that kinda already hints to me that your opinion on everything else might also be just as "backwards". Aang wasn't perfect, but he is still easily one of the best examples of a well-written protagonist.
If a protagonist is even SLIGHTLY unlikeable then the show simply won't gain anywhere near as much respect and a fan following as ATLA.
Tell that to Yahtzee after he's gets sick of a 15-hour game just 4-5 hours into it and stops playing. Like I said, there's only so much shit one can take and Korra showed no signs of improving. There was no telling if in S3 she would forget everything that happened in S1-S2 and start from scratch with her bitchy arrogant ways. I didn't want to risk that.
Also if you didn't like Aang as a protagonist, then that kinda already hints to me that your opinion on everything else might also be just as "backwards". Aang wasn't perfect, but he is still easily one of the best examples of a well-written protagonist.
If a protagonist is even SLIGHTLY unlikeable then the show simply won't gain anywhere near as much respect and a fan following as ATLA.
Yes, but the argument you proposed was that you didn't like Korra, you didn't have an in-depth examination of how 'poorly written' she is. You don't have to think a character is written well to like them.
Plus, you say
" They are not enjoyable to watch unless they QUICKLY realize their mistakes "
I could just as easily argue that you just can't stand 'stubborn' characters - or characters that have any sense of braggy self confidence. I enjoyed watching Korra be a little stuck in her personality, absorbed in herself. It was good to see a female character that actually KNEW and was confident in how badass she was without being a total 'Queen B' about it.
I think the problem is that you perfer characters with a more external to internal struggle - while Korra's internal struggle is essentially the 'main' point of the series. Aang's emotional struggle is, indeed, a major point in the series but not as big of a point with Korras who - again - is a bit stuck in her ways.
And thanks for the passive aggressive insults, won't forget em.
Personally, I thoroughly enjoy Korra, just like I enjoyed Last Airbender. Both of them have their own unique set of identities and I respect the show forging it's own identity instead of trying to be like Last Airbender, which is once again, one of the major problems alot of these so called fans have.
I love how often people use this casual, handwaving excuse to minimize the criticisms we have about Korra. Especially in a thread that is filled with multiple, very detailed explanations about why we don't like her, that have nothing to do with "She's not Aang omgherd!!"
And how we're "so called fans" because we happen to dislike the main character. Classy, just love it. *wipes the sarcasm from his lip* Oh, sorry, I dribbled there for a minute.
Oh boy, someone who disagrees with me and has his own opinion. Stop the presses.
Ignoring your obvious hostility, using the term, "so called fans", may have been of an unfair overstatement on my part.
As far as what everyone else wrote here on the Escapist? Well I am sure there are some great explanations and opinions, I just don't care enough to read them about a show that I of course, personally enjoy. It's a luxury, so therefore I don't feel the need to take it seriously enough to have an open mind about other people's opinions when those opinions I know are largely in part negative. I am already aware of many of the criticisms directed towards this show, but I choose to write about one of the main reasons why I think people don't like her and it comes from personal interaction with the fans.
Tell that to Yahtzee after he's gets sick of a 15-hour game just 4-5 hours into it and stops playing. Like I said, there's only so much shit one can take and Korra showed no signs of improving. There was no telling if in S3 she would forget everything that happened in S1-S2 and start from scratch with her bitchy arrogant ways. I didn't want to risk that.
Also if you didn't like Aang as a protagonist, then that kinda already hints to me that your opinion on everything else might also be just as "backwards". Aang wasn't perfect, but he is still easily one of the best examples of a well-written protagonist.
If a protagonist is even SLIGHTLY unlikeable then the show simply won't gain anywhere near as much respect and a fan following as ATLA.
Yes, but the argument you proposed was that you didn't like Korra, you didn't have an in-depth examination of how 'poorly written' she is. You don't have to think a character is written well to like them.
Plus, you say
" They are not enjoyable to watch unless they QUICKLY realize their mistakes "
I could just as easily argue that you just can't stand 'stubborn' characters - or characters that have any sense of braggy self confidence. I enjoyed watching Korra be a little stuck in her personality, absorbed in herself. It was good to see a female character that actually KNEW and was confident in how badass she was without being a total 'Queen B' about it.
I think the problem is that you perfer characters with a more external to internal struggle - while Korra's internal struggle is essentially the 'main' point of the series. Aang's emotional struggle is, indeed, a major point in the series but not as big of a point with Korras who - again - is a bit stuck in her ways.
And thanks for the passive aggressive insults, won't forget em.
My statement:
Let me clarify that I am not criticizing, justifying or denouncing anyone's words, statements or attitudes. I take no issue nor claim moral superiority over anyone here for any reason. That being said, can we please have everyone calm down a bit? There is no need for insults or personal vilification. Opinions are only "wrong" if they disagree with empirically proven facts. If we have such proof, let's use it and present it fairly. Keep in mind a little respect goes a long way.
"Harsh words won't solve problems; action will."
Let me first say this: I don't think it's fair to compare TLA to LOK. I personally think that LOK should be taken on it's own merits, and that alone.
I would like to reanalyze my previous position. My decision on Korra as a character was apparently based on limited information. I had watched the entirety of season one, and then accidentally saw the finale of season 2 (vatuu battle) when surfing on Youtube(oops). I liked her in the season finale because it seemed like she was actually being the avatar; taking her job seriously, doing what needed to be done, but most of all, she worked with others without incessant arguing or needless personal baggage. So, I took a look at the first episode of season 2. What I immediately saw was her disrespectful, poorly conceived conversations with her previously trusted teachers(like her own father!), poor judgment combined with nonsensical immediate trust, and terrible conflict resolution... It made me cringe and I stopped watching. I was felt confirmed that she had grown very little, especially considering how little effort she actually put into "earning" the things she got in season 1, like energy bending and airbending.
Several people here mentioned that season 3 was much better, and though I was skeptical I decided to give it a shot. It actually IS much better. Korra in much more responsible, calm and reasonable. She considers her actions before taking them(most of the time). She still does stupid stuff(I'm on episode 8-9 and after BARELY not being captured by Zaheer due to the help of almost an entire city full of benders, she decides to face him with only herself and a couple of her friends?? Seriously?? How was she expecting that to work out??) it is clear that she is TRYING. That she hasn't grown out of her impulsive nature, but that she is not proud of that it is actually part of who she is instead of something she takes refuge in in order to excuse herself from actual character development(see season 1).
To those of you who pointed out the difference between the seasons, thank you for that! Had I not known season 3 was significantly different than the others I may not have given it a chance.
P.S. I really like Zaheer as a villain because he is complex and compelling. One of the best villians I've seen for years in ANY form of media, in fact.
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