Why so much hate for Origin?

[The Lunatic]

In the past, I've had issues with EA, never had issues with Valve and Steam.

Therefore, it's just a case of "Why change what's working for me?".

I don't hate Origin, but, I think it's a stupid idea and will probably fail in comparison to the mighty Steam.

 

[teh_Canape]

yeah well, if you remember, Steam was also pure shit when it came out like 5 years ago, just give Origin time

 

[The Funslinger]

I find with Valve, you really get a sense its devs really love what they do. Not so much with other companies (with the possible exception of Bungie) and I won't change from Steam. In the long run, I'd say it would be better because Valve is more on a level with their community. However, I'm excited about Origin, even though I won't be using it. Why? Because a competitor (even though they haven't got the right attitude) as big as EA cutting into the same field as Valve's Steam is going to be cause for competitive improvements across the board. For that reason, I sincerely hope they pull out all the stops with Origin.

Edit: Actually read the OP properly. I see we agree.

 

[[Gavo]]

I like having all my games in one hub, and Steam has been around for so long that I play almost exclusively from Steam. Another service is just an inconvenience.

 

[StBishop]

[li]"I don't trust EA" -- Fair enough. But EA actually SEEMS to be trying to get better. They stopped using their draconian DRM (at least for their digitally distributed titles, and they have been publishing more varied games lately). I mean, it's not Activision or anything.[/li]

Add this to my already rather substantial distrust of digital distribution, which I am slowly overcoming with small ( < $5.00) purchases on steam, and you get a very unreliable service which is out to screw me out of my money and product with no regard for my enjoyment.

I realise that this may not be the case, but you asked why it's getting hate. I don't hate it but I'm highly sceptical, I didn't even start using steam until recently.

For a youth I'm very set in my ways.

Anyway I have Origin now, and I've had Impulse for a while (for Demigod), and I've used Direct2Drive as well. Actually, I wish D2D had a store app as opposed to just the website. I hate their Comrade app and it doesn't have any store portion to it, it just shows you your previous purchases.

WHY?!? WHYYYY?!?

It's not an app, it's a program. Argh!

 

[minimacker]

I feel that EA is forcing this down our throats.

"Someone else is making money? We better copy every single thing about it, restrict it to only a few games and add nothing new to it!"

I don't know, it just doesn't appeal to me. EA has made some of the worst mistakes I could think of and now they want us to just come back and hug them.

With Steam, you know it's Steam. They've been around for years, they have an incredible game library from many, many developers, both big and small. They have events, VAC, easy purchasing, Valve.

Why would I want to download a second Steam, that will be inferior?

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

The main reason why I don't trust it is the fact that I have wrestled with thier old download program ''EA Download Manager'' since The Sims 3 was released. It is notorious as a really bad piece of software, has been know to just downright refuse people downloads of games that they have paid for and has had problems with every game.

It just wouldn't straight up work with updating the sims for me so I had to do it manually everytime.

That's why I don't trust Origin becuase it's predecessor was programmed by derp monkeys from the seventh level of herp.

 

[Midnight Crossroads]

-EA is telling me where I can't buy my games by removing the service I already use.
-EA is forcing me to put more of my information out on the web for people to steal. Instead of giving just Valve my credit card information, I have to give it to Valve and EA now. The more people in on a secret, the more likely it is to get out.
-I don't want two download services on my PC. Punk Buster already goes apeshit about Steam, and I know BF3 is going to run that laughable antihack program.
-EA is the company which locked people out of their games because they were banned on a forum.
-People say this is going to increase competition, but it's not. If EA decides to lock everyone else on top of Steam out of their products except through Origin, they can charge whatever the hell they want. And it's not like Steam is keeping game prices hostage by charging $70 for all games no matter how old. We just came out of a massive summer sale.
-EA is part of the problem with DRM. And they're the ones who started the 10 dollars extra for a used game. Thanks for coming up with new ways to screw over paying customers. Fight the good fight against those pirates, EA.
-EA fronts their image as being a bunch of children. Dante's Inferno had those stupid fake protests, Dead Space 2 had "Your mom hates this game," The Old Republic is being pushed as "Not WoW," and now Battlefield 3 is being advertised as "Not Call of Duty." Their behavior with Activision is fucking pathetic. I don't want to hear about other companies, I want to hear about your products.


It is not a company I support. It's a damn shame that Dice is under them. Thankfully, I haven't cared about Bioware since Knights of the Old Republic.

 

[Rodrigo Girao]

And saying "EA isn't Activision" is sorta like saying "Stalin isn't Hitler".

If anything, Stalin was more [http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm] genocidal than Hitler.

 

[dfphetteplace]

I tried Origin and it was terrible. I hated it and went right back to Steam and asked it to forgive me for my indiscretion.

 

[dfphetteplace]

And saying "EA isn't Activision" is sorta like saying "Stalin isn't Hitler".

If anything, Stalin was more [http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm] genocidal than Hitler.

What does that have to do with this thread? Nothing.

 

[Lukeydoodly]

It's not Steam.

This forum is filled with Valve fanboys in case you have yet to notice.

 

[II2]

There have been a lot of threads about Origin, and everyone I've read has been filled with overwhelming hate for the platform and statements of what a terrible idea it is.

My question is: Why? Why so much hate for another distribution service?

That's sorta at the core of it. Generally people only use as few distribution services as possible because if they're throwing in with that means of acquisition, they want a central service they're comfortable with and trust.

EA is pissing a lot of people off by forcing the largest market share out of their comfort zone by using what's (rightly or wrongly) considered 'coersive' or 'backhanded' control of sought after exclusives, presumably on the gamble that "people will want it bad enough" to come in.

Basically it comes down to a big business publisher with a bad public image shoving themselves very intrusively between their devs/games and the consumer.

 

[Valdus]

Because EA are dicks? That's reason enough not to support them.

But theres also other factors. EA are very big fans of Draconian DRM and I don't think a lot of people are aware the Origins is basically just another form of it. It requires you to be online and purchase your games via it so it allows them to keep accurate tabs on who has bought what and if they've modded it or anything.

And well...there's the Steam buisness as well. Lately EA games have been dropping it and EA are "blamming" steam even though -they- violated the aggreement*. it just comes across as petty and that they have no intention of "becomming better", EA are evil pricks and I don't see that changing any time soon.

*Something which I find particularly infuriating since E.A have used agreement violations in the past to ban people from games even for something as small as posting a not-so-friendly post on their forum.

 

[kidd25]

yeah well, if you remember, Steam was also pure shit when it came out like 5 years ago, just give Origin time

i but its not that, its that people know EA one day who knows it might rival steam, but then hey we have the battlefield 3 vs COD 3 fight. they do the same thing, no really they do. if one person doesn't like the other they are a fanboy and fanboys on the internet is bad.

 

[JambalayaBob]

Yes, Steam has its problems, but they have shown an interest in trying to fix them. You can't be too harsh on them, since their LOW point on traffic is 2 million people, its not like those problems get fixed over night. EA's Origin is just a very thinly veiled cash-in on the popularity of other digital distribution services. They aren't happy getting a cut of the profit from other distributors, they want it all.

And what evidence do I have to back up this claim against EA? Project Ten Dollar, that's what. Punishing legitimate purchasers of a product, and yeah, they've stopped doing the DRM shit, but probably only because DRMs are very redundant outside of soft DRMs like Steam, and it took them this long to realize that. Speaking of Steam, offline mode works flawlessly for me, I really don't know what you're talking about. Plus, it's not like Steam requires your game to always be connected to the internet even when in online mode, it just verifies all your games on startup, that's all.

 

[Continuity]

I dont care how many DD platforms there are, so long as all publishers make all their catalogue available on all the the DD platforms, or at least certainly the big ones. EA pulling games from Steam is pissing a lot of people off and rightly so, maybe origin will be better (I doubt it) but we should have the choice to switch to it if we want... not be forced to because EA pulled their games off our platform of choice.

 

[TheMann]

For me, it's not so much a matter of hate as it is of healthy skepticism. I simply don't think that Origin will succeed, as least not nearly on the level that Steam has. On one side there is a relatively small, (260 employed) privately held company that has an excellent record of customer service and is rather well liked by both employees and customers. On the other side there is a huge monolithic, public corporate entity (8,000 employed) that has attempted hostile takeovers of other studios, [http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=19716] treats its employees like crap [http://www.gamespot.com/news/6112998/employees-readying-class-action-lawsuit-against-ea], and has pulled some pretty shady shit with their DRM.

Basically, Valve has a pretty good reputation with gamers. EA; not so much. There are plenty of things you could ***** about when it comes to Steam, but when a company with EA's track record wants to do the same thing with some very popular game titles, it's only natural that some people will be thinking "uh, oh".

 

[TheMann]

Oops, double post. My bad, guys.

 

[Wintermoot]

I prefer to have one account/client for all my games.
having multiple clients is just going to make everything cluttered.