Why the hate for violence.

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TheRobotandtheBeast

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Huhgh- I'm sorry what was this thread about again, i was busy challenging a bear to fisticuffs.
Have at you, hairy barista (punching noises)
 

Rayne870

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Donbett1974 said:
Violence is a major part of life all life. Without violence there be no sun no sex no growth. A world without violence is a frozen dead world. So why do so many people bad mouth violence.
I see what you did there, clever.
 

Sn1P3r M98

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Mittens The Kitten said:
Donbett1974 said:
Violence is a major part of life all life. Without violence there be no sun no sex no growth. A world without violence is a frozen dead world. So why do so many people bad mouth violence.
ARRRRR MATEY, without violence there be no sun
That got a laugh out of me :D

But OP, I really don't get what you're saying. Without violence there would be no sun, and no sex? It just doesn't make sense, sorry.
 

GotMalkAvian

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Violence is a possible solution, but I firmly believe that it should be a last resort. Hell, there are animals that resolve conflicts without resorting to violence, why can't we?

The biggest problem a lot of people have with violence today is that it's glorified. Violence is made to seem not only acceptable, but cool. It also seems that the more brutal and gratuitous the violence, the cooler it's supposed to be.

I'd just like to know why sex is somehow still more taboo to glorify than violence.
 

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jthwilliams said:
Catalyst6 said:
jthwilliams said:
Donbett1974 said:
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I'm just curious about your why you think violence = existance of the sun. If you are thinking violent reaction like the nuclear reaction that is the sun that is a very different mean of violence and basically means energetic.
It's simple. God woke up one day, went to a ball of gasses and said "I swear to myself, if you don't form a sun right now I'll punch you so hard it'll bring about the Big Crunch early".

Lrn2Science
Isn't that child abuse? I mean threatening his Sun like that. ;)
Well God is supposedly omnipresent, right? So it would be... flagellation? Self-abuse? By the stars and heavens, God is emo.
 

Donbett1974

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For those who ask about the sun it's a big engine consuming hydrogen to put out heat, radiation, and many other things the act of consuming, heating, radiating are the acts of violence. Violence comes in many forms isn't just about hitting.
 

Glerken

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Donbett1974 said:
Violence is a major part of life all life.
Wait...How?
Donbett1974 said:
Without violence there be no sun
Wait..What?
Donbett1974 said:
No rape maybe, but no sex?

I'd say people hate violence because it's so damn violent.

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Donbett1974 said:
For those who ask about the sun it's a big engine consuming hydrogen to put out heat, radiation, and many other things the act of consuming, heating, radiating are the acts of violence. Violence comes in many forms isn't just about hitting.
You can't equate a natural process to an act like rape or murder. You can go and say it's technically violence, but that's not what people think of when they hear the word violence and I think you know that.

No one is against the sun continuing to burn.
People are against murders.
No one is against the type of "violence" you're referring to in your original post.
 

jthwilliams

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Catalyst6 said:
jthwilliams said:
Catalyst6 said:
jthwilliams said:
Donbett1974 said:
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I'm just curious about your why you think violence = existance of the sun. If you are thinking violent reaction like the nuclear reaction that is the sun that is a very different mean of violence and basically means energetic.
It's simple. God woke up one day, went to a ball of gasses and said "I swear to myself, if you don't form a sun right now I'll punch you so hard it'll bring about the Big Crunch early".

Lrn2Science
Isn't that child abuse? I mean threatening his Sun like that. ;)
Well God is supposedly omnipresent, right? So it would be... flagellation? Self-abuse? By the stars and heavens, God is emo.
I lol'ed myself a bit.
 

FoOd77

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Island said:
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Personally, I feel very strongly about the saying "Might makes right". I can't think of any problem that can't be solved with force, granted enough is applied. Thats just the way the world works, isn't it? I think so.

My two cents, anyway.
so what your saying is if someones problem is that they need money, and they shoot you in the face, and take yours, then their answer to their problem is correct because they utilized enough force to solve it.

might doesn't make right, it just solves a problem by starting another one.
How would that make another problem? Wouldn't I be dead? If so, I have nothing to worry about! Certainly not a problem for me, anyways.
 

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TROLL ALERT!! The reference to sex being inherently violent makes it obvious. DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

That said, I guess our cells are committing violence every mintue of every day against bacteria and viruses, but that isn't what most people think of when they think of violence. At any rate, I believe we play violent videogames for the same basic reason kittens and puppies play hunter, and the same basic reason kids would play cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians- because most boys, and some girls, have an inherent instinct to play "warrior", possibly in preparation for adulthood, and the trials and dangers of adult life in the Stone Age.
 

CrazyCapnMorgan

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Violence has been human's answer, thus far, for nearly everything it has done and has solved most of the major issues the world has come to know.

For those that say violence shouldn't be an answer, please put yourself in a room with Sun Tzu, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hannibal, Zhuge Liang, Leonidas, Attila the Hun, Alexander the Great, William Wallace, Joan of Arc, Adolf Hitler, Dick Cheney and Colin Powell and try to imagine how the conversation would go. Assuming, of course, the atmosphere would be calm enough for words, not the dismembering of body parts, and that everyone could communicate and understand one another verbally.

That's not to say that violence SHOULD be the answer, either. Sadly, as human history has taught us, those who have strived for non-violent answers to worldly concerns have rarely met with success, and those that have succeeded, in whatever form, were either killed in the process or killed after the non-violent resistance.
 

jthwilliams

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TestECull said:
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TestECull said:
Knee-jerk reaction I guess. It always blows people's mind when I explain the sheer violence going on under the hood of their car when they start their engine.

Different meaning. Violence meaning energy and power. The OP was referencing violence in the sense of killing, maming, fighting, hurting. None of which happen in a car engine. (normally at least)
You do realise that an AK47 uses the exact same method to pop a fool that a 350 uses to pop a tire, right? Both use expanding gas produced by burning a chemical propellant in a confined area to propel a round metal object down a tube. Sure one's a high-powered killing tool and the other is a method of moving heavy objects around, but in the end they're both using expanding gas to do work.


Besides 350s are known for killing and maiming. They don't need an assault rifle's help for that. Just someone careless enough to wear a loose, long-sleeve shirt while adjusting the carb...
And an AKA isn't violent in the sense used by the OP: Shooting someone with a AKA is, but Shooting say a target wouldn't really be. I realise this could be honestly confusing because something canse be violent in 3 or 4 different senses of the word at the same time.

But ask yourself this. If you pop'ed the hood, turned on a car engine and put on TV for 5 hours do you really think people would be complaining because it was so violent.

So basically you are practicing straw man here. you are taking the arguement and turning it into something it clearly isn't to say it is ridiculous.
 

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Donbett1974 said:
For those who ask about the sun it's a big engine consuming hydrogen to put out heat, radiation, and many other things the act of consuming, heating, radiating are the acts of violence. Violence comes in many forms isn't just about hitting.
Then you sir need to refine your understanding of our hate, for nobody except the clown that lives in the dark void connected to all closets hates the chemical forms of violence.

But you already knew that, didn't you? Of course you did, you just pointed out that violence isn't just hitting, which means you knew all along people are against the hitting kind of violence. So instead of just sitting back and doing something more constructive you started a thread on a bogus premise for the premise of getting people riled.

You sir, are a troll.

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...or an idiot.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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It sounds like the OP was trying to make a comment about chemical reactions and fusion, but didn't have the intelligence to articulate it. He just made himself sound like a jerk...
 

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TestECull said:
jthwilliams said:
And an AK isn't violent in the sense used by the OP: Shooting someone with a AK is, but Shooting say a target wouldn't really be. I realise this could be honestly confusing because something canse be violent in 3 or 4 different senses of the word at the same time.
Violence is violence. Doesn't matter what type of violence it is.


It's like getting pissy because someone called a Suburban a car. It's being pedantic.

But ask yourself this. If you pop'ed the hood, turned on a car engine and put on TV for 5 hours do you really think people would be complaining because it was so violent.
Depends on whether or not the production team throws the x-ray filter on it. If they do, then yes, they would see the violence going on in there.


Just because the average joe doesn't know about it and can't see it doesn't mean it isn't violent.

So basically you are practicing straw man here. you are taking the arguement and turning it into something it clearly isn't to say it is ridiculous.
No, I'm not. I'm saying that violence is everywhere you look and that people need to get over their knee-jerk reaction to certain forms of it.

So what you are saying is that you think people who complain about violence in video games and TV are concerned about quick motion and chemical reactions? That there are a significant number of people in the world who find nondistructive but energetic movement disburbing and potentially an issue when children are exposed to them?

Because if you do believe that than, you are incorrect and can stop worrying. When they talk about violence on TV and in games, they mean the type that cuase harm to simulated living beings and/or is distructive and meant to be distructive. More over they gernally attach intent as accidental violence is usually exempt from peoples concerns except when talking about very small children.

If not, than you're clearly building a strawman to suggest there is hate out there for chemestry.