Probably because the people who say that stuff wish they were still young enough to act that way themselves.
Why the hate for young people?
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because they're arrogant fucks and they don't even know it.
if they would just sit down and shut up for a couple of years while their hormones work things out, it wouldn't be so bad. but no. they have to suck.
if they would just sit down and shut up for a couple of years while their hormones work things out, it wouldn't be so bad. but no. they have to suck.
The problem is that we have been raising a generation of kids who haven't been made responsible for the choices they make, and praised them for doing only achieving what is expected of them.
If too many kids fail a class, the teacher gets blamed for not doing her job while they ignore whether the students were even trying. Parents are always trying to find someone else to blame if their kid does something stupid and gets hurt or has a run in with the law. If not that they try the old "kids will be kids" excuse for their offspring not having the ability to actually realize that actions have consequences.
Plus parents (and society) reward or praise kids for not doing anything special. When I was a kid and played little league baseball or soccer they kept score and we played to win. We didn't want the little participation trophy, we wanted the big trophy that said 1st place on it. One of the greatest teachers in this world is failure, but society has spent so much time trying to keep kids away from it they never get the chance to really work for something where failure is a real and unchangeable end result.
So what we've ended up with is a generation of kids who think they can do whatever they want without consequence, that they will be praised for every little thing they do, and don't know what it's like to lose or fail.
If too many kids fail a class, the teacher gets blamed for not doing her job while they ignore whether the students were even trying. Parents are always trying to find someone else to blame if their kid does something stupid and gets hurt or has a run in with the law. If not that they try the old "kids will be kids" excuse for their offspring not having the ability to actually realize that actions have consequences.
Plus parents (and society) reward or praise kids for not doing anything special. When I was a kid and played little league baseball or soccer they kept score and we played to win. We didn't want the little participation trophy, we wanted the big trophy that said 1st place on it. One of the greatest teachers in this world is failure, but society has spent so much time trying to keep kids away from it they never get the chance to really work for something where failure is a real and unchangeable end result.
So what we've ended up with is a generation of kids who think they can do whatever they want without consequence, that they will be praised for every little thing they do, and don't know what it's like to lose or fail.
I believe the hate is because it's possible that elders secretly miss being young and carefree. I'm pretty sure when adults were teens, they acted naive, were hormone-controlled and lazy also. But probably to a lesser extent compared to today's society. It's just what I personally think, but I could be wrong.
There is also the issue of circumstance to consider here. The world we've grown up in is much different than the world older folks grew up in and the older generation doesn't always recognize that. Many of us were raised with the old adage that if we worked hard and got a degree, success in life was 'guaranteed', though this has been and still is shortsighted. While that sort of path worked in the past for many, the job market right now is so saturated, and the culture has driven itself to the belief that it is the piece of paper that is important, rather than the education we gain, are the major issues at work in our society.
The journey one takes, the mistakes one makes and how we apply our learning is what matters more, and it always has, but both the young and old don't always recognize that at first, and sometimes not at all because their predecessors often had a hard time understanding it themselves, as their perceived 'success' in finding a career and a life was based on a limited understanding of circumstance and timing. They obtained their degree, and thus they were hired, therefore believing the degree generates 'success', rather than how we use the education instead (and this includes the present hiring market today as most of them are of that generation. How many times have I heard people spout off the belief that a liberal arts degree is "useless", when it often provides a much broader education and world view than a particularized degree with its own unique skill set. It'd be a grand thing indeed if we could manage to combine both a liberal arts education and the education of said particularized degrees into a slightly longer and potentially cheaper program. One would think that humans would place the strength and growth of the species as the ideal over the exploitation of each other, but I digress too much).
Thus the ideals that applied 10, 20, to 50 or 60 years ago are passed on rather than the older generation recognizing the present situation as a new and different playing field with its own unique set of rules and opportunities. There is very little to ponder on why the younger generation of this time is much more apathetic than any other one previous. We were raised to believe that we were entitled to life, and that feeling cannot be fulfilled in the same manner as our predecessors. It's not something that can be told of course, it has to be learned on our own, otherwise it has no meaning to us individually.
Hard work is still going to be a factor in finding 'success', however you define that word, but ageism is if anything a great sign of the immaturity of the human race and how far we have yet to go.
The journey one takes, the mistakes one makes and how we apply our learning is what matters more, and it always has, but both the young and old don't always recognize that at first, and sometimes not at all because their predecessors often had a hard time understanding it themselves, as their perceived 'success' in finding a career and a life was based on a limited understanding of circumstance and timing. They obtained their degree, and thus they were hired, therefore believing the degree generates 'success', rather than how we use the education instead (and this includes the present hiring market today as most of them are of that generation. How many times have I heard people spout off the belief that a liberal arts degree is "useless", when it often provides a much broader education and world view than a particularized degree with its own unique skill set. It'd be a grand thing indeed if we could manage to combine both a liberal arts education and the education of said particularized degrees into a slightly longer and potentially cheaper program. One would think that humans would place the strength and growth of the species as the ideal over the exploitation of each other, but I digress too much).
Thus the ideals that applied 10, 20, to 50 or 60 years ago are passed on rather than the older generation recognizing the present situation as a new and different playing field with its own unique set of rules and opportunities. There is very little to ponder on why the younger generation of this time is much more apathetic than any other one previous. We were raised to believe that we were entitled to life, and that feeling cannot be fulfilled in the same manner as our predecessors. It's not something that can be told of course, it has to be learned on our own, otherwise it has no meaning to us individually.
Hard work is still going to be a factor in finding 'success', however you define that word, but ageism is if anything a great sign of the immaturity of the human race and how far we have yet to go.
Teenagers have to go to school/college and do the work assigned to that. Work jobs upwards to 30 hours or more per week. They do this all while accepting new responsibilities, watching their lives change and everything they grew up with go away, and do it all with more hormones pumping through them then is in fast food. They struggle with identity and try to find love and friendship that they hope will never go away.
Adults hate remembering this time in their life they truly do, and when they see young people they feel they have it better then they did which is part of where the hate comes from. But the truth is everyone goes through youth and even though its scary everyone has the ability to get through it.
Adults also claim their childhood was the best years of their life but this just isn't true in all cases, their is an article in fact I read once that actually says the opposite. (down below)
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better
Adults hate remembering this time in their life they truly do, and when they see young people they feel they have it better then they did which is part of where the hate comes from. But the truth is everyone goes through youth and even though its scary everyone has the ability to get through it.
Adults also claim their childhood was the best years of their life but this just isn't true in all cases, their is an article in fact I read once that actually says the opposite. (down below)
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better
I certainly don't see this as the "best" generation, but whatever you say.souper soup guy said:
Anyhow, it's because most teenagers base their choices on hormonal fury, making them idiots.
Teenagers are famed for being lazy, rebellious, uneducated, anti-social, smelly, so on. All because we've been on this earth for a shorter time than those pesky adults. It's basically showing off how old they are.
They've been on this planet longer, so they are entitled to be respected, and are literally good at everything. I kid of course.
-- Then the awkward moment when I realize i'm an adult... Fuck.
They've been on this planet longer, so they are entitled to be respected, and are literally good at everything. I kid of course.
-- Then the awkward moment when I realize i'm an adult... Fuck.
Because we see our younger selves, and many of us would like to punch our younger selves. At least, that's how I feel.
I didn't mean you specifically, just that how you phrased the part that I quoted is usually the standard. That's good that you only categorize people when you've dealt with them personally. That's exactly how things should work.ZeroMachine said:
?Kingsman said:
While there are certainly a majority of youngins on this site, I do not think there is any reason for you to fault the OP for even asking his question, as you deem his audience unfit for rational answer.
Myself, I think I sum up my opinion on todays youth (and I am young myself) as "spoilt little shits, mostly incapable of showing respect, have little to no understanding of proper moral and ethics, and are fat and/or lazy".
I mean, I grew up in a regular home here in Denmark, with a father, a mother, a younger sister and two older brothers. I do no longer live with my family, as I'm a bit too old for that, but I look upon people my own age, and those younger, and think to myself that they were raised wrong. Raised into trashtalking, having either an artificially inflated ego, or selfconfidence issues, and most of all, for the most part, seem devoid of knowledge of proper behaviour and etiquette.
I believe "youngsters" today just don't realise how lucky they are to live in a time like this, our generation and younger (for reference, I turn 26 this month) have had a lot just handed to us without having to work for it - good health, our freedoms, stability etc. when our parents will have been born into a family and a country still recovering from a global war and had to scratch and claw and work their knackers/knickers off for everything they've earned.
While our grandparents had to live/fight/survive through one or in some cases *two* world wars and then provide for a family in the aftermath.
We've never had to go to sleep wondering if we'll wake up safe to the dawn or in the middle of the night when a German bomb whistles towards your house.
Call me crazy but I reckon we could do with another war, a real war not this hide-and-seek with the Taliban bullshit, then maybe kids today would realise how good they have it.
Obviously another world war would be nothing but a tragic loss of life and should be avoided at all costs but you get the idea.
While our grandparents had to live/fight/survive through one or in some cases *two* world wars and then provide for a family in the aftermath.
We've never had to go to sleep wondering if we'll wake up safe to the dawn or in the middle of the night when a German bomb whistles towards your house.
Call me crazy but I reckon we could do with another war, a real war not this hide-and-seek with the Taliban bullshit, then maybe kids today would realise how good they have it.
Obviously another world war would be nothing but a tragic loss of life and should be avoided at all costs but you get the idea.