Why the hate towards retake mass effect? All I see is hate.

[Slash Joel]

First of all I believe all of this is an evil plot done by EA to money grub, so i'm just waiting to start saying I told you so to the two sides.

Yes they could have thought of a better name for the movement, but why the hate? Authors and directors change the ending to there books or movies all the time after fans give them feedback. Movies are test screened all the time and reshot depending on the feedback and Charles Dickens changed his books after feedback from friends. Art changes all the time and it is never veiwed as comprising it.

Why the hate?

All the group has done is mailed cupcakes, donate to charity, and their lasted plan to make 1000 paper cranes to send to Bioware and they make it clear that the aim not to grief any side. They must be the most horrible of villians out there.

They don't deserve the hate for wanting the end changed.

 

[Zhukov]

They didn't do themselves any favours with that name.

However, at this point I suspect a lot of the "hate" stems from people being just plain sick of hearing about the whole thing.

 

[way2sl0w]

haters gonna hate

 

[Fappy]

They didn't do themselves any favours with that name.

However, at this point I suspect a lot of the "hate" stems from people being just plain sick of hearing about the whole thing.

"Retake Mass Effect" is poking fun at "Retake Earth". How are people still missing that?! It's a joke!

 

[Lucem712]

I think people are just being rubbed the wrong way at this point. Though, it's gotten a-lot better in the last few days! (At least, I haven't noticed as many ME3 threads)

Honestly, If I felt really screwed over by a dev/publisher, I'd want the courage to vocalize it. Say what you will, but at least they were stead-fast.

 

[Zhukov]

They didn't do themselves any favours with that name.

However, at this point I suspect a lot of the "hate" stems from people being just plain sick of hearing about the whole thing.

"Retake Mass Effect" is poking fun at "Retake Earth". How are people still missing that?! It's a joke!

But the original tagline was "Take Earth Back".

 

[Fappy]

They didn't do themselves any favours with that name.

However, at this point I suspect a lot of the "hate" stems from people being just plain sick of hearing about the whole thing.

"Retake Mass Effect" is poking fun at "Retake Earth". How are people still missing that?! It's a joke!

But the original tagline was "Take Earth Back".

Yeah, you're right there. I suppose they just felt "Retake" had a better ring to it. The idea is still the same though even if it isn't a completely accurate satire.

 

[Asita]

Well, comments seem to imply the idea that True Art Is Angsty plays some role in it (though to what extent, I cannot say), but a more common theme seems to be a belief that doing so would be damaging to the concept of games as art, and that auteur theory should take priority over anything the fandom says, for good or ill[footnote]Mind you, auteur theory's application in this case is questionable at best due to it being the result of a collaborative effort between a team of writers (thereby rendering it a compromised vision than a true singular one from the get-go) and the fact that we already know via the Final Hours content that the game itself does not represent the team's vision due to gameplay issues forbidding it[/footnote].

Let me also just say that this video provides a rather interesting analysis of the situation:

 

[Fappy]

Well, comments seem to imply the idea that True Art Is Angsty plays some role in it (though to what extent, I cannot say), but a more common theme seems to be a belief that doing so would be damaging to the concept of games as art, and that auteur theory should take priority over anything the fandom says, for good or ill[footnote]Mind you, auteur theory's application in this case is questionable at best due to it being the result of a collaborative effort between a team of writers (thereby rendering it a compromised vision than a true singular one from the get-go) and the fact that we already know via the Final Hours content that the game itself does not represent the team's vision due to gameplay issues forbidding it[/footnote].

Let me also just say that this video provides a rather interesting analysis of the situation:

This video sums the issue up quite nicely.

 

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They didn't do themselves any favours with that name.

However, at this point I suspect a lot of the "hate" stems from people being just plain sick of hearing about the whole thing.

"Retake Mass Effect" is poking fun at "Retake Earth". How are people still missing that?! It's a joke!

Yeah while they were picking on the advertising line "Retake Earth" many people wouldn't have paid attention to the advertising, and to see the word Retake makes to the uninitiated that the movement is all about taking Mass Effect away from the developer.

Personally I'm just sick of hearing about people being upset over the ending. yeah it sucks, but why should it ruin all the fun you've had through all the games?

and another and possibly controversial view, Mass Effect wasn't a great RPG, and it didn't really have the best story in the world.

 

[distortedreality]

They didn't do themselves any favours with that name.

However, at this point I suspect a lot of the "hate" stems from people being just plain sick of hearing about the whole thing.

Very much this.

Am definitely over it.

 

[Blood Brain Barrier]

If we didn't love it so much, we wouldn't find the need to hate it.

 

[back pain]

Because they generally act like spoiled children that's why. (except for the charity thing, that was very nice)

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

They didn't do themselves any favours with that name.

However, at this point I suspect a lot of the "hate" stems from people being just plain sick of hearing about the whole thing.

"Retake Mass Effect" is poking fun at "Retake Earth". How are people still missing that?! It's a joke!

A joke that requires explanation is, as a general rule, a bad joke.

Personally, I don't direct any hate at them. I enjoyed Mass Effect 3. I felt that the ending was largely as good as it could have been. Stupid Deus Ex Machinas solving the problem was the only way that the Reaper problem could be solved. Loose threads are there for DLC.

Were I to direct any hate, it would probably be because I find it amusing that people look at a 10 minute cutscene and say, in short, that the whole series was ruined as a result (or just Mass Effect 3). Given that I enjoyed the 60 or 80 hours my character spent in the world, the underwhelming last ten minutes of the last game was hardly enough to destroy the experience.

This is the same reaction I have to the various claims that Lucas is destroying Star Wars or Bay is raping childhoods. If I had the capacity to hate one of the sides, I'd choose to hate those who cry their loud and lonely tears. That Han now shoots second doesn't change the simple fact that the Han I know shot first. That Transformers is terrible means little because I liked the show when I was a stupid child who loved the toys.

Perhaps the fact that my expectations were tempered with ME2 is the reason I don't have more venom to direct at Bioware. The decisions I made in the first game altered little in the second. The closing shot of the Reaper fleet and the revelation as to the how long they have performed their duty meant that the only way I could imagine victory was if someone pulled it from their ass.

I suppose the best equivalent is simply the Matrix. It opened well but then we knew so little about the strength of the machines. In the second, their strength is revealed to be absurd in comparison to the tiny force the humans had to defend themselves. And when Smith did not take a redemptive arc in the second film, the only option for a non deus ex machina ending was ruined leaving Neo to play Jesus in the end.

If there is a lesson to be learned here it is easy: if the second act of a story doesn't live up to the grand expectations you had when you knew next to nothing in the first, don't expect them to suddenly pull something incredible out at the end. If you do that, maybe you can enjoy the time you spend with them. If not, well I hope you at least have fun screaming at the indifferent about your unrealistic expectations.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

First of all I believe all of this is an evil plot done by EA to money grub. . .

EA is a publicly owned corporation who's sole duty is to make money for the investors. Thus, your point is moot on the simple basis that attempting to "money grub" is in keeping with its duty. The only way you could define EA as "evil" would be if you asserted that all companies operated for profit were likewise evil.

Their actions might be hostile to the consumer aim of paying as little as possible for a product, but such as been the struggle between buyer and maker since. . . well at least for as long as people decided to write things down.

 

[FalloutJack]

*Has not been in for a while*

Could somebody give me the cliffnotes to this please?

 

[Dark Knifer]

*Has not been in for a while*

Could somebody give me the cliffnotes to this please?

Basically, fans are really pissed off for the ending of Mass effect 3 due to its several plot holes, lack of any closure and rushed apperance, most game journalists are calling mass effect fans entitled, some fans are being reasonable, others are saying it ruins the entire franchise etc. Kinda like the last sequel bioware released...

 

[FalloutJack]

*Has not been in for a while*

Could somebody give me the cliffnotes to this please?

Basically, fans are really pissed off for the ending of Mass effect 3 due to its several plot holes, lack of any closure and rushed apperance, most game journalists are calling mass effect fans entitled, some fans are being reasonable, others are saying it ruins the entire franchise etc. Kinda like the last sequel bioware released...

Oh, so more of the same, then? I see. Well, since my girlfriend was fucking ecstatic about it, I'm going to just say that other people should reconsider their thinking. Mostly because RUINED FOREVER people are ridiculous.