Why the Hatred for Black Ops?

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Fidelias

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Well, first of all, it's completely unimaginative. Almost nothing was changed since CoD 4. I mean, not even the friggin HUD. It's true that you shouldn't fix what isn't broken, but you could try prettying it up a bit, especially in 3 YEARS.

But the biggest problem was the lag. It was horrendus. I have Verizon Fios. In EVERY OTHER GAME THAT I PLAY I have an excellent connection. I almost never get lag.

In Black Ops, I got lag every game. My dad got himself an xbox, and we played in the same house, in the same matches. We recorded some of our games, and it looked like a completely different match compared to what I saw on my screen.

So yeah, there were horrible lag issues, people are not making this up. And since this game is basically all about the multiplayer (the single-player is worth maybe 10 or 15 bucks, tops) it means that the game is basically a pile of crap.
 

theonlyblaze2

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I don't hate it. If anything, I love the CoD franchise. I think this comes from the fact that I have yet to pay more than a 6 dollar rental fee for one since Call Of Duty 2.
 

chuckey

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I thought that single player was alright but nothing spectacular. for me story wise, it was MW1>MW2>BO>WAW>MW3*

*I'm currently playing through MW3 right now but the story is just soooooo stupid right now. Like it's unbelievable how dumb it is. Not only that but they are jumping between two ridiculous plot lines so much that I get lost a bit.

OT:however all said and done, I think that it is a combination of deteriorating story telling and an aging engine. After a few years of this the engine is REALLY showing it's age. no amount of tweaking will change the fact that they are using an engine that is 6-7 years old. On top of that the developers are sacrificing story for multiplayer. The story in MW1 was so new and interesting at the time with plot twists in all the right places. MW2 was far fetched but still good, after that though, the series just went down as soon as the two main writers and developers left IF. and even more, the fact that the actually reuse same buildings and structures from previous games is terrible. most companies take at least 2 and a half years to bring out a sequel in order to add in new engines, features, and actually work on a story...

so long story short: 6-7 year old engine+bad storytelling+short development time = HATE
 

Shadowstar38

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The norm response you'll get here is "Its the same game" But Im one of the people that thinks Black Ops is really good.

1) The single player story was a little interesting for once.

2) The multiplayer is the best it ever was before, and has been even after Mw3 came out.

3) The weapons actually feel different from each other and not a copy paste job with stat changes.

The hate from Black Ops comes from the hate of COD as a whole, not that this one game was actually bad.
 

Grey Day for Elcia

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I played the living hell out of BlOps and loved every moment of it. Not my favourite game ever, or even in my top ten, but it was loads of fun for me. I'm not a "shooter person," but the newer Call of Duty games were quite fun. Modern Warfare 1 was kind of unique and I liked it, Modern Warfare the second refined the mechanics a bit and I loved it, and Black Ops was kinda more of the latter. But I've not picked up Modern Warfare 3 (or have any intention ever to do so) and won't be getting any future games under the name, either. I've had my fill, is all. Unless they do something akin to MW1 again, I don't need any more.

I think there's two main reasons for the vocal dislike of Black Ops (which is actually rather tiny): people just like to be different and an easy way to do that is to vocally declare your disliking or indifference to a much beloved franchise; and people like to appear "the most" of something, such as the most hardcore, or the most well read, so when something isn't quite the same as the previous games, people want to show others how "most into Call of Duty" they are and detest it.
 

Don Savik

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Download one dlc, and you get all the previous WaW zombie maps, making it better than World at War in terms of zombies. Point refuted. Also theres a DLC where you play as Danny Trejo.

Personally the weapon upgrading is a TRILLION times better than the previous cods were you had to farm points with specific weapons to get gear in a linear progression. F DAT SHIT. Black ops you could buy whatever you had the points for. Yea there were level restrictions but after playing a while it wasn't ever an issue.

The hundreds of multiplayer games I've played of it I have maybe had, 1 or 2 kids talking at the most, and half of the time they weren't annoying at all. And this is on xbox live, so people are over exaggerating if you ask me.

Also, its fun to hate CoD because it makes you seem cool.
 

Nazulu

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There were a lot of changes in Black Ops like delayed fire to the sniper rifles and crappy map design that annoyed the fans a fair bit. That's what I mainly heard.

If your talking about COD in general, that's because a lot of people like me find it pathetic they keep releasing the same game with little changes over and over more than anyone else.

Sober Thal said:
-'Why the Hatred for Black Ops?'-

Because the millions of people who enjoy the product, year after year, don't care enough to be bothered to complain like children about it.

Just because the vocal minority (internet forum kids) are loud and proud, doesn't mean there is any real hatred for any given thing.

It's all about minority community angst. They find a spot where their ideas sorta thrive, and it snowballs into people thinking that the loud voice actually holds some merit. We all (the rest of us real people) know it isn't true, but it's easier to let the vocal group feel better about themselves for the amount of effort they put in.

Yes, I just called people who don't agree with me 'not real people'.

That's the idea for the vocal minority. Otherwise they (we) wouldn't speak up. It' about us (them) feeling more important because of feelings. At the end of the day, numbers still speak louder than words tho... go figure.

CoD is 'King of Numbers'. Bow to it's superiority.
Then there are immature people like Sober Thal who generalise the ones who complain because they think high numbers equal fact when all it is just popular opinion.

Seriously, grow up. Just because you encounter a lot of jerks on one side, doesn't mean being a jerk back makes it right.
 

MPerce

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I don't hate it, it's just.....well, the exact same COD since this Modern Warfare ball got rolling. The franchise has become the Madden of "hardcore" gaming: take the game before it, make the tiniest of tweaks, re-release it. You would have to have played MW2 a crapload to notice the changes they made for MW3; my younger brother is one of those people, and the only thing he's noticed is that "the grenades and noob tube aren't as overpowered."

At least Halo has the decency to throw some big wrench into the multiplayer each time to sorta spice things up (dual-wielding in Halo 2, Forge in Halo 3, and armor abilities in Reach).

I still had a great time with Black Ops, same as I have with every COD game, so I'm not gonna hate on the people who love the games. They're just not my thing.
 

Trippy Turtle

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MW2 was the only amazing CoD and black ops was okay. As far as most CoD games are it was pretty damn good.
 

MPerce

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imahobbit4062 said:
You are aware CoD made the same or similar changes?

MW2 introduced Dual Wielding
Black Ops introduced Theatre
All of them have had new or revamped perks.
True, but for me personally they didn't change up the core of the game enough to compel me to buy anything after MW2 (I've borrowed my brother's since then). I barely noticed these changes with the exception of altered killstreaks, whereas the Halo stuff I mentioned completely altered how you should approach a match.

Of course, I'm speaking from a slanted perspective. I've played Halo much more than COD, so I probably notice the nuanced changes between games more than the average person, much like how my brother can for COD games. And really, I shouldn't be comparing their gameplay in the first place since they're very different types of FPS's.

Both franchises are very guilty of not evolving much. I just happen to like the small changes Halo made more. :)
 

JochemHippie

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Probably the best CoD game they've released recently, only second to CoD4.
Multiplayer was honestly not as bad, hope Treyarch makes another one soon.
 

GundamSentinel

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Locke_Cole said:
GundamSentinel said:
EcksTeaSea said:
Because using the same formula over and over is a crime to gamers, even though the formula is good and millions of people enjoy the game.
See, that's the part that I don't get. It's a crime to gamers even though gamers enjoy it? I can't exactly put my finger on it, but there's a paradox in there somewhere.

Why won't people just enjoy the games they like and leave others to their own preferences?
Stagnation of any kind is bad. We as humans are very happy with where we are technologically...Does that mean we should stop progressing and stay where we are?
Stagnation of any kind is bad? No it isn't. I can think of hundreds of companies that have been living off of the same product range for dozens of years and have been very successful because of it. And as a consequence, many consumers have been able to get a product that lived up to wishes and expectations, even though they might not be your wishes and expectations. Forcefully trying to progress and implementing new technology, now that can be a bad thing, for both company and consumer. I say: don't blame the farmer for farming potatoes, just because you don't like potatoes.

Also, I don't see how Black-Ops being very iterative has anything to do with humanity's technological progression. If you're looking to Activision and Treyarch for technological progression, you're just looking in the wrong place. If I want a novel game, I'll go see what thatgamecompany has to offer, if I want a game with guaranteed and proven features, I'll go play Call of Duty.