Why the Skyrim boycott is a waste of time and missing enjoyment.
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The point of a boycott is to hurt sales and if you think that's what going to happen, then it isn't a waste of time. How is it going to hurt everyone? How is a boycott of Skyrim going to hurt anyone except Bethesda/Zenimax?Saviordd1 said:
What are they standing for? If you don't know then you shouldn't have started a thread saying they are wrong.
Well, I disapprove of your disapproval. It is a waste of time. Not because it will hurt sales, but because it's a waste of time. If you want to make the world a better place, take your Skyrim boycott energy and go volunteer at a homeless shelter. Or go get involved in politics and try to help instigate grassroots change so the ass backwards legal system that promotes these pointless nuisance lawsuits gets overhauled. Or do ANYTHING, other than hanging around an internet forum going "nyah Bethesda I won't buy your game", when we both know perfectly well this impotent saber rattling will amount to precisely naught in the grand scheme of things.Crono1973 said:
Firstly, who/what the hell is Notch? I read the whole post and no explanation!
Secondly, I am going to buy Skyrim.
Secondly, I am going to buy Skyrim.
Yep that sums it up there. Though for every awesome thing Bethesda do they seem to equal it out with well an underhanded deed now.Terminate421 said:
Exactly and it shows that gamers do have limits. That we aren't just druggies who will do/ignore anything for our next fix. That's what some gamers sound like to me, "I don't care about anything but getting my hands on ".SirBryghtside said:
You're right, Notch isn't the little man. He is just morally in the right. And Bethesda's lawyers are not. I'm making a decision on my thoughts on this case based on the facts, not out of some desire to like obscure things. The fact that notch is not obscure and poor does not make him automatically wrong.
Notch acted flippantly because they think they own a word. They sent a cease and desist letter over the use of a single word. A WORD. A common english word. And that shit is crazy. How can you not act flippantly about that? He proposed a solution that makes more sense then what Bethesdas lawyers are proposing as a problem, in the hope of ending the whole fiasco with no hard feelings. That's respectable.
Yes, they can sue notch. That is their right. I also have the right to believe that I invented the letter Q, but that doesn't make that opinion less crazy, or a random passerby any less in the right to think that I am whacked out of my skull. Because if I believes that, they would be right.
Honestly, this anti-boycott thing is either Bethesda fanboys doing the exact same thing they are accusing Notch fanboys of doing, or mindless rage at the very concept of boycotting based on the foolish actions of past boycotts. Boycotts have a purpose. They show the person doing the selling that they are accountable for there actions. Personally I think it would be better to just say, "Im not buying Skyrim because that lawesuit is dumb", but hey, the army you have, right? The ideal situation is that enough people decide to boycott (And given how obviously crazy Bethesdas people are being, the number shouldn't need to be too high. You don't want to join the boycott, no ones forcing you and the effort won't be wasted if you don't) and they decide to stop with their frivolous lawsuit, and then everyone buys Skyrim. That's the ideal situation here, and that is a good situation.
Notch acted flippantly because they think they own a word. They sent a cease and desist letter over the use of a single word. A WORD. A common english word. And that shit is crazy. How can you not act flippantly about that? He proposed a solution that makes more sense then what Bethesdas lawyers are proposing as a problem, in the hope of ending the whole fiasco with no hard feelings. That's respectable.
Yes, they can sue notch. That is their right. I also have the right to believe that I invented the letter Q, but that doesn't make that opinion less crazy, or a random passerby any less in the right to think that I am whacked out of my skull. Because if I believes that, they would be right.
Honestly, this anti-boycott thing is either Bethesda fanboys doing the exact same thing they are accusing Notch fanboys of doing, or mindless rage at the very concept of boycotting based on the foolish actions of past boycotts. Boycotts have a purpose. They show the person doing the selling that they are accountable for there actions. Personally I think it would be better to just say, "Im not buying Skyrim because that lawesuit is dumb", but hey, the army you have, right? The ideal situation is that enough people decide to boycott (And given how obviously crazy Bethesdas people are being, the number shouldn't need to be too high. You don't want to join the boycott, no ones forcing you and the effort won't be wasted if you don't) and they decide to stop with their frivolous lawsuit, and then everyone buys Skyrim. That's the ideal situation here, and that is a good situation.
The OP doesn't strike me as being quite as flagrant with the hand wringing and self-aggrandizement of the "I AM BOYCOTT THE SKYRIM" crowd.Crono1973 said:
Your forgetting that not every gamer in the world is either a hater or devout follower of Morrowind and Oblivion. Personally, I like the newer Fallout games, but I never played either Morrowind or Oblivion. I was kinda interested in Skyrim, but this little fiasco has turned me off from the game. But if they man up and admit they were wrong, that shows the kind of reason and ability to fix past mistakes that make for good developers, and my interest will be peaked again. And since the lawsuit is frivolous anyways, it shouldn't take many fence-sitters to make Bethesdas people wise up.Terminate421 said:
I agree that Bethesda does ahve a point about Elder Scrolls and Scrolls getting mixed up but boycotting a game isn't a waste of time. Mojang has a huge fanbase which could lead to a huge loss of sales for Bethesda. This could stop a cumpany they (the boycotter) like losing a lot of money. There are also a lot of Minecraft fans who are still going to buy Skyrim.
The Quake 3 game could also get good publicity for both Bethseda and Mojang. It is a sighn that Mojang is growing from a small indie company and Bethesda aren't greedy and just suing because they can.
The Quake 3 game could also get good publicity for both Bethseda and Mojang. It is a sighn that Mojang is growing from a small indie company and Bethesda aren't greedy and just suing because they can.
Alright, you've won me over. OP, you're being silly. Go do something constructive with your day.Crono1973 said:
for every one person boycotting the game Skyrim over their grievances with the watchdog legal team (something entirely separate from the developers team) there will be approx. 1,431 that have already pre-ordered it.
why?
because even if they are fans of mojang and notch, they seem to understand that the legal battle has nothing to do with the Skyrim team, it's the company's legal proxies watching out for the interest of the people who pay them. boycotting skyrim will not have a chance of affecting the sales projections of the game much less the CONTRACTS between Bethesda and her legal teams.
these actions are about as stupid as boycotting a grocery store because they have an overzealous security guard.
why?
because even if they are fans of mojang and notch, they seem to understand that the legal battle has nothing to do with the Skyrim team, it's the company's legal proxies watching out for the interest of the people who pay them. boycotting skyrim will not have a chance of affecting the sales projections of the game much less the CONTRACTS between Bethesda and her legal teams.
these actions are about as stupid as boycotting a grocery store because they have an overzealous security guard.
So your argument is because what their doing what the dictionary says is the definition of their action then its not a waste of time. So if I pace back forth according to its definition I'm not wasting time right? No, I am, I'm wasting a lot of time.Crono1973 said:
Its hurting everyone because people who want to enjoy the game are going to not buy it because they want to be on some none existent moral high ground.
They're saying that Notch is totally innocent and they don't want him to get sued, yes, that's the reason, also some mixing of "The corporations are crapping on the little dude" don't believe me? Maybe you should read their arguments yourself
It's also juvenile and pointless to address someone in such a polemic fashion for sharing an opinion on a forum which is driven entirely by the sharing and discussion of opinions.Crono1973 said:
You know what really buggers me. People are buying EA games, and enjoy them. Why don't we boycott EA simply for being EA in the first place?
They deserve the hatred it more than "Skyrimcraft: The Mojangsdesert Scrolls" Or was "Fallcraft: Rainbow Six New Vegas" These names are pretty confusing nowadays.
You know, I'm boycotting EA since the Mac Version of SimCity 2004. And it works pretty well.
"Oooh, that looks like an interesting game. Let me see, aaah, it's published by EA, so maybe not."
It works pretty well, except for the Bioware franchise, but even someone so almighty as myself does have his weak spot.
If you want to boycot something, do it quietly. It helps, because boycotting something without knowing all relevant facts is stupid AND knowing all the facts is most likely impossible.
Now - My dear fellow escapist readers, just let me add that I preordered Sykrim months ago. And my sadistic little heart revels in the joy that I will be playing SKYRIM with a big fat sexy smile on my face while some others can't bear its name any longer, even cancelled their order just because they sided with the "wrong" company! That just makes SKYRIM so much better than "Oblivioncraft: The Tribunal" and all of its copycats.
They deserve the hatred it more than "Skyrimcraft: The Mojangsdesert Scrolls" Or was "Fallcraft: Rainbow Six New Vegas" These names are pretty confusing nowadays.
You know, I'm boycotting EA since the Mac Version of SimCity 2004. And it works pretty well.
"Oooh, that looks like an interesting game. Let me see, aaah, it's published by EA, so maybe not."
It works pretty well, except for the Bioware franchise, but even someone so almighty as myself does have his weak spot.
If you want to boycot something, do it quietly. It helps, because boycotting something without knowing all relevant facts is stupid AND knowing all the facts is most likely impossible.
Now - My dear fellow escapist readers, just let me add that I preordered Sykrim months ago. And my sadistic little heart revels in the joy that I will be playing SKYRIM with a big fat sexy smile on my face while some others can't bear its name any longer, even cancelled their order just because they sided with the "wrong" company! That just makes SKYRIM so much better than "Oblivioncraft: The Tribunal" and all of its copycats.