The Qunari are a bloodthirsty lot, and not entirely human. Sten leaves on some sort of quest (I haven't engaged him in conversation enough to find out what), so he certainly was not forced to go to Ferelden. And he helps the PC because you set him free. He's grateful, to a point. I see nothing wrong with this.
Why wasn't Dragon age declared racist?
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Sten made his own way to Ferelden, he was sent to investigate the Blight his leader had heard about. As has also been said, if you've made it to a point where you've gained Sten as a party member, you know his backstory, and why he is in the cage. He's also no more or less of a servant then any of the other characters, at least that I found.LaughingAtlas said:
EDIT: It would seem everything I said has already been said, feel free to ignore this post.
These groups tend to dig at the surface of games to find complaint, without digging too deep.
You've done the opposite here. It's just, the groups that jump on these things wouldn't over-evaluate it - or evaluate it at all.
You've done the opposite here. It's just, the groups that jump on these things wouldn't over-evaluate it - or evaluate it at all.
I never thought of Sten as black. I always thought of the Qunari were something of an islamic people. Not all that similar of course, but I thought that was their closest real world equivalent.
Though they really don't have a real world analogue, they're more along the lines of mythical giants, or something.
On a somewhat unrelated note: Their women are hot, but they don't appear, even in Dragon Age 2
Though they really don't have a real world analogue, they're more along the lines of mythical giants, or something.
On a somewhat unrelated note: Their women are hot, but they don't appear, even in Dragon Age 2
Yes, thank you.00slash00 said:
Thought: some people here seem to have had similar knee-jerk reactions to those that do the hate-rallying; not really paying attention, but getting their spines in a knot nonetheless...
Is it not more racist/majorly stereotypical to point out one (for the sake of argument) black character who has a penchant for violence and simply stating the writer is making out that all black people are like this? In this case it simply wasn't true of bioware's intentions for the character. But to take the character out of context and saying "look, this black man has been made to appear violent and mischievous, that's racist!"... Well no, and to even suggest it is, is just drawing up some pre-meditated stereotypes... If anything, that is just largely distasteful to begin with...
Sten did not come off as being subjected to racism to me at all, he lost his sword, got angry and killed an entire family. That is worth being put in a cage and left to rot imo. Just because hes darker-skinned doesn't mean that its racist for him to be in a cage and to for him to be in debt to you when you free him.
When I saw this thread title I assumed you were going to refer to the city elves if anything. They are treated like 2nd class citizens the whole game, even once your a Grey Warden, they get put into a tiny sprawled, dirty area of the city, and are constantly abused by the human guards and officials (city elf starting story anyone?).
When I saw this thread title I assumed you were going to refer to the city elves if anything. They are treated like 2nd class citizens the whole game, even once your a Grey Warden, they get put into a tiny sprawled, dirty area of the city, and are constantly abused by the human guards and officials (city elf starting story anyone?).
Because that would be silly, and I'd like to think that most people are beyond that.
That's not hard to fix. http://www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=69DustyDrB said:
Because Bioware ALWAYS puts a person who tends to be on the Homicidal side of life in their games. Kotor had HK, Mass Effect had Wrex and Grunt and Dragon Age has Sten.
Not to mention that as a fantasy game with races and creatures that don't exist in reality, I don't see many people calling the race card because of it. I mean the only real reason they called Porno on Mass Effect was because one of your love partners could be human. I don't think they really cared about the fact that you could also choose Liara.
Not to mention that as a fantasy game with races and creatures that don't exist in reality, I don't see many people calling the race card because of it. I mean the only real reason they called Porno on Mass Effect was because one of your love partners could be human. I don't think they really cared about the fact that you could also choose Liara.
LaughingAtlas said:
My guess is, it wasnt flagged as racist, because we were all too busy looking everywhere ELSE for racism.
Enough is enough, people. Racism wont go away until we as a people stop pointing our fingers at everything and saying "Racist! That's racist!!".
It also wont go away if we are still analyzing things, and asking ourselves "Is this racist? Could it possibly be?"
Stop looking for it, and I think you will find there is actually alot less of it then you would believe.
(Dont know why I bother, though. Society cannot exist if it doesnt have an imaginary boogeyman to worry about.)
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Whenever I think of Sten, Shepherd Book (especially in Serenity[the corn rows]) always pops into my head.
I never really bothered with Sten. He was too much of a non responsive grumpy dick for me to even want to chat with him. Although, he didn't say much and this earns him infinite points because..well, you know.. It's Dragon Age: Origins.
I never really bothered with Sten. He was too much of a non responsive grumpy dick for me to even want to chat with him. Although, he didn't say much and this earns him infinite points because..well, you know.. It's Dragon Age: Origins.
Don't read into things that aren't there. You are making connections that are minuscule at best and have no relevance when you look at these things in a bigger picture. This is coincidence, at most, as I am very certain the guys at Bioware who wrote for these characters didn't have pure racist intentions in mind.LaughingAtlas said:
The reason is that Dragon Age wasn't the sort of game that 15-year-olds whined constantly their parents to buy them, and so the people who pick up on how "bad" games are probably never even knew the game existed at all.
Also, I'm amazed at all the people who completely missed the original poster's point.
Also, I'm amazed at all the people who completely missed the original poster's point.
This is why we can't have nice things. I'm serious. It's people like you (not necessarily you) who pick out insignificant details and attribute stupid and utterly false garbage to it. I'll be no one else thought of it that way. Why? Because we aren't racist.LaughingAtlas said:
As to why nobody has jumped on it, I guess Fox News wasn't interested in getting more hate mail from gamers world-wide.
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Sten never appeared to be look like "dark-skin" person to me. He wasn't depicted as psychotic either, in fact he was probably my favorite character in the game. Very much like Conan, the Barbarian, his views, philosophies, and outlook on the land of Ferelden were alien to everyone there. He was part of a patrol into Ferelden that was attacked by Darkspawn, Sten lost his sword, an extreme blow to his honor and people, and as such he could not go back to his people without it. Losing his sword threw him into a berserker rage and he killed a family. Thus he ended up in a gibbet. Thank you for listening to my super dork soap box, good night.