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RabbidKuriboh

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I found out that the ability to force your pokemon to lv100 for battles has been removed! This pretty much alienates me and many other people from trying to get into competitive battling, instead of getting us to focus on more strategic aspects like ev training or iv breeding they force us to grind to riddiculous levels to even stand any chance

this just pisses me the fuck right off!
 

NeutralDrow

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I have no idea what you're talking about, and thus why it's worth getting angry about. What exactly does "forcing your pokemon to level 100" mean?
 

Radeonx

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http://projectpokemon.org/editing/pokesav/
Last time I checked Pokesav still works fine.
 

Shoggoth2588

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I'm more annoyed by the Pokedex; namely, they no longer have foreign Dex-entries for the Pokemon you trade over from foreign games.
 

Radeonx

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NeutralDrow said:
I have no idea what you're talking about, and thus why it's worth getting angry about. What exactly does "forcing your pokemon to level 100" mean?
You can use things(Such as a Pokesav, see my above post if you want) to edit all of your Pokemon's level to 100 and max out their stats.
Some people who don't want to EV train (IE: A lot of competitive battlers) use this to create as many competitive teams as they want and play the meta-game.
 

Casetwo

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Forcing pokemon to level 100 is a way to even the playing field in online battles with other players. No matter the level of the pokemon when you fight each other you will have all level 100's. When the battle is over the pokemon goes back to it's original level.
 

RabbidKuriboh

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NeutralDrow said:
I have no idea what you're talking about, and thus why it's worth getting angry about. What exactly does "forcing your pokemon to level 100" mean?
it means that for battles only both yours and your opponent's pokemon are put to lv 100 making it fair and easier to make ev training worthwhile
 

Geo Da Sponge

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Radeonx said:
http://projectpokemon.org/editing/pokesav/
Last time I checked Pokesav still works fine.
Thread has been answered. Time for a derail:

Is it just me or is the logo for International Women's Day a bit... suggestive?
 

Solo-Wing

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Radeonx said:
NeutralDrow said:
I have no idea what you're talking about, and thus why it's worth getting angry about. What exactly does "forcing your pokemon to level 100" mean?
You can use things(Such as a Pokesav, see my above post if you want) to edit all of your Pokemon's level to 100 and max out their stats.
Some people who don't want to EV train (IE: A lot of competitive battlers) use this to create as many competitive teams as they want and play the meta-game.
I Don't understand why you would use a Pokesav if you got a AR you could just easily get 999 Rare candies. Done and Done.
The things people believe that Rare Candies don't boost your pokemon the same as training is downright lies. They do not change your pokemons base stat. The boosts they get would be the same as training.
 

MetaMop

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*bursts in through door*
WHAT? WHAT'S THE TROUBLE!? I called the SAS, the USMC, I got my machineguns and I rushed over as quickly as I -- oh. Hm. Pokemon. I'll just let myself out...*fixes door and leaves*
 

zehydra

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So you're mad that they're making you play by the rules?

tsk tsk.

Why bother getting your pokemon to level 100 anyway? Just create a competitive system where all the competitors have to be at some level under 100. Like 25 or something.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Radeonx said:
http://projectpokemon.org/editing/pokesav/
Last time I checked Pokesav still works fine.
Thread has been answered. Time for a derail:

Is it just me or is the logo for International Women's Day a bit... suggestive?
YOU ARE MY HERO
 

USSR

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Thread has been answered. Time for a derail:

Is it just me or is the logo for International Women's Day a bit... suggestive?
I can't breath.
I literally fell put of my chair. You have brightened my day so much XD
 

teutonicman

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jh322 said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
Radeonx said:
http://projectpokemon.org/editing/pokesav/
Last time I checked Pokesav still works fine.
Thread has been answered. Time for a derail:

Is it just me or is the logo for International Women's Day a bit... suggestive?
YOU ARE MY HERO
Fisting, something to be celebrated by all people.
 

Radeonx

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Justin Tarrant said:
Radeonx said:
NeutralDrow said:
I have no idea what you're talking about, and thus why it's worth getting angry about. What exactly does "forcing your pokemon to level 100" mean?
You can use things(Such as a Pokesav, see my above post if you want) to edit all of your Pokemon's level to 100 and max out their stats.
Some people who don't want to EV train (IE: A lot of competitive battlers) use this to create as many competitive teams as they want and play the meta-game.
I Don't understand why you would use a Pokesav if you got a AR you could just easily get 999 Rare candies. Done and Done.
The things people believe that Rare Candies don't boost your pokemon the same as training is downright lies. They do not change your pokemons base stat. The boosts they get would be the same as training.
Except that rare candies don't give EV's, which battling pokemon does.
Plus, a Pokesav is A LOT faster.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Radeonx said:
http://projectpokemon.org/editing/pokesav/
Last time I checked Pokesav still works fine.
Thread has been answered. Time for a derail:

Is it just me or is the logo for International Women's Day a bit... suggestive?
Also, the fist seems to be... upside down?
 

Sejs Cube

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Ssssso the complaint is that you don't get to have level 100s that you didn't earn?

I fail to see the problem in this.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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Sejs Cube said:
Ssssso the complaint is that you don't get to have level 100s that you didn't earn?

I fail to see the problem in this.
Given that the game's mechanics are such that, if the difference in level between two pokemon is significant enough, a player acting at random will still be able to win 100 percent of the time, I'd say it isn't at all strange that you would remove this from the equation altogether. Furthermore, given that Pokemon play, as far as I understand it, revolves around building a team that maximizes strengths and minimizes flaws (or anything in between), it would seem that a key component to being successful at the game in a competitive sense is to have access to as many pokemon as possible. If we consider this in conjunction with the first point, it seems natural that any competitive player would thus want access to every pokemon at the level cap. If the only way to get to the level cap is through the act of grinding (something that, for a single pokemon, might take tens of hours to complete), the achievement would thus go not to the person with the most clever team selection and skill/item usage but rather to the person who simply spent more time playing the game.

Thus the game would reward dedication to play, even bad play rather than sound strategy (team selection) and tactics (item/move usage).