Why won't Apple have games developed for it?
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Pretty bad exaggeration.eggdog14 said:
If developers coded in a multi-platform language (eg Python) and used a multi-platform audio/visual backend (eg OpenGL/OpenAL) you could get games that would work on any system. Of course, this is more complex since you need people who actually know how to code rather than how to write a language. Or just someone who knows how to write in the right language
No. Remember? Windows is only good for spreadsheets. And all windows users are mature, but Mac users are cool! [/sarcasm][HD said:
I figure it just isn't worth a game company's time to put their game out for Macs. They have to adapt it to OSX, and they won't sell many copies. So why bother?
For some inexplicable reason EA is publishing more games for OSX these days, and I just heard Call of Duty 4 is coming to Macs as well.
I don't understand this at all since anyone who is really into games, and owns a Mac new enough to play new games will undoubtedly be running Boot Camp, and simply purchase the Windows version of a game. That's what I do.
For some inexplicable reason EA is publishing more games for OSX these days, and I just heard Call of Duty 4 is coming to Macs as well.
I don't understand this at all since anyone who is really into games, and owns a Mac new enough to play new games will undoubtedly be running Boot Camp, and simply purchase the Windows version of a game. That's what I do.
Yeah, but a reasonably powerful graphics card for a notebook is still fair to middling compared to desktop cards, unless you have one of those ridiculous Dell things with SLI notebook graphics cards, and rip your arms out of your sockets if you try and pick them up.braincore02 said:
Well Irrelevant I am sure there are people running macs out there who don't have a copy of Windows and even if they did do not feel like going through the hassle of dual booting just to play a game. I know I would like to run the games I play natively in Linux rather than having to dual boot for that purpose.
Looks like you're right: a quick Google says MacBooks and Mac Minis use integrated graphics [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_processing_unit#Integrated_graphics_solutions] while iMacs and Mac Pros have dedicated graphics cards. (I'm writing this on a Macbook.)ComradeJim270 said:
It still feels like a hardware problem. I remember seeing Second Life running on a year-old iMac and a five-year-old run-of-the-mill Windows PC at the same time: the PC blew the Mac away, running far more smoothly even with the graphics settings turned up much higher.
Never underestimate how tech-phobic the average computer user is. Talk to most people, whether Mac or Windows users, young or old, about having two operating systems on one machine and they'll look at you like you're a mad street preacher. I love computers, I use mine all day every day, but I still cbf installing Windows on my Mac. I'm seriously considering buying an equivalent PC just for games. And silly as it may be, that makes me the normal one.The Irrelevant Gamer said:
But are developers going to think that way? It would be a big gamble for them to act on that logic, even if, as individuals, the people making the decisions shared that sentiment.Fraser.J.A said:
Another thing I'm surprised nobody mentioned... PC developers almost never port their own games to Mac. They usually don't even look for someone else to do it. A Mac developer has to approach them and ask "Hey, can we port your game for you?". If the latter company doesn't feel it's a sound investment to port something, they aren't likely to risk it. The PC developers probably couldn't do it themselves even if they wanted to, because, for now at least, they don't have people who know how.
I think what it really comes down to is that Apple feels they need to get their own software (OS X) a larger audience before other companies can develop other software to run on it. Not the most adventurous or exciting decision, but when you're competing against Microsoft, adventurous and exciting is probably not the best approach.
Apple is lucky to be in buisness, i remember a certian situation where Microsoft had to pull them out of bankruptcy...
I just find it hard to believe they can't develop a gaming solution considering the comeback they've made. I'm not an OS zealot of any color and I would think it would benefit us consumers if Apple could compete with Microsoft again. With the profit they've gotten due to the various "i" things, I think they're probably in the best position they can be.
They don't think that, though, and until they do, they're trying to play it safe.General Ma Chao said:
You're completely right! I got that exact reaction when I told my friend that I intended to put Windows onto my macbook. He's reasonably good with computers too, even after explaining really slowly he thought I was crazy. Even my mate who's a I.T. technician (or whatever they're called) took some convincing.Fraser.J.A said:
You have a point. Almost all of my friends are tech savvy enough that dual booting, and partitions don't seem like street preacher territory so I tend to forget not everyone is a colossal nerd. Boot Camp is incredibly easy to set up, but I'm sure the very idea of the undertaking is too much for the people who can't install their own operating systems.Fraser.J.A said: