WHY WON'T YOU DIE!!

[viranimus]

Lets discuss bad ideas, that despite being bad and even better alternatives being available, still commonly appear.

While this can apply to video games as well, this is something that applies to all products

Spoiler: Hot dog Hell

So on the menu this evening is Hotdogs.

Which invariably common hotdog buns have this bad habit that you can barely open them, and even if you are as careful as possible they often will end up opening up all the way through until its not so much a bun as it is two pieces of bread trying to hold a round piece of food and end up with a handful of condiments/toppings. This is common regardless of brand or ingredients, that there IS an alternative. Instead of the traditional Side cut buns, there have long been Split top buns that protect against this breakage by having a thick bulk of bread for the hotdog to rest.

This is NOT a new thing, they have been around for years. So it makes me wonder why is it that the standard hotdog bun, is still the impractical side split bun when something clearly superior has been around for ages.

Spoiler: Flip top lids

Another example is back in the 1980s there was an advent of the "flip top" for tubes of tooth paste. The "idea" was it would be more efficient because instead of having to twist a lid 3 or 4 times you just flip the lid and dispense tooth paste. Only problem is that you would not get 1/10th of the way through a tube before the flip top becomes gummed up with toothpaste and eventually gets to the point where you can no longer shut the cap and each time you brush your teeth you are brushing with what ever the half opened lid was exposed to. Yet even today most toothpaste comes with the stupid flip top lids.

Example: the one on the right was notoriously horrible about being gummed up.

Certainly an idea that should not have lingered around for a quarter century.

It solved a problem no one ever asked to be solved and in the process caused its own unsanitary problem.

So what things are still commonly seen that should have died out ages ago?

 

[krazykidd]

Red pants. No you do not look good in them, ever. Now take them off and set them on fire, and wear normal color pants ( which is any other color than red).

 

[tippy2k2]

Motion/Voice Controls

Yes, it looked awesome in Minority Report. It's not awesome in real life.

There are very very very very very very few games that it works for and even the games it does work for, it doesn't work very well. It doesn't have any tactile feedback, making it unwieldy and useless. It has trouble recognizing the difference between...well....anything really; I can stand there and the Kinect will detect the dog in the background, screwing up everything because it can't tell the difference between me and my four legged friend. With that, my UFC Trainer (workout game for the 360) would constantly pause itself because it would hear noises (the game's volume on the TV) and pause. Lastly, just about everything motion/voice controls control can be done just as well or better using this new fangled "controller" technology.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

My biggest problem with hotdogs is that they're so fucking hard to separate from each other once you've frozen them.

 

[MysticSlayer]

This is NOT a new thing, they have been around for years. So it makes me wonder why is it that the standard hotdog bun, is still the impractical side split bun when something clearly superior has been around for ages.

When I lived in Rhode Island, all the hot dog buns opened at the top (I think they called them hot dog rolls). I believe it is common all around New England, or at least in Rhode Island and anywhere in Massachusetts that someone in Rhode Island would shop at.

 

[viranimus]

This is NOT a new thing, they have been around for years. So it makes me wonder why is it that the standard hotdog bun, is still the impractical side split bun when something clearly superior has been around for ages.

When I lived in Rhode Island, all the hot dog buns opened at the top (I think they called them hot dog rolls). I believe it is common all around New England, or at least in Rhode Island and anywhere in Massachusetts that someone in Rhode Island would shop at.

Yeah I am a tad closer to the Mason Dixon line and here they are always labeled New England split top buns here. They have been around for ages and are by far and away superior (hell they are even easy to butter fry like you would a grilled cheese sandwich), so it makes no sense why they havent over taken the side split type. I have seen em as far back as I can remember but its always been a much less common style.

 

[lechat]

Lets discuss bad ideas, that despite being bad and even better alternatives being available, still commonly appear.

While this can apply to video games as well, this is something that applies to all products

Spoiler: Hot dog Hell

So on the menu this evening is Hotdogs.

Which invariably common hotdog buns have this bad habit that you can barely open them, and even if you are as careful as possible they often will end up opening up all the way through until its not so much a bun as it is two pieces of bread trying to hold a round piece of food and end up with a handful of condiments/toppings. This is common regardless of brand or ingredients, that there IS an alternative. Instead of the traditional Side cut buns, there have long been Split top buns that protect against this breakage by having a thick bulk of bread for the hotdog to rest.

This is NOT a new thing, they have been around for years. So it makes me wonder why is it that the standard hotdog bun, is still the impractical side split bun when something clearly superior has been around for ages.

Spoiler: Flip top lids

Another example is back in the 1980s there was an advent of the "flip top" for tubes of tooth paste. The "idea" was it would be more efficient because instead of having to twist a lid 3 or 4 times you just flip the lid and dispense tooth paste. Only problem is that you would not get 1/10th of the way through a tube before the flip top becomes gummed up with toothpaste and eventually gets to the point where you can no longer shut the cap and each time you brush your teeth you are brushing with what ever the half opened lid was exposed to. Yet even today most toothpaste comes with the stupid flip top lids.

Example: the one on the right was notoriously horrible about being gummed up.

Certainly an idea that should not have lingered around for a quarter century.

It solved a problem no one ever asked to be solved and in the process caused its own unsanitary problem.

So what things are still commonly seen that should have died out ages ago?

the solution to all your hotdog woes is to stab a hole through the length of an uncut roll and insert your wiener inside (that's what she said!). some professional hot dog vendors already do this and if you get hot dog maker machines some come with a stabby ,metal hot dog shaped device specifically for this. the only downside to this method is you can no longer overload the top of the dog with toppings and instead have to throw them on top or jam them in before the dog.

the solution to your toothpaste problem is to ensure the cap is fully closed after use which stops it gumming up or failing that clean it every once in a while.


on topic: QTE - i just don't see how this is still a thing when essentially the whole game mechanic comes down to "press X not to watch loading screen" want a bath room break during this cutscene? FUCK you PRESS X NOW!

 

[FalloutJack]

Well...Bob Dylan, of course. He can ACTUALLY die...but he won't!

 

[Zontar]

Motion/Voice Controls

Yes, it looked awesome in Minority Report. It's not awesome in real life.

I'll add desktop/laptop touch screen. Yes, tablets and smartphones use touchscreens, but it's because they need to, not because it's the best choice.

A Desktop/Laptop has a keyboard and mouse interface, maybe a small touchpad (almost always for laptops), but we don't want and really don't need out nice clean screens to need us to touch them with out fingers to use them. I looks cool, it doesn't feel cool.

Also, everything having that futuristic white and everything being touch interface. No one wants that, and it's impossible to keep clean.

 

[faefrost]

Motion/Voice Controls

Yes, it looked awesome in Minority Report. It's not awesome in real life.

There are very very very very very very few games that it works for and even the games it does work for, it doesn't work very well. It doesn't have any tactile feedback, making it unwieldy and useless. It has trouble recognizing the difference between...well....anything really; I can stand there and the Kinect will detect the dog in the background, screwing up everything because it can't tell the difference between me and my four legged friend. With that, my UFC Trainer (workout game for the 360) would constantly pause itself because it would hear noises (the game's volume on the TV) and pause. Lastly, just about everything motion/voice controls control can be done just as well or better using this new fangled "controller" technology.

Can we please add Virtual Reality, 3d simulation mechanisms and similar bits of some ill thought out consumer holy grail to that? No matter how cool the tech demo, people just do not want to strap on an annoying migraine simulator.

 

[Neverhoodian]

The rap/hip hop craze and how it glorifies the "gangsta" lifestyle. Despite my hopes to the contrary, it's been going strong for over two decades now. Call me crazy, but I don't find urban violence, narcotics and objectifying women to be glamorous. At all.

Meanwhile, disco was dead and buried long before I was even born. There's no justice.

 

[Godhead]

The rap/hip hop craze and how it glorifies the "gangsta" lifestyle. Despite my hopes to the contrary, it's been going strong for over two decades now. Call me crazy, but I don't find urban violence, narcotics and objectifying women to be glamorous. At all.

Meanwhile, disco was dead and buried long before I was even born. There's no justice.

It's ok, you can still listen to Polka!

 

[Signa]

I think Sonic games are a relevant point to this thread. I was just talking about them to some friends, and we can't fathom how they are still being made. We all enjoyed Sonic in the 90's, but we're not nostalgic enough to think that they are still great games. I mean, if they were that good back then, it could justify why we keep seeing sequels, but no-save game over games were on their way out when Sonic was popular, because everyone was starting to realize that home consoles weren't coin-op machines.

 

[Reaper195]

the flip top lids are a wonderful invention. so much easier for me with arthiris to open a flip top than attempt to open a screw top

Right? Not to mention you must be pretty fucking bad at toothpasting to have the top filled with so much you can't close it.

 

[shadowsandwich]

Any online shop that doesn't have paypal support and/or requires you to make an account on there.
My problem with accounts is that they take way to long to make and are usually just so the owners of the shop can spam your inbox with deals for the thing you've already bought. If they wanted to give you reward points, they would just store it in an index sequential file, indexed using the users IP address, and if they wanted to save your payment information, they should have just used paypal.
Also, if i HAVE to make an account for some reason, let me use my facebook account, because you can totally do that and it is totally worth it making the lives of over 1.2 billion people easier.

And shops without paypal support, filling in payment information is long and boring and can often lead to users having to do it again if their transaction times out. Meanwhile any online store worth its salt has direct connect to paypal so all you need to do is type in a password and you're done.

It's 2014 people, time to learn how to do these things decently if you want to get anywhere.

 

[Texas Joker 52]

The rap/hip hop craze and how it glorifies the "gangsta" lifestyle. Despite my hopes to the contrary, it's been going strong for over two decades now. Call me crazy, but I don't find urban violence, narcotics and objectifying women to be glamorous. At all.

Absolutely this.

I'm kind of hoping that the new trend of media glorifying drug abuse, even just smoking weed, dies soon, but that's unlikely, particularly the recent legalization of marijuana in Washington and Colorado. But, thankfully, for the most part, those kinds of movies/shows are easy enough for me to avoid. I probably wouldn't watch them even if they didn't glorify that shit.

Not to mention, the attitude that "All games must have multi-player to be relevant!" and that "Single-player is dead!". Well-made, lengthy single-player can stand on its own, while shoe-horned multi-player usually just harms it. If the multi-player is done well, and can be justified as more than just an add-on to be 'relevant', then it belongs. Same goes for shoe-horned single-player: Do it right, or don't do it at all. If you half-ass it, it only harms the game as a whole.

 

[Someone Depressing]

Sonic.

When was the last good game? What, the second? One of the RPGs? It hasn't been good for a long time.

I also despise moe. Moe characters aren't cute. Just because they have wide heads, eyes you could balance a playstation 2 on, an annoying catchphrase, and a tendency to brek things, doesn't make them cute. It makes them irritating. I also hate moe-art styles, mostly due to their tendency to make men macho freaks and give all of the girls just one kind of face. And hair. And voice.

uguu~

 

[weirdsoup]

I have an issue with Tetra-Pak cartons. Maybe it's just me who's completely fucking useless, but I've never been able to properly open one of these push back the flaps then pull it forward style cartons without either the aid of scissors or getting the contents all over me as I tear open the top in frustration.

 

[Broderick]

Sonic.

When was the last good game? What, the second? One of the RPGs? It hasn't been good for a long time.

I also despise moe. Moe characters aren't cute. Just because they have wide heads, eyes you could balance a playstation 2 on, an annoying catchphrase, and a tendency to brek things, doesn't make them cute. It makes them irritating. I also hate moe-art styles, mostly due to their tendency to make men macho freaks and give all of the girls just one kind of face. And hair. And voice.

uguu~

It is mixed, but I know of a lot of people that liked Sonic Generations. Granted it wasnt the best thing ever, but it certainly was not a terrible experience(for me at least). I hear a lot of people liked Sonic Colors, but I have not played that one.

I dont despise moe, but I do not really understand it. I mean I loved Clannad and Kanon, but most "moe" characters tend to either be annoying or forgettable. Interestingly enough, Kanon either created or popularized the "uguu" catchphrase; I find it rather funny, the protagonist actively makes fun of the character that says it, because of her tendency to say said catchphrase when stressed.

As for my contribution to the thread, I will say that "Radical" everything needs to die. Unless it is dance moves, then go right ahead and keep dancing you majestic stallion you.