Why would someone do this? (girl troubles)

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M4yce

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Hi all not really new here but it's been a bit and I really could use some help understanding something. My girlfriend and I had been on the outs for about a year of a 5 year relationship, last Christmas rolled around and we ended up breaking up badly. We still lived together though so it was really weird, then she had to go to Germany for two weeks and she ends up hooking up with someone while she's there (we're military if you're wondering, so was he).
I didn't take it well, I tried to I really did, I tried to be a friend about it and tell her that getting with someone engaged was a bad idea. It got worse and worse for me though as every time she smiled or talked about him it just broke me over and over again, cause she still wanted to do things like sleep together or go places and worst of all talk about him. She says she never saw that it hurt me, that I hid it really well, but I don't know It hurt so much I don't know how I could. She got upset about him one day, I don't know I think it was he hadn't called when he said he would, and she asked me to sleep in the bed with her no sex just comfort I guess. I tried but I couldn't do it and I ended up getting up halfway through the night. She got really upset in the morning crying that I was being like every other man and breaking promises, I really wasn't it just hurt to be that close but so far away from her. So I told her that I'd try again and I did for a couple of days, I dunno I guess I was reaching for anything that made me feel like she cared about me.
Then we got into a fight because I told her this was killing me that it hurt to want to be with her but she was with him, and I told her I couldn't lay in the bed with her anymore. I told her I understand that she needs someone and that she just not let them in my room if she let them in. I guess she took that to heart because I got a call on my way home from work that day telling me that she had company over. I get off of work at 11:00 at night so I knew this wasn't good. I get home and the house is all dark, there's a car in our extra parking spot, and I come to find them locked in her room.
I think I really felt something break in my chest, I still do I just about broke into tears right then.
So I pound on her door and I ask to talk to her, she asks me through the door what I want, she wouldn't even come out to talk to me. I tell her that what she's doing to me is hurting me emotionally, I ask her to make him please leave, and she tells me no she wants him here. I beg with her for what seemed like half an hour, and I get desperate and call the cops and ask them to remove this man I don't know from my home. They refuse telling me she's on the lease and she can have guests and they leave me. I ended up kicking the door to her room at that point and immediately stop, knowing I had just screwed myself. I try talking to her again and ask to talk to the guy, I ask him to leave, I ask him as one man to another to please leave that this isn't a good night for anyone. He tells me, "sorry man this happened to me, it's going to happen to you, you'll just have to get over it."
...I don't remember if I kicked to door again then or not...
I end up getting arrested and kicked out of my home, I'm still homeless but I'm working on it but I just can't let go of this.
Why would someone do this to someone they spent a five year relationship with? Why would someone want to hurt me so much, and why was it more important that I go to jail and he stay there? Am I just not good enough, am I just something so easy to cast aside? Why would anyone do this? Please someone tell me. Please.
 

Valknott

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It wasn't that she was trying to hurt you, man. She was just hurt crazy bad too, but she felt like you guys were friends. But you don't instantly make the transition from lover to friend, and definitely not easily.

She definitely didn't consider your feelings enough, and thats not cool. On the other hand you should have quit sleeping next to her. If she wants your comfort, she should have been more willing to comfort you.

The nasty truth is people don't really mature very quickly, especially when it comes to relationships. She wanted you to be there for her, and since I assume you still loved her you wanted to be there for her.
 

M4yce

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Yeah...I just got off the phone with her, and you're right I did love her and I still do. I still want to be there for her and whether she means to or not she's still hurting me. She makes me feel like we're in a relationship but she won't tell me she won't go be with some other guy when I'm not around.
She tells me that's just how people are nowadays, that it's what all her friends do, that it's what mainstream culture does, and I just can't accept that. She tells me I'm immature for feeling the way I do, but I can't change that and I don't want to. Please tell me that's not the case though, please tell me there are others who feel that way. That if you're intimate with someone to at least the point of sleeping in the same bed together that you only have them on your mind. I can only be with one person at a time is that wrong? Is that so different now?
It can't be I don't think I can handle that.
 

stl520nlv

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M4yce said:
Yeah...I just got off the phone with her, and you're right I did love her and I still do. I still want to be there for her and whether she means to or not she's still hurting me. She makes me feel like we're in a relationship but she won't tell me she won't go be with some other guy when I'm not around.
She tells me that's just how people are nowadays, that it's what all her friends do, that it's what mainstream culture does, and I just can't accept that. She tells me I'm immature for feeling the way I do, but I can't change that and I don't want to. Please tell me that's not the case though, please tell me there are others who feel that way. That if you're intimate with someone to at least the point of sleeping in the same bed together that you only have them on your mind. I can only be with one person at a time is that wrong? Is that so different now?
It can't be I don't think I can handle that.
I feel for you, man. In my opinion none of what she said is right, and she's the immature one. You should feel a strong commitment to each other, and if she doesn't, then something is wrong with her. That's all I really have to help. I think if you take your questions and turn them directly into statements and you will have your answers. Just cause "everyone else" does it doesn't make it right. If she can't go against the not-actually-so-"main"stream, then she's missing out. Not everyone is like that. Loving one person is how it is meant to be. Look at the Bible (excuse me if you're not religious). In the very beginning God made one woman for Adam. That's just simply how it's meant to be. Also look at nature. Most mammals stay with one mate their entire life. Quite frankly mankind is screwed up if you didn't notice.
Besides, we're Soldiers(or Airmen or Sailors or Marines, not really sure what you technically are). But my point is if you want to love, from what i can tell from my experiences, this is the wrong profession to be in. Civilians have it way easier, but if you can find someone who will be with you through all the bull we go through then you've got someone special and you have to know they really love you
 

LetalisK

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What. The. Fuck. The OP just blew my mind. If you two break up, one of you needs to move the hell out. What were you two thinking still staying in the same house? You had been together forever, it wasn't like you could just got back to being friends. Of course shit was going to hit the fan! Alas, love does blind us to the obvious. Also, I know you're going to hate me for saying this, but it needs to be said. She's a bad person(I had another word I would put here, but I'm trying to be nice). Maybe not intentionally, but she was using you, completely and selfishly disregarded your pain, and then twisted it back on you to make you seem like the bad person when you reacted like a normal human being. She is a bad person, run as far away from her as quickly as possible and find a better girl. I know it's easier said than done, but it needs to be done.
 

M4yce

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Thank you guys, it means a lot to me that I know others feel this way.

@stl520nlv

While I'm really not religious no I really like what you're saying, I'd like to find someone who wants to fuck like a duck...'cause they're monogamous, not cause I wanna fuck a duck. Sorry bad joke.

She wasn't always a soldier and honestly we're just reservists, no offense to anyone else in the reserve but I want to be doing something more. She actually joined after me, which really worried me because like you said trying to love someone in the military is hard. I don't know why. I remember now that she wanted to see other people back in basic too, I just thought she was getting too much attention as women usually get in the army, and I fought hard to get through that. I guess I know now that's what she really wants and she just kind of wants to keep me in reserve, 'cause she tells me in two years if I want her to consider me then I have to be there for her now. I can't do it though, I can't sit by and watch and think and hear about her being with other guys. I'm just not that good of a friend, and that's what she wants is a friend. I know you guys are saying just leave her, but if I leave her and all she's left with is other people who think the same way she does doesn't that condemn her living the same way? Isn't that me just giving up?

@LetalisK

Yeah we should have moved out and it sounds like a crappy excuse but we had just signed the lease together and neither of us had the money to move out. Thanks for being nice, at surface it really seems like she is a bad person but I really think she's just really unable to think of others. I told her in anger and depression fine bring someone else into your bed and she took that and ran. I don't think she's a bad person just making bad choices, and again if I leave her all she'll have left is her shitty peers to listen to. So I don't want to leave her because I don't want her to become that kind of person but I don't think she wants to be anything else.

I think that's my fault though, I was a really shitty boyfriend towards the end and I told her I never wanted to marry her. I made her feel insignificant and worthless and now I think I pushed her to this edge. Maybe it's just guilt but it's a big reason that I feel I can't let her go.
 

LetalisK

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M4yce said:
So I don't want to leave her because I don't want her to become that kind of person but I don't think she wants to be anything else.
You can't save her from herself. Trust me, I know from experience and it is heart breaking. But even if you are 100% to blame for everything bad that had ever happened, it would just makes things worse by sticking around. If you're not going to move on for you, then move on for her.

Edit: Ultimately, you are not responsible for her happiness. She is. What she decides to do now is completely on her.
 

M4yce

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I understand, and thank you all, it's good to hear from compassionate good people when all I see are people doing what I consider to be bad things.

Aylaine

Yeah I'm going to try talking to her for a bit, just if anything to find out why she did what she did. I'm not over her at all, but if I do find out from this that there's nothing there or not what I need then yeah I'll be taking that extreme break for sure...overseas if possible. I doubt she'll be anywhere near as understanding as you are but I'll just have to get over the guilt of feeling like I did something wrong. Thank you.

LetalisK

...you might be right, but I hope I'm not that bad of a guy for her. I think personally she's all about herself right now, but I know that's not who she is inside. I just want her to remember that before I have to leave her. Thanks.

I don't think I'm ready to quit on her, and I don't think she wants to lose me. I know it's stupid but I just want to give her one more chance, I almost wish I didn't love her as much as I do but I do. I know she cares about me and I know she wants to be with me, I dunno I think I hurt her too much to try now. But I'm going to try and show her that I've learned from this and I want to grow from it, and if she wants to grow with me I'm more than willing to do that.

Hopefully she'll do that, and I'm hoping that I won't be back here with my heart broken again. But I will write back and let everyone know what happened, I'll probably...definitely need advice I'm sure.

Thanks again everyone.
 

rutger5000

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You're too close to this to get a good view on the situation. Which is extremely understandable.
Why would someone do this to someone that close? Because she is hurting to, she needed comfort and the guy she considered as friend (that's you) couldn't give it to her. Now I think you did the right thing when you walked out of the bed. But that didn't leave her any less hurt and alone, she went looking for comfort somewhere else. Which might have been the best thing to do too.
All in all I think it's a good thing that you don't live together anymore. Pain is too fresh.
I usually don't disagree with Alayne, but this time I do. I think it's best for the both of you to deal with all of this separably and after that maybe start talking again, she if you can be friends.
As for you dealing with this, I would recommend close family. That is if you're on good terms with them.