Why you should vote for Relic this March Mayhem round!

[Neverhoodian]

Don't forget they're also working on Space Marine:
It's one of the few games this year I'm looking forward to.

It was Dawn of War that introduced me to the sheer awesomeness that is Warhammer 40,000. I've been an avid fan of the universe ever since. For this, I'll always be thankful.

 

[XzarTheMad]

Relic make good games - Personally I prefer DoW 2 to DoW 1, and Company of Heroes above them both. I've voted for them so far, but I will be voting VALVe, simply because their quality is constant. I felt that DoW 1 was a bit dull as far as RTS's go. A pity Relic had to go against such a giant, but in the end they did make it to round three.. right?

 

[Scorched_Cascade]

Relic make good games - Personally I prefer DoW 2 to DoW 1, and Company of Heroes above them both. I've voted for them so far, but I will be voting VALVe, simply because their quality is constant. I felt that DoW 1 was a bit dull as far as RTS's go. A pity Relic had to go against such a giant, but in the end they did make it to round three.. right?

Bearing in mind we are judging them on their games (so Steam doesn't count) What have valve made recently that you have played? Wikipedia says their last big game was 2009 (Left4dead2) left4dead1 was 2008 and team fortress 2 was 2007. Their upcoming list is portal 2 (fun I agree 2011) and Episode 3 (yeah..thats kind of a running joke by now).

Relic meanwhile have dawn of war 2 (2009), company of heroes expansion (2009), company of heroes online (2010), Dawn of war 2: Chaos Rising (2010), Dawn of war 2: retribution (2011) and on the upcoming list have Space Marine (Q3 2011) and Company of Heroes 2 (TBA August 2011).

As innovative as portal was and as fun as I'm sure portal 2 is they have no replayability once you have figured out the puzzles. Once you know the solutions they don't change.

If this seems biased at all it's because I'm hoping for a rebuttal supporting valve. [sub](apologies for picking your post to quote but you said you were voting valve so I have to at least attempt a conversion).[/sub]

 

[Batfred]

Until they come up against Naughty Dog, they will always have my vote (especially now that Firaxis and Creative Assembly are already out).

 

[Frankster]

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Another thing that bothers me, are the expansions for Dawn Of War(s). Some bullshit in a way, but it's a larger problem with modern gaming, so Relic is definitely not solely the culprit there.

Relic's expansions are always worth their price: new races+new campaign+new units for existing races.

 

[repeating integers]

Gooooooooooooo RELIC!

Valve has absolutely nothing on you, by any stretch of the imagination. Let us put to bed the creators of Half-Life 2, which may have been enjoyable but is still the most overhyped game ever made.

 

[Frankster]

If relic beat Blizzard two (Or was it three?) years ago, WE CAN DO IT NOW!

GATHER DA BOYZ! GET YA GITZ 'EADY! DA BOYZ R ON DA WAY FOR A WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

Twas last year and relic's biggest scalp to date ^^

Alas, circumstances were different as blizzard vs relic involved 2 rts devs with different visions and a lot felt inspired to vote to send a signal that blizzard's vision of rts isn't the only one nor neccesarily the best.
Relic's win over blizzard practically justified their way of doing things, that although their games don't have the same mass appeal that wow or sc has, relic can stand tall and proud when it comes to sheer quality and innovation.

Valve and relic however specialize in different genres and valve has major advantages such as steam (normally this shouldn't be a factor but look how many people say they vote for valve just cos of steam xD)and the massive popularity they have on this site, escapist is practically valve's most fortified bastion outside of steam itself.

Still would be delicious if we caused an upset like last year

 

[Cabamacadaf]

I won't vote for Relic until they make Impossible Creatures 2.

 

[Patriotics]

Perhaps the best video that showcases the voice acting they use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gGG4fpGB_w

 

[XzarTheMad]

Bearing in mind we are judging them on their games (so Steam doesn't count) What have valve made recently that you have played? Wikipedia says their last big game was 2009 (Left4dead2) left4dead1 was 2008 and team fortress 2 was 2007. Their upcoming list is portal 2 (fun I agree 2011) and Episode 3 (yeah..thats kind of a running joke by now).

Relic meanwhile have dawn of war 2 (2009), company of heroes expansion (2009), company of heroes online (2010), Dawn of war 2: Chaos Rising (2010), Dawn of war 2: retribution (2011) and on the upcoming list have Space Marine (Q3 2011) and Company of Heroes 2 (TBA August 2011).

As innovative as portal was and as fun as I'm sure portal 2 is they have no replayability once you have figured out the puzzles. Once you know the solutions they don't change.

If this seems biased at all it's because I'm hoping for a rebuttal supporting valve. [sub](apologies for picking your post to quote but you said you were voting valve so I have to at least attempt a conversion).[/sub]

That a company is more productive doesn't mean they are superior.

I'm not sure what you want me to say. I play Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead /2, Alien Swarm, Day of Defeat and Gmod on a regular basis (800hrs TF2 and 300hrs L4D2 clocked). I love Half Life 2 and the episodes, and I've gone through both those and Portal about 3-4 times. I like VALVe's games. That they made steam is just a bonus.

I disagree about replayability. Portal has a challenge mode which makes each puzzle harder. You can practice speedrunning the puzzles, or you can, like I have, go through it again because of the feel and the story of the game. As for Portal 2, the addition of multiplayer will add a lot of replayability. I understand if someone doesn't want to play through Portal after beating it, but I do. I like beating the challenges, I like getting the difficult achievements, and I like playing games I already know, because I can get a deeper experience the second time around. Diff'rent strokes and all that.

As I already mentioned, I'm also a fan of Relic. Having bought Both DoW games, all their expansions (except Retribution) as well as Company of heroes and both expansions, I am not going to badmouth them. I feel their games are very good, and they are among the best game makers in my opinion. But VALVe has more games that I've played for a longer time (all the way back to the first Half Life, Opposing Force and Blue Shift and deathmatches on LAN), and even if they are slower to make games, it's only because they ensure quality in all aspects. That is at least how I see them. People may complain about TF2's new updates, but that's a different discussion that I'm not getting into.

In March Mayhem, I have voted Relic so far. But I don't think they're superior to VALVe. Simple.

 

[Knusper]

I'm sorry Relic, it was a hard decision, but I had to go for Valve. I can't ignore all those hours I have spent playing L4D2.

 

[zehydra]

OP, Why didn't you include homeworld?

 

[Hader]

I love DoW, and I love Relic for them.

But they aren't beating Valve. Sad but true.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

You know, I've never played a Relic game.

But the reason I won't be voting for them is because I don't participate in March Mayhem. For all the glitz they try to gussy it up with, I really don't care for the Escapist's popularity contest.

 

[Nouw]

OP, Why didn't you include homeworld?

Because I don't know much about that game, I hear it's brilliant but those 2 games are the only ones I'm adamant about posting. However I do regret not putting in Company of Heroes >.>

 

[Xan Krieger]

Voted for Relic, they've got the Homeworld series, Company of Heros series and Dawn of War Series against Portal which I consider Valve's only good game.

 

[Nouw]

Thanks to everyone who voted for Relic, it's really nice to see that some people[sub]aren't heretics, xenos or mutants[/sub] still love Relic.

Loss or not, we can still go out with a bang! *Pushes button for Exterminatus. Keep posting anything Relic related !

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I did. Company of Heroes and all.

But I now am incredibly dissapointed in MM due to the frankly cheap move of not putting Vice City or San Andreas under the "games developed by Rockstar North".

 

[Twilight_guy]

Not to be off topic, but I think the Escapist should probably make a forum for March Mayhem discussion during March Mayhem. I think they tried before and it fell into a hellish flaming cess pool that whipped itself off the Earth but I'm sure there are plenty of people who want to discussion things like this and usually the poll topics are chocked with other voices so real discussion can go on.

The only probably I have with Relic is that they somehow always seem to go up against other developers I like more. I kinda feel bad for them, but I've liked the other guy more on more then a few occasions.