Wii U to be quickly outdated?

[Lunar Templar]

Soooooo.... You all really care that much about graphics? Haha don't play Xenoblade then.

Wii had some of the best games this gen. Wii-U will follow the same path of innovative ideas and using the tech well to make good games. But, you hate on it.

FYI, I work in a RadioShack and you guys really have NOOOOO IDEA how fast tablets sell. This is going to make BIG MONEY.

I'm gonna go ahead and say, this.

since nether sony or microsoft won't do anything but make the same boring crap we have now, prettier, so yeah, i'm kinda seeing the Wii all over again

(it'll be nice when people get it through there think skulls high spec hard ware =/= good games)

 

[Twilight_guy]

I don't think the hardware specs matter much to Nintendo. The Wii wasn't a powerhouse but it did well. I personally think gamers put to much focus on hardware. Hardware is nice but we play and use software and without that your fancy vector math machine is pretty useless.

 

[Phlakes]

The hardware will be. But the Wii's been "outdated" pretty much since it launched, and it's still massively successful.

 

[tthor]

Soooooo.... You all really care that much about graphics? Haha don't play Xenoblade then.

Wii had some of the best games this gen. Wii-U will follow the same path of innovative ideas and using the tech well to make good games. But, you hate on it.

FYI, I work in a RadioShack and you guys really have NOOOOO IDEA how fast tablets sell. This is going to make BIG MONEY.

I don't mean this jokingly or rudely, i honestly do not understand what you are talking about, and had to take a moment to figure out if you were being satirical or not.. I am still confused by it

first, what great games; I ask this because I have honestly searched through wii games trying to find SOMETHING worth using my Wii on, but finding mostly garbage. It was a little innovative with the motion controls, but the novelty wore off for most people very quickly. And even if tablets are selling really well, the thing is, the WiiU is not a tablet; its a game console that just happens to have a tablet-like controller, which is like comparing apples to potatoes..

 

[Lugbzurg]

I want the Wii-U to fail so hard it makes Nintendo pull their finger out, or at least fail so hard that Microsoft and Sony stop copying their stupid business practice.

The success of the Wii was a fad, an accident. Right place, right time. As someone has already said the casual Marketa now has plenty of other venues to meet their tastes. Playing tennis in front of your telly is going to enthrall the casual demographic, but god knows they've already got tablets galore. Made by companies who have much more successful markets.

If their business practices are so terrible, why do so many countless hordes of people love them to death?

To me it just seems like a bigger, more powerful Nintendo DS, so the idea of it is definitely outdated...

Words can not describe how foolish that statement just was.

 

[Altorin]

considering Microsoft's big showing this year is "use your tablet on your 360", they intend to keep the 360 going at least another year. I'm not worried about the Wii U. It will be competing against the PS3 and 360 for a while yet.

 

[him over there]

At the least, it going to get at least 1 year of being the rich kid on the block. We don't know any of the price structures yet. New Xbox and PS could be $600 which is killer in a bad economy, which means only new games will come out on the affordable WiiU(Assuming the low specs makes it affordable.) verses them not coming out on the Xbox360 and PS3.

Don't forget that specs isn't the only thing that can make or break a console, and I'm not just talking about games here. The rumours about the new xbox having no used games is still floating around, Sony recently acquired a patent for ads in the middle of your games, I know these are just rumours and speculation but the thing will probably get some good mileage simply because it is Nintendo.

 

[tthor]

Soooooo.... You all really care that much about graphics? Haha don't play Xenoblade then.

Wii had some of the best games this gen. Wii-U will follow the same path of innovative ideas and using the tech well to make good games. But, you hate on it.

FYI, I work in a RadioShack and you guys really have NOOOOO IDEA how fast tablets sell. This is going to make BIG MONEY.

pffffft

ok, the Wii had its good points and all...but don't act like our questioning the Wii U is unreasonable or due to "duurr hurrr bad graphics"

going by how things went even though the Wii sold well ,when compared to the offerings of the other platforms....for must of us here its pathetic

sure the Nintendo games are solid (well if your not gonna touch the "dead hoarse" argument) but you give me a list of good things on the Wii and I'll double it with all the other platforms,

The thing for me is that if you take that console list, I could double it with games from the PC. Apart from a small group of games, the xbox and PS3 are just shitty PCs while Nintendo consoles at least try to be different.

this is kinda true, but I'd argue that Nintendo has long since stopped trying, and have largely stagnated. what was the last major new IP nintendo came out with? hate to bring up the 'dead horse' thing, but ya, they keep just remaking the same games over and over, and that can only go so far; I might appreciate nintendo a bit more if they would atleast try to put some effort into new original IPs, rather than just rehashing the same old ones

 

[Treblaine]

It's an Xbox 360... 7 years too late.

It will struggle and IF, just IF there is a next generation of consoles any time soon then WiiU doesn't stand a single god damn hope AT ALL!

But it won't even take that much, it'll only need PS3 and Xbox 360 to have some competitive price cuts and the WiiU will be dangerously non-viable, and this could have SERIOUS repercussions for the entire industry if such a major player as Nintendo has a console utterly flop.

Their special controller doesn't have any special appeal. It's clear they are trying to riff on tablets but that is only going to make the system much more expensive while dividing focus between the HDTV screen and some tablet monitor.

 

[Treblaine]

Secondly, totally alienating your fanbase with shovelware, then begging them to come back with a system that barely has better specs then a Xbox 360 is shameful.

The WiiU is way better specced than 360 and PS3. Inform yourself, dude.

It's a 3-core Power-PC architecture CPU around 3.2GHz. That describes both the WiiU and the Xbox 360. Graphics of both are MAXED at 1080p and typically 720p for high graphical detail. They are virtually identical.

But importantly EVERY multi-platform developer knows how to eek out the very best performance out of the Xbox 360, but that won't be the case with the WiiU.

WiiU is DEFINITELY much lower spec than typical gaming PC you can buy these days.

You know the hardware is much better than current generation tech?

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1415921/nintendo_wii_u_hardware_tech_specs_revealed.html

Nope.avi

WiiU has curiously similar specs to Xbox 360. Right down to a triple-core Power-PC central-processor.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

Soooooo.... You all really care that much about graphics? Haha don't play Xenoblade then.

Wii had some of the best games this gen. Wii-U will follow the same path of innovative ideas and using the tech well to make good games. But, you hate on it.

FYI, I work in a RadioShack and you guys really have NOOOOO IDEA how fast tablets sell. This is going to make BIG MONEY.

pffffft

ok, the Wii had its good points and all...but don't act like our questioning the Wii U is unreasonable or due to "duurr hurrr bad graphics"

going by how things went even though the Wii sold well ,when compared to the offerings of the other platforms....for must of us here its pathetic

sure the Nintendo games are solid (well if your not gonna touch the "dead hoarse" argument) but you give me a list of good things on the Wii and I'll double it with all the other platforms,

The thing for me is that if you take that console list, I could double it with games from the PC. Apart from a small group of games, the xbox and PS3 are just shitty PCs while Nintendo consoles at least try to be different.

this is kinda true, but I'd argue that Nintendo has long since stopped trying, and have largely stagnated. what was the last new IP nintendo came out with? hate to bring up the 'dead horse' thing, but ya, they keep just remaking the same games over and over, and that can only go so far; I might appreciate nintendo a bit more if they would atleast try to put some effort into new original IPs, rather than just rehashing the same old ones

Uggh, I hate this argument. With every single 3D Mario game they introduce a new concept that's never been done before, but because it's in the same universe and it's still a platformer at heart it's "Remaking" the same game. Look at Super Mario Sunshine, then go look at Super Mario Galaxy. One's based around cleaning stuff up with a water gun, the other's about INCREDIBLY creative and different planets. Nintendo doesn't really innovate sure, but they are creative. Now look at Twilight Princess compared to Skyward Sword, different art style and different controls and even a different level structure. Then go look at "The Last of Us" compared to "Uncharted", they're both third person shooters with the same stealth elements and the same climbing elements. What was the last new IP Microsoft, or Sony put out? A FIRST party game, don't want to be unfair.

 

[ChildishLegacy]

The gap between the Wii U's power and the new Xbox/PS won't be near as big as the gap between all of those and the PC, yet people still buy consoles... I don't buy consoles for the technical power, I have a PC for that. I buy consoles for things like platform only games (which nintendo tends to have the best of, zelda, paper mario, metroid, starfox etc.).

 

[wintercoat]

Secondly, totally alienating your fanbase with shovelware, then begging them to come back with a system that barely has better specs then a Xbox 360 is shameful.

The WiiU is way better specced than 360 and PS3. Inform yourself, dude.

It's a 3-core Power-PC architecture CPU around 3.2GHz. That describes both the WiiU and the Xbox 360. Graphics of both are MAXED at 1080p and typically 720p for high graphical detail. They are virtually identical.

But importantly EVERY multi-platform developer knows how to eek out the very best performance out of the Xbox 360, but that won't be the case with the WiiU.

WiiU is DEFINITELY much lower spec than typical gaming PC you can buy these days.

You know the hardware is much better than current generation tech?

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1415921/nintendo_wii_u_hardware_tech_specs_revealed.html

Nope.avi

WiiU has curiously similar specs to Xbox 360. Right down to a triple-core Power-PC central-processor.

Tech specs coming from an anonymous source are about as useful in an argument as my left foot.

Nintendo has yet to release the specs for the Wii-U. How about waiting for them to do so officially instead of believing every anonymous source and claiming Nintendo's downfall?

 

[MiriaJiyuu]

Wii had some of the best games this gen.

Ha!

It actually did have some pretty good titles, but like someone else pointed out, they were few and far in-between and ultimately lost in all the crap that came out alongside them.

Wii-U will follow the same path of innovative ideas and using the tech well to make good games.

This isn't 2002 and a touch screen by itself isn't innovative anymore. Nintendo have yet to show me any reason that someone should be excited about this console.

I'll agree there, while the hardware is actually better than anything this gen, except maybe the cell-processor of a PS3, not sure on CPU-performance between the WiiU and PS3, there isn't anything particularly exciting about it, to me it comes off as an extra PC with a tablet screen. I may buy it I may not, it's usually games that sell a console to me, not it's hardware.

Also by innovative ideas I'm pretty sure they meant HOW they use the touchscreen, not that they have it. Game Devs tend to be creative people and come up with the strangest ways to use a piece of technology, whether or not an idea is a success is another story.

FYI, I work in a RadioShack and you guys really have NOOOOO IDEA how fast tablets sell. This is going to make BIG MONEY.

I think most people do have an idea of how popular tablets are. And that's Nintendo's problem. Core gamers don't care about them and casual gamers are already buying them because they serve that market better than the Wii U could ever hope to since they aren't tied to a TV.

Despite how big a piece of our lives it is a lot of people actually don't know much about the tech industry in general and tend to be genuinely surprised at the statistics. I've met plenty of people who are surprised by something as simple as plugging an XBox or Dualshock controller into a PC and using it to play games, even though it's simple to do. Most people don't even know how much potential their smartphone, if they have one, actually has. The number of things you can actually do on them goes way beyond what the average person will use it for.

Nintendo however probably does, but their tablet also has an analog stick, so we'll see how it goes. Keep in mind it will recognized as a console with a tablet extension, not a tablet.

OT: I won't pass judgement on how well the WiiU will sell. It's a new generation and we have little information on it's competition. I'll remind everyone though that graphics are at their peek for what our screens support, and the WiiU looks like it will render in proper, full 1080p. Hardware at this point lies in the CPU not GPU. AT least until we find a way to cram more pixels on a standard HD TV.

Also, the PS3 and 360's never supported full 1080p, but rather used smoothing to give the illusion of it, keep in mind the PS3 and 360 were released before it existed and therefore does not have hardware that supports it, only software that fakes it. Proper 1080p in gaming, until the WiiU is released, can only be found on the PC.

 

[Treblaine]

The WiiU is way better specced than 360 and PS3. Inform yourself, dude.

It's a 3-core Power-PC architecture CPU around 3.2GHz. That describes both the WiiU and the Xbox 360. Graphics of both are MAXED at 1080p and typically 720p for high graphical detail. They are virtually identical.

But importantly EVERY multi-platform developer knows how to eek out the very best performance out of the Xbox 360, but that won't be the case with the WiiU.

WiiU is DEFINITELY much lower spec than typical gaming PC you can buy these days.

You know the hardware is much better than current generation tech?

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1415921/nintendo_wii_u_hardware_tech_specs_revealed.html

Nope.avi

WiiU has curiously similar specs to Xbox 360. Right down to a triple-core Power-PC central-processor.

Tech specs coming from an anonymous source are about as useful in an argument as my left foot.

Nintendo has yet to release the specs for the Wii-U. How about waiting for them to do so officially instead of believing every anonymous source and claiming Nintendo's downfall?

At least I have a source. Does anyone else have a more reputable and contradictory source?

Why is it less than 5 months before release and Nintendo are still HIDING the specification of their MOST IMPORTANT system? If they were good, they would have announced them by now, just as Sony did 6 months before they released PS3 and as Microsoft did at the E3 before the Xbox 360 was released. It's not for any strategic reason preventing corporate espionage, units have been given to developers and that will leak out but can't publicly state it for fear of being sued.

Nintendo are hiding the WiiU's specifications AND price because they it is low power and expensive. Sony announced the price of PS3 at the E3 before its release... Nintendo hiding this is NOT GOOD!