Wild West MMO?

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BentNeatly

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So ive been sitting on this thought for literally years.

I love the old west, and i love epic games. I figured why not make a crazy Epic wild west game, with great graphics and what not. Allow me to explain my ideas.

Of course a full create-a-gunslinger/indian with a highly stylized, vast network of faces, hair, body type, and clothing. You pick your back ground, like whether your a bitter child whos family was murdered by outlaws, an indian trying to keep the tribal ways alive in a world of growing technological expansion, a rogue cavalry/ militia/ civil war soldier who takes to a life of crime. Maybe it sounds lame, but imagine creating characters straight outta classic westerns like The man with no name series.

Im all about customization. SO of course clothing would have an intricate yet simple mass scope. The skills would be of course western. Like draw time, stamina, duel wield, duel shotguns, speed, all the typical things, only applied to the western atmospher. It would be less armor, and more comfort, impact on others, that decide whats a good piece. And of course straight up badassness. Like what kind of holster you use depending on draw time, whether your vest or trench coat impedes movement, or conceals weapons, how suspicious you look, how harmless you look, all working in ways to get what you want to get out of the game. Example: if you walk into a bank to rob it with a posse of friends, your trench coat may get second glances from the cop posted inside, but it will be better at concealing your customed 4 barrel shotgun that you put marks on for every exploded head.

Weapons. I think this is the coolest concept. A near endless amount of PIECES. complete customization of guns. You have a rifle slot and shotgun slot, pistol slot, maybe you duel wield, or throw knives or use a bow and arrow. There are parts for all of this. Different barrels that get different result, plenty of sights, bullets, revolver pieces galore, so that no two gun is exact from player to player. Maybe you pay the cash for a crazy third barrel on your shot gun. Kill enough people with THAT add on, you gain an outlaw title, or shoot the man who made it up and decide to wait for a better name. or vice versa if your a law man, gain notoriety as an unforgiving sheriff. Limitless customization of your character, like rivaling WoW.

Of course the world itself would hae to be big. Small barren towns, ghost towns for exploration, ranches you could hustle, or own, mines you could search in, perhaps make your money being a prospector. Protect your mine from bandits.

The travel system could be train and stage coach, which are always in danger of being robbed. Some players could be riding the train just headed to another town, and never realize that that train also carries a famous chinese emperor visiting the new american states. And it just so happens that some other bandit players, who have access to this information because of their bandit ways, would attack the train. Then you could choose to join them, run, or protect Emperor Dong. Or maybe you just get your own horse. You could get pets, companions like dogs, or foxes, like if your an indian.

The game itself would be beautiful FPS, but you could go third person if you wanted. like oblivion. really focus's on scenery and your own weapons and clothing.

Quests would be typical and also very different. The west was full of quests, like the obvious WANTED quests, get hired by the army for civil war battles, or get hired to bring a criminal by stage coach to his trial, and defend against bandits. I mean it could be NPCs giving you offers or it could be other payers who have put together a group of guys who are bringing in a criminal, and they are sure they need more men for the journey back when his posse attacks.Players could create factions, and do what they want. A law man circle, army buddies, a tribe, or outlaws.

Im begginging to rant, but you get the idea. The old west is near limitless in its possibilities as an MMO or hell even a non MMO RPG. I think its a genre that has seriously been left untapped, and in this age where everyone is either clad in armor, or posses magic, i think wearing a poncho and a bank tellers hate while you wield your duel shotguns in the faces of scared townies with the rest of your posse is a very exciting prospect.

Could this game be made, should it be made, and if done correctly, could it be awesome?

Add to it if you got it.
 

Slycne

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This is also an idea I have mulled around. I think done well and in an almost spaghetti western fashion would be amazing.

Would Clint Eastwood be an epic 40 man raid boss?

Just to expand on "factions"

- The Army: Depending on the time period both Union and Southern
- The Law: sheriffs, deputies and Texas Rangers
- The Anti-hero faction: retired lawmen, bounty hunter and lawful gunman
- The outlaws
- The towns people: saloon and gambling owners

- The Native Americans could potentially be a hot button issue. For the game to be successful they would either need to do this really well or simply not have them. For instance how some games will remove slave labor and slave traders despite it being a prevalent happening at the time.

Just to name a few.
 

Alone Disciple

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Missions/tasks could include:

-Defending a town/outpost/stage coach. Ride a stage coach for medicine, mail, or bank deliveries or raid them.
-deliver mail ala pony express.
-telepgraph and telegram for communication
-build rail ways (then protect trains or raid them)
-Fend off cattle rustlers and poachers
-skills could include hunting, fishing, mining, medicine, camping, trapping, panning for gold, explosives, banjo playing, harmonica playing, piano playing, fence building.
-PvE against mountain lions, cougars, coyotes, etc.
-Disover/estlabish trading routes between towns, Indians, etc.
-Run a brothel or bar.
-Bank heists.
-Street showdowns.
-Native American factions.

This can go on and on. I like it!!

I'd totally buy this, especially if it had a great spaghetti western soundtrack.
 

ianuam

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I for one, would play this. Hopefully it'll get picked up by some decent developer. However, more likely than not, it would be ruined by poor something or other..
 

Dahemo

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I think this sounds very promising, but a western themed MMO currently exists, it's free to play online, the name escapes me, but I know it hasn't had a huge uptake. Also, this sounds somewhat like "GUN Online" should such a thing ever come to pass, and GUN was a sleeper hit (literally popular to a few but ignored by the vast majority despite critical acclaim) so I don't know how well it would sell.

That said, you never know if a publisher might want to pick it up. I'd pitch it around to some development houses. I wonder if Mythic might be interested...
 

Volucer

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I'd love a Wild West MMO, or a Firefly one, 'caus that's pretty much a western in space. We need some good MMO's and some good western games, maybe they could kill two irds with one stone as it were.
 

Darthracoon

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I would love to see this happen but there would be alot of problems implementing that "Western" feel, I think that everything should be available at the start because i can't see this having grinding in it so it won't have leveling but maybe there could be a money system or respect e.g:get respected by a rancher or gunsmith you get free or discount items.
I also think that in towns there should be a strong sherrif/lawman presence to deter bandits and big shootouts or too many bank robberys(ill get on that later) and there could be a duel system where you can challenge people to duels and the winner can get money(if it's betted) and in bars if you start a fist fight any one can join in npcs and players alike(pick-up-able chairs and bottles which smash is a must)and you get knocked out and regain consuisness(sp) when the fight is over.
Death could be handeld very westerny per say you get shot in the chest you fall on the ground(still alive)and wait/crawl around for a allie to heal you or a enemy to kill you or you can heal yourself(if whisky or bandenges are available) or shoot yourself,if you get shot in the arm or the leg you'll have to limp or said arm won't work if you get shot in the head or die you get transported to the nearest doc' what i would love to see is if you get shot in a specific place you can get out of the docs in a few second and have a scar/eyepatch/wooden leg or you can wait extra time or pay him and be perfectly healed.
With the bank robberies you could wait for a certain time say when the lawmen are asleep(or dead!)and doing crimes would make enemies with that faction(town you did it in) if you get hated enough you get ccast out or hanged i also think gun customization and character customization would be awesome.
 

Thais

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Needless nitpick? Please stop referring to the "Old West" duster as a trench coat? Trench coats didn't exist until the 1900s, and they didn't reach the US until after WWI.
 

The_Prophet

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Alone Disciple post=9.70562.695896 said:
Missions/tasks could include:

-Defending a town/outpost/stage coach. Ride a stage coach for medicine, mail, or bank deliveries or raid them.
-deliver mail ala pony express.
-telepgraph and telegram for communication
-build rail ways (then protect trains or raid them)
-Fend off cattle rustlers and poachers
-skills could include hunting, fishing, mining, medicine, camping, trapping, panning for gold, explosives, banjo playing, harmonica playing, piano playing, fence building.
-PvE against mountain lions, cougars, coyotes, etc.
-Disover/estlabish trading routes between towns, Indians, etc.
-Run a brothel or bar.
-Bank heists.
-Street showdowns.
-Native American factions.

This can go on and on. I like it!!

I'd totally buy this, especially if it had a great spaghetti western soundtrack.
good idea id totally buy it too. maybe you should make it
 

Lvl 64 Klutz

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you guys are forgetting one important thing. To stay interesting games need not only some kind of reward to motivate players to work on their skills. Not rewards like money and equipment, but rewards as in experiences. Unfortunately, there's really only a handful of settings you could have in the old west, any difference between towns, canyons, deserts, ranches, etc. would be minimal, and not provide much motivation for working your character up to the point they can go to these places.
 

mipegg

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Mine shafts? Oasies? I guess you're right but Im sure it could be strung out.

Maybe make your 'skills' depend on how good you are. So if you consistantly pull off long range shots the game adjusts your damage so you do slightly better range damage than close damage etc?
 

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I would love to see a deadlands MMO. if any of you are familiar with the old pen/paper card and casino chip table top game. Basically that wild wild west movie on acid. with undead ginat tremorish worms harrowed spirits crazy weapons mad scientists and all sorts of crazy stuff. If anyone actually still tabletops i so reccomend that game.
 

Thais

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Lvl 64 Klutz post=9.70562.696369 said:
you guys are forgetting one important thing. To stay interesting games need not only some kind of reward to motivate players to work on their skills. Not rewards like money and equipment, but rewards as in experiences. Unfortunately, there's really only a handful of settings you could have in the old west, any difference between towns, canyons, deserts, ranches, etc. would be minimal, and not provide much motivation for working your character up to the point they can go to these places.
Maybe start them off "back east" and have them move to the west and move up through the "social ranks" of whatever group/alignment they chose? That way you have beginnier's levels in a city somewhere, you have levels along the various trails, and then you have levels when you get to wherever you were going. Pick the right trail and you can even have people playing out some of the more famous historical incidents involved in the era. (A Dahmer Pass minigame would be pretty tasteless, though. Or actually, it might taste like pork.)
 

Captain_Planet

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This actually soudns like a really good idea. I was actually wondering a couple weeks ago why there are not many mmorpgs with a unique setting. It seems as if there are tons of ideas waiting to be explroed,a nd I hope a developer will make a game along these lines. The wild west really isnt suited well fro an fps (at least not the way games like Dead Man's Hand portrayed it). Howver, an rpg seems like the perfect fit.
 

TBA

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This is actually a really great idea. I would certainly buy it. Im not sure how well some parts of it would work as an MMO, though. Some of the situations that you described sounded like they would be great MMO moments, however the overall game I think would be better as a single player game.
 

BentNeatly

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Lvl 64 Klutz post=9.70562.696369 said:
you guys are forgetting one important thing. To stay interesting games need not only some kind of reward to motivate players to work on their skills. Not rewards like money and equipment, but rewards as in experiences. Unfortunately, there's really only a handful of settings you could have in the old west, any difference between towns, canyons, deserts, ranches, etc. would be minimal, and not provide much motivation for working your character up to the point they can go to these places.
BEing the west, yes there would be a small amount of possible scenery, but i think that could be milked too. I for one love the old west feel, and would be delighted to ride across a range and come upon a man made canyon you had to climb down into, or a sudden green valley, or a small track of woods, or maybe even forsets, and mountains with snow even. All that stuff is doable, and i think in the end there would be a good enough difference and still make everything feel so usual