Will androids ever be considered as humans?

[megamanenm]

So let's say that someday androids will become commonplace. These androids will have human looks and movements indistinguishable from actual humans. They'd have computers functioning just like the brain, they can make spontaneous speech, drive cars, talk about politics etc. They also have emotions and nociception, along with their own opinions. Being robots, they don't have fluids like blood or sweat, don't need sleep, nourishment, and have to be recharged periodically.

So the big question, will they ever be fully considered as humans, being able to vote, make money, have jobs etc? Will they be slaves to their owners with no restrictions whatsoever, or something in between? Will they have to wear some marker signifying that they're robots or will production be stopped because of these problems?

Since I view the human body as just a machine, I'd say give them human rights. A human's ability to think, talk, memorize and et cetera is just electrical impulses send to the brain, the androids will have the same principle, only instead of a brain they'll use a computer.

 

[ShadowKatt]

When that day comes, I think it's going to be a rather large fight, similar to the one we have now against things like gay marrige and abortion. There are going to be a lot of people that resist it, due to the nature of the android being not human, and by extending human rights to a non-human it somehow makes themselves less human. And tehre will always be those that will see androids as a lower class entity, much the same way some people still see blacks(PC or not, you know it's true). However, like everything, there will also be those that will support it just because it's the right thing to do, and I believe that, just like now with some states adopting gay marrige and abortion clinics far from being closed down, when androids become commonplace and advanced enough to have a true, independent, sentient intelligence, they will be given the same rights as anyone else.

 

[Worgen]

we humans can bairly consider each other as human, I would be surprised if we could regard anything else as such

 

[Muramasa89]

Once they destroy us, yes!

 

[megamanenm]

Once they destroy us, yes!

They're not more powerful than any other human, or smarter.

 

[Pielikey]

Once they destroy us, yes!

They're not more powerful than any other human, or smarter.

Not yet!

 

[Lust]

So let's say that someday androids will become commonplace. These androids will have human looks and movements indistinguishable from actual humans. They'd have computers functioning just like the brain, they can make spontaneous speech, drive cars, talk about politics etc. They also have emotions and nociception, along with their own opinions. Being robots, they don't have fluids like blood or sweat, don't need sleep, nourishment, and have to be recharged periodically.

So the big question, will they ever be fully considered as humans, being able to vote, make money, have jobs etc? Will they be slaves to their owners with no restrictions whatsoever, or something in between? Will they have to wear some marker signifying that they're robots or will production be stopped because of these problems?

Since I view the human body as just a machine, I'd say give them human rights. A human's ability to think, talk, memorize and et cetera is just electrical impulses send to the brain, the androids will have the same principle, only instead of a brain they'll use a computer.

Once they can sleep and dream like us ,then, sure why not? That's all that's left of the transition from machine to human.

 

[Muramasa89]

Once they destroy us, yes!

They're not more powerful than any other human, or smarter.

Judging by what you said, and I'd assume they was more logical than us, they'd be smarter. Or at least how they go about things. They won't hate another android for being another model, whereas we hate each other based on skin colour. We're too flawed for my liking.

Power is irrelevant when it comes to smarts, and you don't need to be smarter to play on our flaws.

 

[demoman_chaos]

No, the same reason a monkey isn't considered human. An android is not human, it is an android.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Do they dream of electric sheep? If yes, they have already won, and we'll be lucky if we'll get to serve our new masters.
If not, we'll hunt 'em...

 

[DeleteMePlease9999]

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[SUPA FRANKY]

No, since their not. No matter what they do, they don't have flesh and blood, so no organs, no human.

But what exactly is the perk of being human? As long as I can move and can think for myself, whats the real difference?

 

[megamanenm]

No, the same reason a monkey isn't considered human. An android is not human, it is an android.

False analogy, monkeys are not indistinguishable from humans.

 

[Stoic raptor]

If they have sentience, self-awarness, then yes.

If they have sentience, they might as well be humans, as that what I think is an important human quality.
But we would have to wait until it happens to really know

 

[demoman_chaos]

No, the same reason a monkey isn't considered human. An android is not human, it is an android.

False analogy, monkeys are not indistinguishable from humans.

But you see my point at least, they are not human so therefore they aren't humans. They are advanced machines, not organic lifeforms like humans are.
Machines =/= people (FYI, the =/= is the mathematical symbol for "is/are not equal to").

 

[syndicated44]

Once they destroy us, yes!

They're not more powerful than any other human, or smarter.

Yet their robotic and everything I see with robots usually ends up very bad. See I am already prejiduce against them and they dont even exist.

To be honest no I would never imagine an android to be considered human. Their just simply not humans. They may be better at being human then we could ever imagine but in the end their not living breathing creatures simply a shadow of humanity. A very well made copy but not the original thing.

There are so many possibilities that could become problematic. For example say the factory their being built was funding a particular political party. They may be programmed to specifically like that particular party no matter what. If allowed to vote they would then push that particular party into power. That particular party would then be able to release updates or just build new robots to express their ideals.

Even if they are not any more powerful then a normal human they are still robots. There is the possibilty bits and pieces may be broken or supressed such as fear or self preservation and even morality.

You say they are no more smarter then humans yet as we move further on into the future humans are more and more like cattle. We are easily swayed and almost always acceptant. Skepticism is usually confronted with ignorance. As I said even if the robot was a perfect human its still not human. Its still just a series of circuits and algorithms. Its programmed by a human and there is no promises that human has the best intentions. It doesnt learn morality and it doesnt learn love or compassion. It doesnt learn anything it is simply told what feelings it should have at a given situation. You say it yourself it is just a bunch of wires and circuits and thats all it will ever be.

 

[megamanenm]

No, the same reason a monkey isn't considered human. An android is not human, it is an android.

False analogy, monkeys are not indistinguishable from humans.

But you see my point at least, they are not human so therefore they aren't humans. They are advanced machines, not organic lifeforms like humans are.
Machines =/= people (FYI, the =/= is the mathematical symbol for "is/are not equal to").

Yes they're not humans, the real question is will they have the rights humans have?

 

[demoman_chaos]

Yes they're not humans, the real question is will they have the rights humans have?

You asked if they would be considered humans, which they will not.
I see no reason to make a machine into a full-fledged citizen. Androids will never exist because there is no reason for them. Robots are built to fulfill 1 purpose, be it painting a car or welding. There is no reason to make a robotic person since robots are really only good as specialization.

But hypothetically, if there were androids that were human in everyway except the fact they were built instead of born, I say nay to their rights. They are machines, if they don't like it they can go dive into a car crusher. If they try to revolt, a simple EMP blast will shut them up for good.

 

[fletch_talon]

I think the question is why are we mass producing intelligent android human replicas which are no stronger or smarter than us?
Machines exist to make our lives easier, seems to me that if we wanted to make machines that are going to do all the work (I assume that is the androids' purpose) then it would be smarter to make them specifically for certain tasks.
A labouring robot should be strong and equipped with tools it requires, it shouldn't be as smart as a human, it should be programmed to do what it has to do.

Basically, no, I don't think robots should have the same rights as humans, but this is largely because I don't believe they'll ever reach human levels of intelligence/emotion/creativity and even if they could, we'd have no reason to create them as such.