Will MW3 be the next CoD4

[Snotnarok]

I think World at War and CoD4 will be the best for a long while. Activision puts too much pressure on them now to make the most intense action shooter ever. Which means they won't put any slower/low points in the gameplay, that's what made the others so damn good. WaW, you played dead with a crazy russian commander and then had a sniper battle, then you were in a gunship shooting down at planes and then you land in the water to shoot kamakazi pilots down....uhhh amazing? Yes it makes the highs even better because you look forward to them

 

[Rex De'ath-Vale]

Hey guys, the latest CoD game to be given an official Number after "call of duty" (excluding a number after modern warfare) was
Call of Duty 4: Modern warfare
WaW wasn't officially named CoD5, and MW2 wasn't officially named CoD6, BO wasn't officially named CoD7
So like with GTA, it didn't go GTA3, GTA4; no it went GTA3, GTA Vice city, GTA SA, GTA4.
You never know, perhaps they are doing a similar thing; Perhaps, by this highly unlikely, billion to one idea, they may be hiding a game officially called "Call of Duty 5", and that for the past 3 years it's been in production, and will actually be an advancement.
However, this is VERY HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
That's possibly the only way i would pick up another CoD game again, if that were true... so it looks like i might just never pick up another CoD game.

i was on board since Our Finest Hour, and after WaW i got bored; i did get MW2 but got quickly bored, and BO i only borrowed so i could play with friends, but i stopped pretty quickly.
But MW3 definitely won't be anything special, just the same as the others
(And btw, WaW was my fav)

 

[AlphaEcho]

DEH AWSUM 1337 STOREH WITH A GUD AMERIKEN MSG AT DEH END LOLOOOOL"

Wait, what? have, you played either MW game up to this point?

One ends with the only survivors being a Russian, a Brit, a Scottsman, and ONE (1) American after the rest of the teams have been massacred.

And the other ends with America still technically occupied by the Russians, and heavily hinting that the main protagonists of the next game will be the Scottsman and the Brit.

Someone explain to me how that's a 'GUD AMERIKEN MSG,' if it's not too much trouble.

(if this double posts, oh well, not much I can do about it)

OH? I have beat every one.
WaW: The American ending is pretty much "YEAH AMERICA FTW" after you make a supposedly hard choice.
MW2: Has a ton of Americans standing on the white house talking about how they will burn Moscow like a ton of bad asses.
BOps: Holy fucking shit, you go out of a Soviet super submarine you blow up and there is the entire fucking navy, if that was not enough, they have god damned blue angels flying by in formation. How the hell is that not pro American.
MW3: Although this is not the ending, they do a damned fine job of ignoring the fact that the US, Brits and Russians are not the only ones with a large military.

Even IF they were not pro American, they still make no bloody sense.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

Activision hasn't had a very good track record with patching their games post-launch. If they commit to fixing the problems that come up after launch, it could very well be the next CoD4. If not, it might just be another MW2.

 

[Monsieur E]

MW3 to be as good as CoD4? Hell no.

I hope CoD5 is called, "Call of Duty 5: Future Combat"

That would be SO badass. I might have faith in the FPS genre again.

CAPTCHA: battle ikemov. NO RUSSIAN, captcha. SPACE Russians. Hell yeah.

 

[Elijah Ball]

No, it'll be more like MW2. Have you seen any trailers for the game? It looks exactly like MW2.

it's using the same engine as mw2, so of course its gonna look the same.

 

[Treblaine]

MW3: Although this is not the ending, they do a damned fine job of ignoring the fact that the US, Brits and Russians are not the only ones with a large military.

Even IF they were not pro American, they still make no bloody sense.

Um, what about the "FRANC3" and "G3RMANY" and "3NGLAND" trailers that clearly show many other non-English nations in the fight?

Also, yeah US and Russia ARE the only countries with the super-armies you need to fight a war on this scale.

We have less than 200'000 infantrymen in our entire armed forces, and our Navy is extremely limited in scope. Germany and France too just have not got the muscle.

USA, Russia and China are the big players. But China's business relations with USA and proximity to Russia you can see why they aren't getting involved. That and the size of their military is constrained by their short-legged navy they are an incredible military force but highly regional.

 

[AlphaEcho]

MW3: Although this is not the ending, they do a damned fine job of ignoring the fact that the US, Brits and Russians are not the only ones with a large military.

Even IF they were not pro American, they still make no bloody sense.

Um, what about the "FRANC3" and "G3RMANY" and "3NGLAND" trailers that clearly show many other non-English nations in the fight?

Also, yeah US and Russia ARE the only countries with the super-armies you need to fight a war on this scale.

We have less than 200'000 infantrymen in our entire armed forces, and our Navy is extremely limited in scope. Germany and France too just have not got the muscle.

USA, Russia and China are the big players. But China's business relations with USA and proximity to Russia you can see why they aren't getting involved. That and the size of their military is constrained by their short-legged navy they are an incredible military force but highly regional.

Russia's military does not have the power to wage a war on the scale they are showing, Russia can hardly keep its self together and has not been a legitimate threat since the nineties. They can cause damage but they will hardly be able to hold off against Nato and the UN.

The Chinese are pathetic military wise, the only reason anyone cares is because of their size which is because half of them are draftees. They have almost no morale, they use weapons from the seventies, they have almost no legitimate air force and they are poorly trained.

Germany, France and England have superb militaries, they have some of the best technology in the world and England has a nuclear stock pile. Combined they could probably take over half of Russia for a time.

Come to think of it, Russia goes to war with all of Europe and completely ignores the fact they rely on the UN and NATO. The US, England, Germany and France can easily beat Russia, not to mention all the other countries of the UN. This is not the Cold War, China and Russia are not massive scary super powers. The only thing Russia has is a nuclear stock pile and that is assuming all of them are well made and accurate.

Oh, and each trailer pretty much showed an army of Yank's saving the day.

 

[Treblaine]

No, it'll be more like MW2. Have you seen any trailers for the game? It looks exactly like MW2.

it's using the same engine as mw2, so of course its gonna look the same.

Nope. Ever COD game has used the same engine as COD4's

MW3's problem is it is using so many of the same ASSETS! That is weapon models, enemies and specular settings and so on.

COD4 and MW2 really constrast in appearance

MW2 and Blops contrast in appearance

MW2 and MW3 compare quite closely.

Spoiler: Look at this:

It's near identical model with the same picatinny rail, same iron sights, same specular mapping (how shiny it appears). Black ops was able to make a stock assault rifle look distinct.

 

[redisforever]

I think, technically, it will be CoD8. Thassalotta fish!

I think CoD 10 actually. Call of Duty Finest Hour, and Call of Duty 2 Big Red One, for the consoles only. I just happen to know that because I have them, and Big Red One was actually good.

 

[cubikill]

MW2 was great. And it was a hell of a lot better than COD4. Anyone who says COD4 was more balanced than MW2 doesnt know what they are talking about, its that simple.

I love the slam that you had to make. Cant you just like MW2 more that COD4 without slamming every else who doesnt? And for the record MW2 wasn't even close to being remotely balanced, nether was COD4, but hey thats how I feel.

Dude, I think you misinterpreted my post. I do like MW2 more, but if you like COD4 more, thats fine. I can even see why. I have no issue with that at all, not in the slightest.

The thing that pisses me off is when a legion of idiots who want to look smart talk about how COD4 was perfectly balanced while MW2 sucks in that regard. Bullshit. 3x grenade, martyrdom as a perk, the MP5 and the M16, the list goes on. COD4 was not balanced in the slightest. It was a long shot worse than MW2. Join any server in COD4 and your "bullshit death" counter will hit the top before you can even ready your weapon. MW2, its bad, but slightly slower.

Anyhow, I just found a supposedly legit perk and killstreak - sorry, pointstreak - list which is straight from that Robert Bowling dude (not sure if thats his name, you know the guy), and it aint looking good. Deathstreaks are back, one of them being stopping power. Since all the guns already have stopping power because the perk has been removed its probably going to be a one shot kill or some bullshit, once again making it almost impossible to do well. Martyrdom and final stand are back as deathstreaks, all that shit. Then theres a weird chopper gunner killstreak which gives you a, you guessed it, manned chopper gun and 4 care packages AKA an emergency air drop, which sounds OP as a mofo. *sigh*

Man, what the fuck am I going to play. Battlefield 3 is looking good but then theres the minor issue of having to install bloated spyware to run it, and MW3 is full of bullshit perks and the likes. Not good.

I guess i did. Any ways thanks for clarifying what you meant, and its nice to see that not everyone on the internet is a total jerk.

 

[Flac00]

No, it'll be more like MW2. Have you seen any trailers for the game? It looks exactly like MW2.

Yes, they used the same graphics as mw2. That means that instead of working a lot on the graphics they can focus on the gameplay and balance

Sorry but thats no excuse for a triple a game running on the same engine as its last 4 predecessors. Balance does not require a huge budget or a humongous team to do. Sure graphics alone don't show game quality, but the lack of advancement in the graphics, sound, and gameplay of the past games has left a pretty bad taste in people's mouths.

Half life 2, ep1 and ep2 all use the source engine. They all feature the exact same weapons. 2 and ep1 are set in the same city. There is only a few new tracks added throughout the 3. They feature exactly the same enemies, only adding slight variations. They all have the same sorts of puzzles. They have pretty much the same gameplay. None of this has left a bad taste in anyone mouths because its a good game (probably also just because its called half life). Yet call of duty gets bashed for having the same engine more than half life has most things the same. IMO your post was just another example of call of duty bashing just because its popular and war based, and made by activision. Can you please tell me how the half life 2 series gets away with it whilst cod only has the same engine( although that is not technically true, if you look at cod 4 then mw2 they look very different) and it gets bashed and says that it leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths

I have a problem with COD, not because its popular, but because it has stagnated. And yes, Half life 2 episode 2 got criticized a lot because of the Source engine, as has every other modern valve game (unfortunately valve is still trying to wring the last juice out of the source engine). . Now COD has been using the same engine for the past 4-5 years, that is completely true. Sure the engine is upgraded a bit, but its still the same engine. Unreal Engine 3 is still the same engine whether it be Gears of War or Bioshock or Mass Effect 2.
The lack of engine advancement (and graphics in general) is not really the problem anyways. The problem is deeper, and the whole graphics situation is the tip of the iceberg. The problem is this: because of the small amount of development time for each developer on the Call of Duty franchise, there is not enough time to create a different experience. Take the Battlefield franchise for example. Although they have had many sequels and games, they all act completely different (exceptions being BF2142 and BF: Vietnam). After each major iteration in the series, the games have a radical change in graphics, gameplay, and everything else.
Example: First release BF1942, Next major game: BF2 (huge upgrades in everything from scale to time period to teamplay) Next Major Game: Battlefield Bad Company (destructible environments, improved physics, graphics etc., also very different gameplay feel and style). Next Major Game: Battlefield 3 (cannot say with certainty as it is not released, however much has been improved and changed to gameplay, graphics, and physics).
Now Call of Duty, it was fine with 1, 2, and 4 (3 was iffy, though treyarch did change up the formula). Call of Duty 5 was the equivalent of a Call of Duty 4 mod in WW2, it was ok but did not change much at all in multiplayer. Call of Duty 6 (MW2), slightly changed the multiplayer by adding stuff, not much else. Call of Duty 7 (black ops), it changed almost nothing, new guns and time period, but not much difference.
Synopsis: Call of Duty has not changed much over the past 4-5 years, still the same gameplay, graphics, sound (which arguably got worse with WaW and Blops), and physics.

 

[Flac00]

I think, technically, it will be CoD8. Thassalotta fish!

I think CoD 10 actually. Call of Duty Finest Hour, and Call of Duty 2 Big Red One, for the consoles only. I just happen to know that because I have them, and Big Red One was actually good.

I don't know, they seem like "offshoots" to me. They might have been good, but they still werent the main series. A lot of franchises do that, like how half life is still stuck on 2, and just doing episodes.

 

[redisforever]

I think, technically, it will be CoD8. Thassalotta fish!

I think CoD 10 actually. Call of Duty Finest Hour, and Call of Duty 2 Big Red One, for the consoles only. I just happen to know that because I have them, and Big Red One was actually good.

I don't know, they seem like "offshoots" to me. They might have been good, but they still werent the main series. A lot of franchises do that, like how half life is still stuck on 2, and just doing episodes.

I guess you're right. Out of curiocity, I looked it up, when MW3 comes out, there will have been 17 different CoD games. That's PSP and DS versions counting.

 

[Flac00]

I think, technically, it will be CoD8. Thassalotta fish!

I think CoD 10 actually. Call of Duty Finest Hour, and Call of Duty 2 Big Red One, for the consoles only. I just happen to know that because I have them, and Big Red One was actually good.

I don't know, they seem like "offshoots" to me. They might have been good, but they still werent the main series. A lot of franchises do that, like how half life is still stuck on 2, and just doing episodes.

I guess you're right. Out of curiocity, I looked it up, when MW3 comes out, there will have been 17 different CoD games. That's PSP and DS versions counting.

Jesus thats a lot.

 

[redisforever]

I think, technically, it will be CoD8. Thassalotta fish!

I think CoD 10 actually. Call of Duty Finest Hour, and Call of Duty 2 Big Red One, for the consoles only. I just happen to know that because I have them, and Big Red One was actually good.

I don't know, they seem like "offshoots" to me. They might have been good, but they still werent the main series. A lot of franchises do that, like how half life is still stuck on 2, and just doing episodes.

I guess you're right. Out of curiocity, I looked it up, when MW3 comes out, there will have been 17 different CoD games. That's PSP and DS versions counting.

Jesus thats a lot.

That's an understatement. Oh wait, I think there have been cell phone versions as well...

 

[RobCoxxy]

If you can do better alone than with a team and the right combination of perks and mods, you haven't got a CoD4, you have a MW2.

 

[burningdragoon]

I think, technically, it will be CoD8. Thassalotta fish!

Call of Duty 8: Modern Warfare 3: The Shootening.

What were we talking about again? Oh right, um... I am pretty sure people are gonna be saying that about every upcoming CoD game and then once it comes out it will... either be true of false.

 

[SilentCom]

No, it'll be more like MW2. Have you seen any trailers for the game? It looks exactly like MW2.

Survival Mode wasn't in MW2.
Have you read fourzerotwo's twitter at all?
It sounds not exactly like MW2.

Survival mode doesn't look that good to me. It reminds me of a cross between the spec ops mode in MW2 and zombies from Black ops. While both those modes were decent, I don't think survival mode in MW3 will be ground breaking in anyway. It seems more like just another feature added.