Will the world ever accept another white rapper?

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flam3boy

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BonsaiK said:
flam3boy said:
Rap has been dying for 10 years or so, just let it go man. Rap was the 90s, just like disco was the 80s. in another 10 years or so, Rap wont even exist anymore.
Hahahaha, not a chance. Rap has about as much chance of suddenly turning up its toes as heavy metal. Rap now surpasses country music as the #1 most profitable music genre in the US and has made serious inroads in almost all other western countries. There's more rap in more places making more money now than ever before. It won't be dying, the only thing that could kill rap at this point is an EMP burst from the sun frying Earth's entire electricity grid, and even then we'd still have acappella and beatboxing.
you really think people will listen to rap in 10 years? also i dont think you even know rap, what flo-rida, t-pain and the newest eminem songs are, thats not rap, thats pop/RnB. There is barely ANY rap in the business anymore,its all this autotune radio shit.
 

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flam3boy said:
BonsaiK said:
flam3boy said:
Rap has been dying for 10 years or so, just let it go man. Rap was the 90s, just like disco was the 80s. in another 10 years or so, Rap wont even exist anymore.
Hahahaha, not a chance. Rap has about as much chance of suddenly turning up its toes as heavy metal. Rap now surpasses country music as the #1 most profitable music genre in the US and has made serious inroads in almost all other western countries. There's more rap in more places making more money now than ever before. It won't be dying, the only thing that could kill rap at this point is an EMP burst from the sun frying Earth's entire electricity grid, and even then we'd still have acappella and beatboxing.
you really think people will listen to rap in 10 years? also i dont think you even know rap, what flo-rida, t-pain and the newest eminem songs are, thats not rap, thats pop/RnB. There is barely ANY rap in the business anymore,its all this autotune radio shit.
Jokes on you for listening to the mainstream nonsense. Rap started underground and will always be underground. Rap is far from dead, it's alive and it's beautiful.

You just gotta look for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ej_6JCnO4
 

HardkorSB

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What do you mean "are we doomed to have only one"?.
Check these guys out:

The Beastie Boys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qORYO0atB6g

Ugly Duckling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsoKLzdPqmw

MC Serch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XB7BXeGy3k

Brother Ali:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxUQ07NXB4c

I think that's a little bit more than one. I can find you more but I don't think that I need to, though.
 

BonsaiK

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flam3boy said:
you really think people will listen to rap in 10 years?
Absolutely definitely 100% sure of it. In the 80s people were saying the same thing - "no-one will be listening to this in 10 years". They said it in the 90s too. They said it in the 2000s and now they're saying it in the 2010s... and rap has only gotten bigger every decade. It may not always be the #1 most popular style of music that it is right now, but it'll never go away completely.

flam3boy said:
also i dont think you even know rap, what flo-rida, t-pain and the newest eminem songs are, thats not rap, thats pop/RnB. There is barely ANY rap in the business anymore,its all this autotune radio shit.
Rap defines a vocal style. If someone is rapping, it's rap. If someone isn't rapping it's not rap. It doesn't get any more complicated than that. I hear plenty of rap all the time so maybe you're just listening to some really shitty radio stations.
 

flam3boy

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Daddy Go Bot said:
flam3boy said:
BonsaiK said:
flam3boy said:
Rap has been dying for 10 years or so, just let it go man. Rap was the 90s, just like disco was the 80s. in another 10 years or so, Rap wont even exist anymore.
Hahahaha, not a chance. Rap has about as much chance of suddenly turning up its toes as heavy metal. Rap now surpasses country music as the #1 most profitable music genre in the US and has made serious inroads in almost all other western countries. There's more rap in more places making more money now than ever before. It won't be dying, the only thing that could kill rap at this point is an EMP burst from the sun frying Earth's entire electricity grid, and even then we'd still have acappella and beatboxing.
you really think people will listen to rap in 10 years? also i dont think you even know rap, what flo-rida, t-pain and the newest eminem songs are, thats not rap, thats pop/RnB. There is barely ANY rap in the business anymore,its all this autotune radio shit.
Jokes on you for listening to the mainstream nonsense. Rap started underground and will always be underground. Rap is far from dead, it's alive and it's beautiful.

You just gotta look for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ej_6JCnO4
if something emerge as rap did in the 90s, then submerge into the underground again, how is that a genre thats expanding? its the opposite of expanding, its dying. As i mentioned earlier, the 80s and disco had a similar experience. I'm not saying i dont enjoy real rap, there is some really good stuff out there still, but its getting less and less, soon people wont even bother making that kind of music because the fanbase will be so small and obscure, there wont be any real profit in making it.
 

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anyone can rap, the ability to be able to talk rythmically is not genetic, its a skill people learn. besides there already is a lot of rappers from all ethnic backgrounds, just look at the UK grime scene.
 

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The problem isn't with rap in particular, but the entire music industry. We live in a post internet world where the big suits in bigger corporations are not executors of what is popular on the radio. Now days most people find exposure via the internet, and the music industry in general has become so fragmented that it's not really about what the "world" likes so much as whether or not you can find sufficient niche.

The "high water mark" for rap has already come and gone- that point where the industry legitimately had a large number of artists that really innovated within the genre. Now they've reached that point that rock did 50-some odd years ago where it too had to reach outside the genre. Don't misunderstand though- in the US rap is the single most popular genre of music. It's just reached and passed it's peak. All that really means is that for anyone to get noticed they need to be particularly talented.
 

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Looptroop Rockers / Promoe / Unknown Prophets / Copywrite / Tonedeff

There's some great white hip-hop artists for ya!

Unknown Prophets - Against The Grain ==> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asV8RIA5moo
Quality ain't too great but meh!

CunninLynguists - Hard As They Come ==> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCDg0KqGJ_c
 

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flam3boy said:
Daddy Go Bot said:
flam3boy said:
BonsaiK said:
flam3boy said:
Rap has been dying for 10 years or so, just let it go man. Rap was the 90s, just like disco was the 80s. in another 10 years or so, Rap wont even exist anymore.
Hahahaha, not a chance. Rap has about as much chance of suddenly turning up its toes as heavy metal. Rap now surpasses country music as the #1 most profitable music genre in the US and has made serious inroads in almost all other western countries. There's more rap in more places making more money now than ever before. It won't be dying, the only thing that could kill rap at this point is an EMP burst from the sun frying Earth's entire electricity grid, and even then we'd still have acappella and beatboxing.
you really think people will listen to rap in 10 years? also i dont think you even know rap, what flo-rida, t-pain and the newest eminem songs are, thats not rap, thats pop/RnB. There is barely ANY rap in the business anymore,its all this autotune radio shit.
Jokes on you for listening to the mainstream nonsense. Rap started underground and will always be underground. Rap is far from dead, it's alive and it's beautiful.

You just gotta look for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ej_6JCnO4
if something emerge as rap did in the 90s, then submerge into the underground again, how is that a genre thats expanding? its the opposite of expanding, its dying. As i mentioned earlier, the 80s and disco had a similar experience. I'm not saying i dont enjoy real rap, there is some really good stuff out there still, but its getting less and less, soon people wont even bother making that kind of music because the fanbase will be so small and obscure, there wont be any real profit in making it.
Oh, you honestly think Hip-Hop is about profit? You really don't get it, bro. Hip-Hop is an eternal culture.
 

flam3boy

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Daddy Go Bot said:
flam3boy said:
Daddy Go Bot said:
flam3boy said:
BonsaiK said:
flam3boy said:
Rap has been dying for 10 years or so, just let it go man. Rap was the 90s, just like disco was the 80s. in another 10 years or so, Rap wont even exist anymore.
Hahahaha, not a chance. Rap has about as much chance of suddenly turning up its toes as heavy metal. Rap now surpasses country music as the #1 most profitable music genre in the US and has made serious inroads in almost all other western countries. There's more rap in more places making more money now than ever before. It won't be dying, the only thing that could kill rap at this point is an EMP burst from the sun frying Earth's entire electricity grid, and even then we'd still have acappella and beatboxing.
you really think people will listen to rap in 10 years? also i dont think you even know rap, what flo-rida, t-pain and the newest eminem songs are, thats not rap, thats pop/RnB. There is barely ANY rap in the business anymore,its all this autotune radio shit.
Jokes on you for listening to the mainstream nonsense. Rap started underground and will always be underground. Rap is far from dead, it's alive and it's beautiful.

You just gotta look for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ej_6JCnO4
if something emerge as rap did in the 90s, then submerge into the underground again, how is that a genre thats expanding? its the opposite of expanding, its dying. As i mentioned earlier, the 80s and disco had a similar experience. I'm not saying i dont enjoy real rap, there is some really good stuff out there still, but its getting less and less, soon people wont even bother making that kind of music because the fanbase will be so small and obscure, there wont be any real profit in making it.
Oh, you honestly think Hip-Hop is about profit? You really don't get it, bro. Hip-Hop is an eternal culture.
MUSIC in general is about profit. If all music was free, no one would be making it. Inspiring artists dont do it for nothing but money, you dont see ANY real artists that do music for free, now do you? and in all right, why spend weeks, months, even years making music if you could've made more money working on mcdonalds for a month?
 

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flam3boy said:
Daddy Go Bot said:
flam3boy said:
Daddy Go Bot said:
flam3boy said:
BonsaiK said:
flam3boy said:
Rap has been dying for 10 years or so, just let it go man. Rap was the 90s, just like disco was the 80s. in another 10 years or so, Rap wont even exist anymore.
Hahahaha, not a chance. Rap has about as much chance of suddenly turning up its toes as heavy metal. Rap now surpasses country music as the #1 most profitable music genre in the US and has made serious inroads in almost all other western countries. There's more rap in more places making more money now than ever before. It won't be dying, the only thing that could kill rap at this point is an EMP burst from the sun frying Earth's entire electricity grid, and even then we'd still have acappella and beatboxing.
you really think people will listen to rap in 10 years? also i dont think you even know rap, what flo-rida, t-pain and the newest eminem songs are, thats not rap, thats pop/RnB. There is barely ANY rap in the business anymore,its all this autotune radio shit.
Jokes on you for listening to the mainstream nonsense. Rap started underground and will always be underground. Rap is far from dead, it's alive and it's beautiful.

You just gotta look for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ej_6JCnO4
if something emerge as rap did in the 90s, then submerge into the underground again, how is that a genre thats expanding? its the opposite of expanding, its dying. As i mentioned earlier, the 80s and disco had a similar experience. I'm not saying i dont enjoy real rap, there is some really good stuff out there still, but its getting less and less, soon people wont even bother making that kind of music because the fanbase will be so small and obscure, there wont be any real profit in making it.
Oh, you honestly think Hip-Hop is about profit? You really don't get it, bro. Hip-Hop is an eternal culture.
MUSIC in general is about profit. If all music was free, no one would be making it. Inspiring artists dont do it for nothing but money, you dont see ANY real artists that do music for free, now do you? and in all right, why spend weeks, months, even years making music if you could've made more money working on mcdonalds for a month?
You just don't get it, man. You just don't get it.
 

Kenami

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Dan Le Sac Vs Scroobius Pip

Nuff said.

But to elaborate more here is a white rapper whose not rapping about flashy cars or "bitches and ho's" yet still sounds talented as hell. Hope you guys enjoy him.
 

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I imagine they'll accept it once everyone stops focusing on how white or black they are.
 

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Can the world stop accepting rappers regardless of race? *puts up flame shield*

No, but I don't think it will happen.
 

Lt. Vinciti

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Why would you want to be a white rapper?

Another corruption and stain on humanity...


Vanilla Ice already has the long living fame....even tho he gained it in '89
 

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ForensicYOYO said:
Im saying this not to be racist, but to point out the problem I have with rap itself. Why is it there can be 1,000 black rappers talking about the same things (ie Flashing cash and getting that ass) and no one cares, but then a white guy other the Eminem trys to rap about anything he is immediately associated with trying to be an other Eminem? Rap has so much potential but few know how to really dig deeper then what we have heard hundreds of times, and it wouldn't even be that hard.
I am a white guy who has grown up with rap + rock and love rap with a passion. But I dont want to show the world what Ive got if they wont look past my color and assume Im trying to be something Im not. So in ur honest opinion whether you like rap or hate it do you think the world is ready to have white rappers other then Eminem or we doomed to have only one?

EDIT: Seriously. Im embarrassed that anyone even considered Vanilla Ice. He only had 1 hit! I dont even think he even wrote it or used his voice. This is exactly my problem. Why can't everyone make rap out to be a something more changeable? Its like saying water can only take a shape of a square.
You obviously listen to pop-rap otherwise you wouldn't be making this point. Aesop Rock, Abdominal, MC Paul Barman, Evidence (from Dilated Peoples), Ugly Duckling, El-P, DJ Muggs (not a rapper but is Cypress Hill's DJ so...), Cage, should I go on?

I think I've made my point. Anyway, if you like Eminem you should check out Masta Ace (in particalar Disposable Arts).

And who was it exactly the fought for your right party?