Will the world ever accept another white rapper?

[The Heik]

Im saying this not to be racist, but to point out the problem I have with rap itself. Why is it there can be 1,000 black rappers talking about the same things (ie Flashing cash and getting that ass) and no one cares, but then a white guy other the Eminem trys to rap about anything he is immediately associated with trying to be an other Eminem? Rap has so much potential but few know how to really dig deeper then what we have heard hundreds of times, and it wouldn't even be that hard.
I am a white guy who has grown up with rap + rock and love rap with a passion. But I dont want to show the world what Ive got if they wont look past my color and assume Im trying to be something Im not. So in ur honest opinion whether you like rap or hate it do you think the world is ready to have white rappers other then Eminem or we doomed to have only one?

EDIT: Seriously. Im embarrassed that anyone even considered Vanilla Ice. He only had 1 hit! I dont even think he even wrote it or used his voice. This is exactly my problem. Why can't everyone make rap out to be a something more changeable? Its like saying water can only take a shape of a square.

You've never heard of Classified then? he's a Canadian hip hop/rapper, and he's actually pretty good.

Here's an example:


So ya, it's not that there aren't any popular white rappers, it's just that there are so many rappers in general that it's hard to spot out any particular ones without them having won an award prior.

 

[mrdude2010]

i've kind of hated rap since like 2005. pre 2005 i listened to it a lot. basically you get your occasional paul wall who will have a nice hit or two, but i feel like the majority of the rap consumer base WANTS black rappers because htey're seen as more authentically ghetto, in the same way that the country music fanbase WANTS white singers because they feel more country. i guess. i don't know really, i'm not a sociologist

 

[19]

Your race shouldn't matter if you can make good music.
My favourite artist is Buck 65.

 

[I Fiend I]

There's a bunch of accepted good white rappers. Heres 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDL5TZNdpOA

 

[BlindMessiah94]

Im saying this not to be racist, but to point out the problem I have with rap itself. Why is it there can be 1,000 black rappers talking about the same things (ie Flashing cash and getting that ass) and no one cares, but then a white guy other the Eminem trys to rap about anything he is immediately associated with trying to be an other Eminem? Rap has so much potential but few know how to really dig deeper then what we have heard hundreds of times, and it wouldn't even be that hard.
I am a white guy who has grown up with rap + rock and love rap with a passion. But I dont want to show the world what Ive got if they wont look past my color and assume Im trying to be something Im not. So in ur honest opinion whether you like rap or hate it do you think the world is ready to have white rappers other then Eminem or we doomed to have only one?

EDIT: Seriously. Im embarrassed that anyone even considered Vanilla Ice. He only had 1 hit! I dont even think he even wrote it or used his voice. This is exactly my problem. Why can't everyone make rap out to be a something more changeable? Its like saying water can only take a shape of a square.

You said it yourself. Everyone is rapping about flashing cash and getting that ass. Including Eminem. The only rappers I have ever taken seriously are people like Mos Def. Who actually rap about issues that matter to them.

So I wouldn't care whether the rapper was white black or whatever. If they are rapping about the same shit as everyone else then I won't care.

Is the world ready to have white rappers other than eminem? Sure, if they are talented enough, or if they are manufactured enough. Either one will work. I don't think people judge music by the race of the person that is singing it. Then again when was the last time we've seen the record labels try and market a teenage black girl to us? It's almost always the blonde hair blue eyed white Mickey Mouse Club gang.

 

[katsumoto03]

EDIT: Seriously. Im embarrassed that anyone even considered Vanilla Ice. He only had 1 hit! I dont even think he even wrote it or used his voice. This is exactly my problem. Why can't everyone make rap out to be a something more changeable? Its like saying water can only take a shape of a square.

What do you mean 1? He had at least 2 that have stood the test of time and these are just the ones that are remembered today like 21 years later.

Spoiler: 1

Spoiler: 2

Besides. Dude was in a Ninja Turtles movie... Seriously. That alone makes him awesomer than pretty much every other rap artist ever.
What has any other rapper ever done that has even come close to how awesome that is?

*Cough*[sub]Well, plenty have actually made good songs, for one thing...[/sub]*Cough*

OT: I think J3T from Hollywood Undead is white, so... Yeah, I guess he's the only Caucasian I've ever given a shit about.

 

[jbrooks]

Nobody's mentioned Mike Shinoda? The rapper from Linkin Park? Now, before you say anything about how Linkin Park sucks, just know that his solo work and the collabos he does with other underground rappers is absolutely amazing. It makes one wonder why he's still with Linkin Park; they're actually holding him back from an artistic standpoint. And I've never heard anybody compare him to Eminem, so that's a plus.

Also, there's this rapper from the South who calls himself Yelawolf. He's white and I think he's only released one mixtape and one album (don't quote me on that, I haven't done too much digging), but he's already done songs with Big Boi from Outkast, Gucci Mane (yea I wouldn't be proud of that one), Bun B, and other mainstream rappers. He recently signed with Shady Records back in January and he has a VEVO account on YouTube. So I guess you could say he's a white rapper who's going mainstream that isn't being labeled as "trying to be like Eminem".

 

[Dags90]

Isn't Pitbull white? He might be Cuban, but the dude is white. Blue eyes and everything. And he's pretty darn popular. I don't get why though.

 

[ForensicYOYO]

EDIT: Seriously. Im embarrassed that anyone even considered Vanilla Ice. He only had 1 hit! I dont even think he even wrote it or used his voice. This is exactly my problem. Why can't everyone make rap out to be a something more changeable? Its like saying water can only take a shape of a square.

What do you mean 1? He had at least 2 that have stood the test of time and these are just the ones that are remembered today like 21 years later.

Spoiler: 1

Spoiler: 2

Besides. Dude was in a Ninja Turtles movie... Seriously. That alone makes him awesomer than pretty much every other rap artist ever.
What has any other rapper ever done that has even come close to how awesome that is?

So ur saying what makes a great rapper is not his raps but what movie he plays in. Man have I had it wrong :/

 

[Voration]

I think its possible for there to be another 'white' rapper. But success is down to your own luck, drive and talent. I think that if you really want to rap, do it, give it your own uniqueness and don't give a damn about those saying you're trying to be the next eminem. There will always be critics, but don't let them stop you.

 

[ForensicYOYO]

We have dozens of rappers in Poland and not one of them is black, as far as I know.

If the first thing you think about when considering making rap is "will they compare me to Eminem," then aren't you already trying to be like him?

The problem is comparing me or any other white rapper in America to only him and not rap as a whole solely because of skin. its what every black baseball player had to deal with after Jackie Robinson.

 

[MordinSolus]

I hope so. Too many black people I know always say white guys can't rap. If I asked every white person I knew, they'd say that they just don't want to, not that they can't

 

[ForensicYOYO]

but then a white guy other the Eminem trys to rap about anything he is immediately associated with trying to be an other Eminem?

This problem is mostly in your head... and in Eminem's head, because he of course talks about it nonstop. That's not to be taken seriously; in the school of hip-hop trash-talk he came into, it's just a formalism to declare that everybody is totally trying to be you and bite your awesome style and lyrics.

Not to say that hip-hop doesn't have its problems, like the increasing vapidity of its mainstream culture and, even more ominous, the beginning of splintering of the "underground" into endless sub-genres ("nerdcore," "horrorcore," "death rap" et cetera; this is exactly the trajectory metal took as the stadium-rocking "hair band" was sounding its death rattle). A deficiency of white rappers just isn't one of those problems, certainly not now of all times. The Streets, Aesop Rock, Atmosphere, Diabolic, Necro, MC Chris, Vinnie Paz, Sage Francis, EL-P, Apathy, Celph Titled, Remedy, Bubba Sparxxx, Non Phixion... that's just off the top of my head, and not counting major acts from back in the day like 3rd Bass and the Beasties. Far as I know, nobody confuses any of them with Eminem.

Guess we'll have to pick a different topic for the Escapist's Caucasian Pity Party of the Day. Is there a black comedian making a "white people do this" joke somewhere?

You make valid points. I just want rap to grow even larger where it doesn't matter who does it. Thanks for your comments.

 

[Snake Plissken]

MC Paul Barman is the only white rapper the world will ever need.

 

[The Human Torch]

Why? Are you thinking of starting a career as one?

 

[Vakz]

Not to be "that guy", but hopefully the world will never accept another rapper.. at all..