Will there be an Atheist, Female, or Homosexual President in our lifetime?

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Doitpow

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female-20 years
atheist-50-60 years
gay-120 years

outsiders perspective

Hilary Clinton could have possibly president, I think she was defeated more because she was a Clinton than she was a woman, that said, Republicans will not nominate a female candidate in the next 50 years and if you follow the normal american political cycle, Republicans will probably be in power till 2020/2024 at least

Atheists come next because they although they are a huge minority, they are geographically spread out and Humanism seems to have a growing voice in american culture and politics.

Homosexual comes far last for three reasons.
1. The vocal gay public in america is limited to a couple of urban areas, even with 100% of these areas supporting a gay candidate he would not win
2. Unlike atheism/humanism or feminism gay rights movements seem to have a shrinking representation in American culture. Think how many films/tv shows) have had a "strong female lead"(or at least a stab at one) in the last twenty years. Now think of ALL the compelling gay protagonists...I can think of...two that gained huge success: Philadelphia and Milk. Both were commentaries on homophobia not stories that happened to have gay protagonists.
3. Homosexualilty is more polarising than feminism or atheism, especially among the young, and the 18-25 are an incredibly important demographic in elections (they are easy to motivate emotionally, they are less likely to be set in their ways politically). The image of american young men, especially from outside america (jump on this point if you want), is consisatantly homophobic, even violently so (Brandon McInerny, consistant anti-gay marriage movements, rick perry, rick santorum).
 

michael87cn

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It doesn't matter, they are all tyrants that lie to the people. (leaders)

And we need to stop categorizing people like someone on the first page said. all kinds of ism's are bad, all kind of hatred is bad... obviously...

/sigh, it will never happen. People will always have fear so they will always point at others and say "you look different, I hate you"
 
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There won't be a homosexual (GLBT) president. Nor an openly, and unambiguously, atheist one. In America. Within our lifetime.

So long as ignorance and bigotry remain easier to acquire, than knowledge and education.
 

Frostbyte666

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I agree with an earlier poster about how it isn't an accomplishment if you have to rave about it. Like with Obama being black etc. etc. the truth is it shouldn't matter in the 1st place compared to 1 critical question. Can they do the job? I always remember a friend of mine saying "Whoa there's a black president in America now." My response was "And whats your point? he's black big deal." So there you have it when asked how long till an atheist/female/homosexual president comes about the answer should be that it shouldn't be an issue in the 1st place and can that person do the job after all we've got enough 'approved' politicians who are absolutely useless anyway.
 

jezcentral

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I don't think that the US will have too much of a problem with a female president, so 10-15 years?

Atheist and/or Homosexual will be a long way off, because they both have the same problem, the religious voting bloc. I could see a religious, homosexual president getting in before an atheist president.

You are more likely to not-vote for someone, because you don't like something about them, than vote for them because you like them, which is why politicians are so hard to tie-down when you ask them their view on something. Being someone as easy to label as atheist or gay can put off more people than it attracts. (Sorry if that isn't clear).

@Frostbyte666
It shouldn't be an accomplishment to have a black president, but unfortunately it is. I see no similar political up-and-comer here in the UK.
 

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Suicidejim said:
In America? Maybe a little longer than some other countries, no offence meant. I don't think a female President would actually be much of a stretch, I can see that happening pretty soon actually. We might have to wait a few generations for an openly atheist President though, given the way religion has become deeply political in the US (just look at the supposed 'War on Religion' happening at the moment). I don't know how homosexuality compares to atheism in terms of acceptance in the US, but I don't see that one happening too soon either.

Still, why set the targets so low? Let's try and get us a polygamous family in the White House. Or a President that practices Wicca. Or Satanism.

Hell, let's get us a gamer President. Replace wars with COD death matches. Iran threatening to acquire nuclear weapons? My killstreak helicopter says otherwise.
I hope you're kidding about trying to get oddjobs for presidents. The voters should vote for the person with similar political views as the voter, right?

OT: I guess you're talking about USA, since no other country in the world really matters.
Since I don't live in the country, I don't really know for sure, but if I would base my thoughts of what I know of the US, then I would like to say that a woman for president could happen really soon actually, but atheist and homosexual? An atheist president will most likely get elected in like 30 years, a homosexual president will most likely be elected in 50 years, based on what I know.
 

Navvan

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Female: Yes I think there will be a female president within the next ~60 years.
Atheist: Not likely, but possible depending on how views shift over the years.
Homosexual: Again, not likely at the moment but possible if views shifts.

Currently Atheism has more ground to cover than the other two groups. Both females and homosexuals have/do openly serve as members of congress. This is something that is a good indicator of general electability. However nobody has ever been elected to congress who was openly atheist or agnostic at the time. Only one person (that I know of) has admitted to being atheist after their term. This is despite somewhere around ~20% of the population being non-religious and ~3% being atheists.
 

Bloodtrozorx

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Devil said:
1) A female president
2) An Atheist president
3) A homosexual president
4) An independent (non-Republican or Democratic) president
Sadly I can't say that I believe we will elect a Woman, an Atheist or a Homosexual in my lifetime. America is just too dug in on both sides of the aisle and its highly unlikely either party will offer such a candidate unless they are a sacrifice to a powerful incumbent. As for Independent, well we couldn't get Teddy and the Bull Moose Party elected and if Teddy can't do it.....
 
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Can't get my head around the animosity towards atheists in the US? Anyone able to explain it to me? I mean in the UK we sort of keep up this pretence of being Christian, but very few people are practicing Christians; and religion is firmly kept out of politics - politicians are reluctant to specify how religious they are and to what denomination etc. even the Prime Minister.
 

ShindoL Shill

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1) A female president- I doubt it will be that long, given that Hilary Clinton came close to running for the Democrats
2) An Atheist president- I don't really think religion is that much of an issue in politics (then again, I'm not American), so, just like with women, we just need one to run. We'll probably see an atheist, or at least non-Christian, president in this lifetime.
3) A homosexual president- from what I've heard about America and gay people, it doesn't look good (then again, you never hear news like 'American Man Doesn't Abuse Gays'). It's still a possibility, but very slim.
4) An independent (non-Republican or Democratic) president- I thought those were the only two parties. How can you be independent?
 

krellen

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Et3rnalLegend64 said:
Well, the U.S. is supposed to be built on Christian ideals.
Citation needed.

There is nothing Christian about the founding principles of the US. The only indication of religiosity is the single mention of a "Creator" in the Declaration, and a Creator need not even be a divine being, let alone the Christian God.

If you believe the US is a "Christian nation" built on "Christian ideals", you've been sold a bill of goods.
 
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Regnes said:
Hell, Margaret Thatcher is often considered one of the greatest prime ministers ever.
Only by people who didn't live under her.

By all accounts she was a vile toxin on this country that shattered public services to build her own powerbase.

How about we get a President that can take America out of the nosediving inflation first and then we'll try and find a Honest president before we get out the other ticklists.
 

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Jegsimmons said:
nah, he'd just have to play his cards right, its totally possible, conservatives dont hate atheist....just the dawkinologist.
Atheists are one of the most hated groups in the country. Conservatives pretty much do hate them, and especially the Republican base. You think the same party that has leader trying to put prayer into schools and ban gays "because GOD" and don't think we can trust atheists and muslims are going to vet an atheist for a potential run?

Come now.

And please don't pull a "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
 

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Frostbyte666 said:
I agree with an earlier poster about how it isn't an accomplishment if you have to rave about it. Like with Obama being black etc. etc. the truth is it shouldn't matter in the 1st place compared to 1 critical question. Can they do the job? I always remember a friend of mine saying "Whoa there's a black president in America now." My response was "And whats your point? he's black big deal." So there you have it when asked how long till an atheist/female/homosexual president comes about the answer should be that it shouldn't be an issue in the 1st place and can that person do the job after all we've got enough 'approved' politicians who are absolutely useless anyway.
That's exactly what I was thinking during this entire thread. Does it really matter?
 

varulfic

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Female, probably, whenever a female candidate that doesn't suck comes along. Homosexual, maybe someday, not for quite some time though. Atheist... not in my lifetime.