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bad rider

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electric discordian said:
bad rider said:
Gandalf is not a wizard, the only point at which he uses magic (in the films)is when he is taking on another "wizard" the only point he uses magic is against another "wizard" who dosen't use any magic apart from that one time with gandalf.
And the time he defeats the Balrog, causes the sun to dazzle to orcs as he rides down the hill at the head of the cavalry, summons giant eagles, comes back from the dead and calls for a magical horse.

And the fireworks are technically magic as no one has black powder up until the point its used in Helmsdeep? Correct me on that if Im wrong.

And I second Harry Dresden the wizards wizard!
Firstly he defeated the balrog with a sword and a staff not magic (the bridge likely collapsed from the weight of the balrog)
Secondly he came in the morning the sun was rising how is that magic?
Thirdly he talked to moth's an impressive ability not necessarily magical.
Fourthly I didn't see him die all he did is change clothes, and what made the horse magic?
 

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bad rider said:
electric discordian said:
bad rider said:
Gandalf is not a wizard, the only point at which he uses magic (in the films)is when he is taking on another "wizard" the only point he uses magic is against another "wizard" who dosen't use any magic apart from that one time with gandalf.
And the time he defeats the Balrog, causes the sun to dazzle to orcs as he rides down the hill at the head of the cavalry, summons giant eagles, comes back from the dead and calls for a magical horse.

And the fireworks are technically magic as no one has black powder up until the point its used in Helmsdeep? Correct me on that if Im wrong.

And I second Harry Dresden the wizards wizard!
Firstly he defeated the balrog with a sword and a staff not magic (the bridge likely collapsed from the weight of the balrog)
Secondly he came in the morning the sun was rising how is that magic?
Thirdly he talked to moth's an impressive ability not necessarily magical.
Fourthly I didn't see him die all he did is change clothes, and what made the horse magic?
1. Oh please, he used a magic.

2. I think it was raining before. So the sky was clouded. Not a coincidence.

3. I wouldn't call talking to animals a non-magical ability.

4. He himself said that he died. And it wasn't a pretty way of "I changed my clothes".
 

Klagermeister

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The best wizard ever would have to be Geno from Super Mario RPG.
A possessed doll who shoots his fists out of his arms like rockets?
What could get more badass!?
 

the captain

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You guys are all wrong, the greatest wizard every is Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore.

I've heard that his wand is so powerful that it can bring any man to his knees.
 

sirdanrhodes

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Abedeus said:
sirdanrhodes said:
Screw wizards, what about my fellow undead?
Turn Undead.

*whoosh*

Or simply... Heal. And then a kick in the groin should finish an enemy off.

If not, Death to the Undead.
How can you kill what is already dead... idiot. Movies have it all wrong, we can't be killed by any common items like bullets or cheese.
 

The Shade

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Man, Gandalf the White would mess up all these other tools, once he got going.
Probably due to his divine origins, but whatever.

Does Tom Bombadil count as a wizard? Cuz if so, HE would fuck up anyone in a fight. (Not that he fights per se. He just sings people away...)

And, um....Bigby. And his giant hands.

Yeah.
 

Abedeus

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sirdanrhodes said:
Abedeus said:
sirdanrhodes said:
Screw wizards, what about my fellow undead?
Turn Undead.

*whoosh*

Or simply... Heal. And then a kick in the groin should finish an enemy off.

If not, Death to the Undead.
How can you kill what is already dead... idiot. Movies have it all wrong, we can't be killed by any common items like bullets or cheese.
That's why I mentioned some DnD skills/spells. None of them are damage spells... Except against the undead.
 

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*Spoilers for anyone who's going to read The Belgariad series (pretty small one that you won't even remember) and the Riftwar saga (okay these spoilers are pretty serious)*

I'm going to have to go with either Belgarath, Pug or Macros the Black as my favourite wizards. Belgarath when he's got the blood pumping is pretty bad ass (e.g. putting someone eternally into rock so that they can still think but never escape <---hardcore) and he's a complete lecher and debaucher when it's not go time which adds to his charm. Magician is my favourite book of all time so i'm going to have to put Pug and Macros the Black as my tied number 1. Planning out exactly what's going to happen so that two boys will become the next disciple of the god of magic and the other inherit the powers of the most powerful beings under gods by befriending dragons and making sure that one would get captured in a future war and get transported to a different planet, not mentioning all the other myriad of things he had his hands in, makes Macros the Black badass. Anyone just needs to read the arena scene from the Magician to know why Pug is extreme. Stuff that shapes reality but isn't actually there......awesome.

End fanboy transmission.
 

bad rider

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Abedeus said:
bad rider said:
electric discordian said:
bad rider said:
Gandalf is not a wizard, the only point at which he uses magic (in the films)is when he is taking on another "wizard" the only point he uses magic is against another "wizard" who dosen't use any magic apart from that one time with gandalf.
And the time he defeats the Balrog, causes the sun to dazzle to orcs as he rides down the hill at the head of the cavalry, summons giant eagles, comes back from the dead and calls for a magical horse.

And the fireworks are technically magic as no one has black powder up until the point its used in Helmsdeep? Correct me on that if Im wrong.

And I second Harry Dresden the wizards wizard!
Firstly he defeated the balrog with a sword and a staff not magic (the bridge likely collapsed from the weight of the balrog)
Secondly he came in the morning the sun was rising how is that magic?
Thirdly he talked to moth's an impressive ability not necessarily magical.
Fourthly I didn't see him die all he did is change clothes, and what made the horse magic?
1. Oh please, he used a magic.

2. I think it was raining before. So the sky was clouded. Not a coincidence.

3. I wouldn't call talking to animals a non-magical ability.

4. He himself said that he died. And it wasn't a pretty way of "I changed my clothes".
1. Sword + staff, at no point does he use magic except that the staff glows, i have putty that does that

2. Coincidence

3. So doctor dolittle is my choice of wizard for this thread then

4. If it came down to saying you died and came back 10X more badass or "I switched clothes when you weren't looking" what would you say?

Edit: For number 3 i have friend that speaks french and english so is he a wizard?
 

Malkavian

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If we're talking awesome, and if we stick to DnD, I'd say sorcerors are cooler than wizards.
they didn't spend their entire life studying, but have innate talent, and understanding of magic. That's way cooler in my book.
 

ThaBenMan

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There's also Nesna Nethshrac from Mage: The Ascension. Born in the 400's BC, he was the youngest high priest of the Etruscan Empire and a powerful mage and diviner. And then in his 80's, he became the first liche. He was only defeated by a small army of Roman soldiers (all of which he killed) and three powerful Roman magi (one of which he grievously wounded), and they were only able to seal him away until he wakes up in the present day.

And I'm sure there are other badasses from Mage that I just can't think of right now.
 

Alex_P

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Alex_P said:
You know, Donald Duck is also a wizard.
Come to think of it, Mickey Mouse is a wizard, too. Albeit not a very good one.

-- Alex
 

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PurpleRain said:
cleverlymadeup said:
tho i still say the best one is Dr Doom, simply because he always talks in the third person
Was Dr Doom a wizard? I don't know that much about the guy.
yes he was, he fought Dr Strange for the Sorcerer Supreme at one time. Doom's helmet can analyze spells and not only teach him the spell but give him the counter for it

friend was a huge Dr Doom and Dr Strange fan
 

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bad rider said:
Abedeus said:
bad rider said:
electric discordian said:
bad rider said:
Gandalf is not a wizard, the only point at which he uses magic (in the films)is when he is taking on another "wizard" the only point he uses magic is against another "wizard" who dosen't use any magic apart from that one time with gandalf.
And the time he defeats the Balrog, causes the sun to dazzle to orcs as he rides down the hill at the head of the cavalry, summons giant eagles, comes back from the dead and calls for a magical horse.

And the fireworks are technically magic as no one has black powder up until the point its used in Helmsdeep? Correct me on that if Im wrong.

And I second Harry Dresden the wizards wizard!
Firstly he defeated the balrog with a sword and a staff not magic (the bridge likely collapsed from the weight of the balrog)
Secondly he came in the morning the sun was rising how is that magic?
Thirdly he talked to moth's an impressive ability not necessarily magical.
Fourthly I didn't see him die all he did is change clothes, and what made the horse magic?
1. Oh please, he used a magic.

2. I think it was raining before. So the sky was clouded. Not a coincidence.

3. I wouldn't call talking to animals a non-magical ability.

4. He himself said that he died. And it wasn't a pretty way of "I changed my clothes".
1. Sword + staff, at no point does he use magic except that the staff glows, i have putty that does that

2. Coincidence

3. So doctor dolittle is my choice of wizard for this thread then

4. If it came down to saying you died and came back 10X more badass or "I switched clothes when you weren't looking" what would you say?

Edit: For number 3 i have friend that speaks french and english so is he a wizard?
1. Gandalf uses magic lots of times. If you watch the Balrog fight, he creates a magical shield bubble around himself, which the Balrog shatters its sword upon. Gandalf moved the clouds so the moonlight shone on the Moria door. He used the Light of the Istari to drive off the Nazgul Fellbeasts to stop them attacking the retreating Gondorian cavalry. And so on.

2. In The Hobbit, Gandalf actually does make the morning come sooner to defeat a trio of trolls that have captured Bilbo and the Dwarves. As the troll says, "How did the morning come so soon!?!?! *turns to stone*)

3. Talking to animals is a trait passed to him by Radaghast (sp?), a fellow wizard. This is arguably not a magical ability per se, but pretty darn cool.

4. To fully understand what happened to Gandalf once he "died" after the Balrog fight, you have to understand his 'divine' nature. As he said, he was 'sent back' by the powers that control such things. 'course, they gave him a stat boost and said, "Go kick ass." It had to be done since Saruman betrayed the cause.

Not responding to anyone in particular there. Just adding my two cents. [/LotRfanboyism]
 

PurpleRain

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Alex_P said:
Elminster is an annoying fourth-wall-breaking author-insertion Mary Sue who lives almost forever and has sex with the goddess of magic and, like, at least two of her super-hot uber-powerful daughters. He's pretty much the worst thing about the Forgotten Realms.
I'm sorry, I don't get it.

Larenxis said:
It's gotta be Sarda from 8-bit Theatre. He's the wizard that did it!
Recent quote: "By the way, do you know the best thing about magic? Everything."
This is true. I can't see one bad thing about harnessing the powers of the universe in a somewhat awesome fashion. It makes your cape and hair blow back like you mean bussiness.

bad rider said:
Abedeus said:
bad rider said:
electric discordian said:
bad rider said:
Gandalf is not a wizard, the only point at which he uses magic (in the films)is when he is taking on another "wizard" the only point he uses magic is against another "wizard" who dosen't use any magic apart from that one time with gandalf.
And the time he defeats the Balrog, causes the sun to dazzle to orcs as he rides down the hill at the head of the cavalry, summons giant eagles, comes back from the dead and calls for a magical horse.

And the fireworks are technically magic as no one has black powder up until the point its used in Helmsdeep? Correct me on that if Im wrong.

And I second Harry Dresden the wizards wizard!
Firstly he defeated the balrog with a sword and a staff not magic (the bridge likely collapsed from the weight of the balrog)
Secondly he came in the morning the sun was rising how is that magic?
Thirdly he talked to moth's an impressive ability not necessarily magical.
Fourthly I didn't see him die all he did is change clothes, and what made the horse magic?
1. Oh please, he used a magic.

2. I think it was raining before. So the sky was clouded. Not a coincidence.

3. I wouldn't call talking to animals a non-magical ability.

4. He himself said that he died. And it wasn't a pretty way of "I changed my clothes".
1. Sword + staff, at no point does he use magic except that the staff glows, i have putty that does that

2. Coincidence

3. So doctor dolittle is my choice of wizard for this thread then

4. If it came down to saying you died and came back 10X more badass or "I switched clothes when you weren't looking" what would you say?

Edit: For number 3 i have friend that speaks french and english so is he a wizard?
Bah! Gah! Sah! How can you possibly argue the fact that Gandalf's not the best wizard? Or even a wizard for that matter?! Everything he's done is just a strange coincidence then? Like killing a Balrog with magic? Yes goddamn magic! You see that lightning come from the sky?! It struck his sword, overpowering the damn thing! Not even the Fellowship (who are better fighters) could have defeated the Balrog. Remember, 'swords are of no use here!' Anyway, what of that time he turn the three orges to stone in The Hobbit?! He is a wizard! He is never late, nor is he early. He arrives preceisly when he means to goddamnit!

I will not tolerate Gandalf bashing on my Escapist!

And yes, I do need a life.
 

zen5887

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PurpleRain said:
Bah! Gah! Sah! How can you possibly argue the fact that Gandalf's not the best wizard? Or even a wizard for that matter?! Everything he's done is just a strange coincidence then? Like killing a Balrog with magic? Yes goddamn magic! You see that lightning come from the sky?! It struck his sword, overpowering the damn thing! Not even the Fellowship (who are better fighters) could have defeated the Balrog. Remember, 'swords are of no use here!' Anyway, what of that time he turn the three orges to stone in The Hobbit?! He is a wizard! He is never late, nor is he early. He arrives preceisly when he means to goddamnit!

I will not tolerate Gandalf bashing on my Escapist!

And yes, I do need a life.
I hear you buddy! Remember when that other guy bagged Gandalf? I heard he still hasn't found his toes.
 

PurpleRain

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zen5887 said:
PurpleRain said:
Bah! Gah! Sah! How can you possibly argue the fact that Gandalf's not the best wizard? Or even a wizard for that matter?! Everything he's done is just a strange coincidence then? Like killing a Balrog with magic? Yes goddamn magic! You see that lightning come from the sky?! It struck his sword, overpowering the damn thing! Not even the Fellowship (who are better fighters) could have defeated the Balrog. Remember, 'swords are of no use here!' Anyway, what of that time he turn the three orges to stone in The Hobbit?! He is a wizard! He is never late, nor is he early. He arrives preceisly when he means to goddamnit!

I will not tolerate Gandalf bashing on my Escapist!

And yes, I do need a life.
I hear you buddy! Remember when that other guy bagged Gandalf? I heard he still hasn't found his toes.
I think I had one stuck behinf my ear for a week until someone pointed it out. I should shower more. Point is, Gandalf is an awesome Nazgul-fighting, ork-killing, fellbeast-blinding, firework-happy, bad-arse, mo-fo from hell!
 

Lyiat

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Negima would be an ok candidate. One of the few anime I actually like.