bad rider said:
Abedeus said:
bad rider said:
electric discordian said:
bad rider said:
Gandalf is not a wizard, the only point at which he uses magic (in the films)is when he is taking on another "wizard" the only point he uses magic is against another "wizard" who dosen't use any magic apart from that one time with gandalf.
And the time he defeats the Balrog, causes the sun to dazzle to orcs as he rides down the hill at the head of the cavalry, summons giant eagles, comes back from the dead and calls for a magical horse.
And the fireworks are technically magic as no one has black powder up until the point its used in Helmsdeep? Correct me on that if Im wrong.
And I second Harry Dresden the wizards wizard!
Firstly he defeated the balrog with a sword and a staff not magic (the bridge likely collapsed from the weight of the balrog)
Secondly he came in the morning the sun was rising how is that magic?
Thirdly he talked to moth's an impressive ability not necessarily magical.
Fourthly I didn't see him die all he did is change clothes, and what made the horse magic?
1. Oh please, he used a magic.
2. I think it was raining before. So the sky was clouded. Not a coincidence.
3. I wouldn't call talking to animals a non-magical ability.
4. He himself said that he died. And it wasn't a pretty way of "I changed my clothes".
1. Sword + staff, at no point does he use magic except that the staff glows, i have putty that does that
2. Coincidence
3. So doctor dolittle is my choice of wizard for this thread then
4. If it came down to saying you died and came back 10X more badass or "I switched clothes when you weren't looking" what would you say?
Edit: For number 3 i have friend that speaks french and english so is he a wizard?
1. Gandalf uses magic lots of times. If you watch the Balrog fight, he creates a magical shield bubble around himself, which the Balrog shatters its sword upon. Gandalf moved the clouds so the moonlight shone on the Moria door. He used the Light of the Istari to drive off the Nazgul Fellbeasts to stop them attacking the retreating Gondorian cavalry. And so on.
2. In The Hobbit, Gandalf actually does make the morning come sooner to defeat a trio of trolls that have captured Bilbo and the Dwarves. As the troll says, "How did the morning come so soon!?!?! *turns to stone*)
3. Talking to animals is a trait passed to him by Radaghast (sp?), a fellow wizard. This is arguably not a magical ability per se, but pretty darn cool.
4. To fully understand what happened to Gandalf once he "died" after the Balrog fight, you have to understand his 'divine' nature. As he said, he was 'sent back' by the powers that control such things. 'course, they gave him a stat boost and said, "Go kick ass." It had to be done since Saruman betrayed the cause.
Not responding to anyone in particular there. Just adding my two cents. [/LotRfanboyism]