Woah woah woah... Bonies?

[Karelwolfpup]

Just watched the "Warm Bodies" review by MovieBob, and something struck me as I listened.
The movie itself? well, yeah, we all know what it is and why it is. But what sort of mentally slapped me "up side da head" was the concept of "Bonies".
Aside from the name being a possible reference to the sort of thing you get on a long ride on a bus or from sitting on a washing machine going at full tilt, I don't understand the concept.

The way I saw a zombie was that when you first turned you were at your most dangerous; you've still got a capable human body just with all the limits turned off and the intelligence reduced to some feral state of primal hunger.
Yet the more it operates without the subconscious checks we put on our body to prevent us from damaging our bodies then the more quickly that body will breakdown. Muscles will tear, the nervous system wear itself out and even bones would break more easily with the constant movement without rest. Especially since zombies don't sleep, right? There's no point at which the body can heal itself naturally, so once a zombie hits that brick wall where its body is beyond repair and even basic operation then its just a husk that can't move.
Yet if this movie has it right, somehow after this point the body wastes away to become this bony killing machine...

How does that work? If the muscles and nervous system, and even bones, are broken... then how the hell can it do anything other than lie where it falls when its body becomes utterly useless?

Then again, I am looking for logic in this, which inevitably is at no point going to be fruitful...

 

[Olas]

Haven't seen the movie and don't particularly want to but it sounds kinda like the fast headcrab zombies from Half-Life 2.

I think the answer to your question is 'movie magic'.

 

[Lizardon]

Then again, I am looking for logic in this, which inevitably is at no point going to be fruitful...

I've also only watched Bob's review, but I think the problem is that you are trying to apply logic and science to a film where zombies are cured by the power of love. When the premise of the movie is "Romantic comedy with Zombies", I'm pretty sure you abandoned logic a long time ago =D

 

[Hagi]

Zombies are a fictional thing.

Every IP's got their own variant and their own 'logic' (none of which are actually logical on account of zombies not existing and all).

The question starts at how do zombies work, which every IP answers differently (or not at all). That answer gives your premise and from that you reason further.

If zombies are seen as some viral infection that takes over the brain then you'd probably be correct in your conclusion. In Warm Bodies however that doesn't seem to be the case (I think?) on account of them being cured by the power of love and all. I'm not sure what the premise is, but my money would be on magic of some kind. Maybe a curse.

 

[lechat]

even if the zombieness is viral you can still make a case that love is somehow raising dopamine levels or heart rate or something and countering the virus.

as for the bony zombie killing machines, maybe the virus has formed a more efficient muscle structure or super charged what is left by cannibalizing the remaining human tissue or whatever human victims the zombie has eaten. maybe the human body is actually that efficient to start with but we are held back mentally or physically by feeling pain and the zombies have bypassed that reflex.

 

[Zhukov]

When I read the thread title I thought "Bonies" was going to be a term for Bronies who look at MLP porn.

I find myself a little disappointed.

Also, the fact that I jumped to that conclusion is probably an indicator that the internet is having an adverse effect on my brain.

 

[Glasgow]

Just watched the "Warm Bodies" review by MovieBob, and something struck me as I listened.
The movie itself? well, yeah, we all know what it is and why it is. But what sort of mentally slapped me "up side da head" was the concept of "Bonies".
Aside from the name being a possible reference to the sort of thing you get on a long ride on a bus or from sitting on a washing machine going at full tilt, I don't understand the concept.

The way I saw a zombie was that when you first turned you were at your most dangerous; you've still got a capable human body just with all the limits turned off and the intelligence reduced to some feral state of primal hunger.
Yet the more it operates without the subconscious checks we put on our body to prevent us from damaging our bodies then the more quickly that body will breakdown. Muscles will tear, the nervous system wear itself out and even bones would break more easily with the constant movement without rest. Especially since zombies don't sleep, right? There's no point at which the body can heal itself naturally, so once a zombie hits that brick wall where its body is beyond repair and even basic operation then its just a husk that can't move.
Yet if this movie has it right, somehow after this point the body wastes away to become this bony killing machine...

How does that work? If the muscles and nervous system, and even bones, are broken... then how the hell can it do anything other than lie where it falls when its body becomes utterly useless?

Then again, I am looking for logic in this, which inevitably is at no point going to be fruitful...

This whole movie was a ripoff from other concepts. It was done before with Vampires on film with the movie called Daybreakers. The difference between the two is that while Daybreakers was oriented towards horror, this movie was a straight romantic comedy with a dash of action at the end.

 

[lechat]

i don't really see the similarity between daybreakers and warm bodies tbh. daybreakers is about as close as you get to a realistic vampire movie and warm bodies is about a bunch of zombies that get cured by the magic of love

 

[Lilani]

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As someone already mentioned, zombies aren't real. There are no set rules for how they work, and one explanation makes just as much sense as the other. Personally I like the idea of having a scrap of your humanity left, fighting the urge to go completely primal. Your theory relies on the body breaking down at a human pace and the humanity being completely gone from step 1. Well, what if it wasn't like that? What if muscular breakdown slows or stops because of zombie-itis? That would make sense, purely from a self-preservation standpoint. And surely something that turns you into the living dead would have a few other unhuman side-effects. What if they do keep a scrap of humanity? Your explanation is just as valid as anyone else's. And just because they didn't choose your explanation doesn't mean they are wrong.

 

[The Funslinger]

When I read the thread title I thought "Bonies" was going to be a term for Bronies who look at MLP porn.

I find myself a little disappointed.

Also, the fact that I jumped to that conclusion is probably an indicator that the internet is probably having an adverse effect on my brain.

I, too misread this thread as 'Woah woah woah... Bronies?'

 

[PhiMed]

Just watched the "Warm Bodies" review by MovieBob, and something struck me as I listened.
The movie itself? well, yeah, we all know what it is and why it is. But what sort of mentally slapped me "up side da head" was the concept of "Bonies".
Aside from the name being a possible reference to the sort of thing you get on a long ride on a bus or from sitting on a washing machine going at full tilt, I don't understand the concept.

The way I saw a zombie was that when you first turned you were at your most dangerous; you've still got a capable human body just with all the limits turned off and the intelligence reduced to some feral state of primal hunger.
Yet the more it operates without the subconscious checks we put on our body to prevent us from damaging our bodies then the more quickly that body will breakdown. Muscles will tear, the nervous system wear itself out and even bones would break more easily with the constant movement without rest. Especially since zombies don't sleep, right? There's no point at which the body can heal itself naturally, so once a zombie hits that brick wall where its body is beyond repair and even basic operation then its just a husk that can't move.
Yet if this movie has it right, somehow after this point the body wastes away to become this bony killing machine...

How does that work? If the muscles and nervous system, and even bones, are broken... then how the hell can it do anything other than lie where it falls when its body becomes utterly useless?

Then again, I am looking for logic in this, which inevitably is at no point going to be fruitful...

Zombies have always been completely scientifically implausible. There's pretty much no version of zombies that makes any sense. You're asking for scientific veracity from your ridiculous fictional monsters now?

 

[Buzz Killington_v1legacy]

headcrab zombies

I'm going off-topic here (I haven't heard much about the movie beyond seeing a couple of trailers for it), but this is the only thing I can think of any time someone says "headcrab zombies":

 

[knight steel]

When I read the thread title I thought "Bonies" was going to be a term for Bronies who look at MLP porn.

I find myself a little disappointed.

Also, the fact that I jumped to that conclusion is probably an indicator that the internet is probably having an adverse effect on my brain.

I had that exact same thought as well.

I think I'm going to take a few days off from the internet, just to stop this from happening.

Me too I mean seriously after all this pony rule 34 stuff

 

[The White Hunter]

When I read the thread title I thought "Bonies" was going to be a term for Bronies who look at MLP porn.

There's already a term for them.

They're called 'cloppers'.

Ninja'd by both you.

Um, idk it's best not to overthink zombies.

Like how I've been wondering about the questionable upper body strength of my character in ZombiU. I'm pretty sure if I were to whack the head of somebody who's been dead for a few weeks and wandering out in the open air the head would just fly straight off.

 

[KhaoticOne]

I think i get where OP is coming at, i mean Zombies are Sci-fi so their origin isnt the problem.

The way Bonies works breaks his suspension of belief (i think?). It does to mine as well in this case.

How he describe the life-span of zombies is also my universal belief on them.