Wolfenstien: The New Colossus first review

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Skin clad elite Nazi chicks are okay but badass pregnant woman isn't.

It's B-Cell. He still hasn't figured out how to compartmentalise his puberty.

Keep that shit in Wild West.

How are you offended by that at all?

Oh so personal attacks are ok now? (all he said was he found the scene cringy, seems like you have a hate-boner for that user spilling from the Wild West).

It's not a frigging personal attack. Stop pretending to suddenly care. I have nothing against B-Cell and never had.

 

[PapaGreg096]

https://streamable.com/ueohc

Terrible. I can't believe that's the same lady from the last game.

this is just so cringe worthy. as a fan of RTCW the real wolfenstein game. i feel really bad. even worse than new order

seriously how can this crap apeal to any one??! I cannot even play this game in a front of anyone.

Also, I don't care about the reason, the jacket being on fire. The reason is only there to justify cheesy nudity. OF COURSE she doesn't wear a bra or shirt beneath. She wouldn't be jumping around like that pregnant anyway. I rather liked her in the last game.

Edit: Looking at it again, I noticed she is wearing a sweater beneath. She has no reason to throw that off too. It would just take longer to lift it over her head. TERRIBLE.
The last game wasn't this desperate. It was bearable.

So it isn't possible that Sweater also caught on fire.

 

[Rip Van Rabbit]

https://streamable.com/ueohc

Terrible. I can't believe that's the same lady from the last game.

It's almost like this is the first time we get to see Anya's true nature. Since it was alluded to in the last game. After all, it was revealed in a diary with the initials "AN" on the cover that she was a Nazi serial killer.

Also, I don't care about the reason, the jacket being on fire. The reason is only there to justify cheesy nudity. OF COURSE she doesn't wear a bra or shirt beneath. She wouldn't be jumping around like that pregnant anyway. I rather liked her in the last game.

Edit: Looking at it again, I noticed she is wearing a sweater beneath. She has no reason to throw that off too. It would just take longer to lift it over her head. TERRIBLE.

The last game wasn't this desperate. It was bearable.

Firstly, in a life or death situation where every second matters, if she found it easier to remove her clothing over her head -- then so be it, humans learn that fire = bad. I think you might be underestimating the effects of adrenaline and human reflex. I don't think she had the luxury of checking her sweater for fire either.

Secondly, you do realize that maternity bras exist to provide support and comfort to sensitive breasts & sometimes painful nipples during pregnancy. Considering these are rebels, I'm going to go out on a whim and say that finding the right bra for the day wasn't a priority. Some women find it easier to just go without a bra during pregnancy.

Should she be sliding across the ground, tossing a grenade and jumping on a loved one to save him? Well, she should probably be laying in bed sipping tea and reading a good book. But I think saving your loved one from being shot/incinerated tends to skew a persons priorities and needs.

Good for her. Being pregnant doesn't make you useless, if anything that clip was indicative of quick-thinking and prowess even in her current state. I would have liked to see her fight in her younger years.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I have checked out some more reviews for this game and if some people are upset by that starting clip, um...stay away. Just...stay far, far, FAR away from this game. There was a scene in the review I was watching the suddenly made me go, "Wait...maybe I don't want to play this after all..." I have decided that I'm still going to, but...if you think this game is just going to be stuff like that in the clip (let's be honest, it is kind of silly over-the-top cringe a little), you are wrong. Very wrong. This might be getting into Spec Ops: The Line territory for making me feel uncomfortable.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Oh good.

Not the breaking of the embargo part, but the review copy part. I really didn't want to boycott this one.

Oh, come on, like reviews are important anyway, they are really nothing more than ads, every game is great!!! Unless you have some guy on Youtube you really like (which may or may not be able to get a review copy anyway depending on their contacts), there's nothing much to gleam from reviews that you can't get from gameplay footage. It was just an stupid move on Bethesda's part to not give out review copies because reviews are just ads and free marketing that they choose not to take advantage of.

They might not be important to you, and that's fine. I'm just not willing to support blatant anti-consumer practices.

I swear to god, if they've put in loot boxes and nobody's saying anything...

What is a review going to tell you that straight hour+ gameplay footage isn't going to tell you?

Review embargos are anti-consumer too, I am almost certain. Didn't people rally against them at one point? Why so meek about it now?

Really? Embargos are pro-consumer. Would you rather have all reviewers have a week or so to fully play the game or all play through the game as fast as possible to get out first reviews? What method do you think will yield for the higher quality and more informative reviews? Gamers are the bitchiest consumer group probably ever.

 

[kilenem]

Besides the bullshit with big publishiers this seems like a great year for gaming.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

The game seems to be pretty big on political undertones, but with the circus vibe they simply don?t end up meaning much of anything. Hopefully for Bethesda?s sake they didn?t plan for them to, because at face value it?s a pretty awful mess. As far as story the game looks to have truly gone off the deep end.

 

[PapaGreg096]

The game seems to be pretty big on political undertones, but with the circus vibe they simply don?t end up meaning much of anything. Hopefully for Bethesda?s sake they didn?t plan for them to, because at face value it?s a pretty awful mess. As far as story the game looks to have truly gone off the deep end.

What political "undertones", give me a spoiler/

I just read the plot on Wikipedia. It's bad.

All I got on wikipedia was this

"Following the events of Wolfenstein: The New Order, the Nazi regime has occupied America following their victory of the Second World War. William "B.J." Blazkowicz (Brian Bloom) and the militant resistance are trying to set up a second American Revolution against the Nazi regime. Frau Engel (Nina Franoszek) is hunting Blazkowicz, known to the Nazis as "Terror-Billy", in order to stop the Resistance.[6]"

 

[The Lunatic]

Appears to be a very short game. People are saying it's within 4-6 hours for the average player. For $60, that's pretty steep.

From what I've seen of clips of the game, it looks like Saints Row meets wolfenstein, but, in a really jarring and dumb way.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Oh good.

Not the breaking of the embargo part, but the review copy part. I really didn't want to boycott this one.

Oh, come on, like reviews are important anyway, they are really nothing more than ads, every game is great!!! Unless you have some guy on Youtube you really like (which may or may not be able to get a review copy anyway depending on their contacts), there's nothing much to gleam from reviews that you can't get from gameplay footage. It was just an stupid move on Bethesda's part to not give out review copies because reviews are just ads and free marketing that they choose not to take advantage of.

They might not be important to you, and that's fine. I'm just not willing to support blatant anti-consumer practices.

I swear to god, if they've put in loot boxes and nobody's saying anything...

What is a review going to tell you that straight hour+ gameplay footage isn't going to tell you?

Late game breaking bug that corrupts your save file. "Clever" narrative twist that obliterates the point of the story.

You know, stuff games in general and Bethesda games in particular are known for.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Review embargos are anti-consumer too, I am almost certain. Didn't people rally against them at one point? Why so meek about it now?

Nah, review embargos are fine in general, so sites aren't rushing reviews to call firsties.

Post-launch review embargos are the spawn of Satan's taint.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

What is a review going to tell you that straight hour+ gameplay footage isn't going to tell you?

Late game breaking bug that corrupts your save file. "Clever" narrative twist that obliterates the point of the story.

You know, stuff games in general and Bethesda games in particular are known for.

Last time and probably only time I had a bug that corrupted saves was the Viewtiful Joe 2 PS2 demo. You can always backup saves periodically. Video game reviewers are even shittier with regards to criticizing story and characters than they are with gameplay. Uncharted 4 won best narrative for example. Games are notorious for bad writing because there's almost no writing talent in the industry, any good writing in a game is just a bonus at this stage in the medium. Lastly, Bethesda games (Elder Scrolls, Fallout) are different than Bethesda published games, Wolfenstein isn't made by Bethesda.

 

[Dalisclock]

Appears to be a very short game. People are saying it's within 4-6 hours for the average player. For $60, that's pretty steep.

From what I've seen of clips of the game, it looks like Saints Row meets wolfenstein, but, in a really jarring and dumb way.

That's on average with a CoD single player game, and I've heard it's more like 10 hours. If it's a fun 5-10 hours, I'm fine with that. Length and Quality are not necessarily related.

 

[Arnoxthe1]

It?s too bad the Tech 5 engine was so horribly implemented I couldn?t finish it. Got to a point where it just stopped loading. Go Megatextures. Although I think that was before I doubled my RAM so maybe I?ll reinstall to see if anything changed.

Actually, I think TNO was thankfully the last game to use idTech 5. Doom 4 went on to the first iteration of idTech 6 which is much better.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

What is a review going to tell you that straight hour+ gameplay footage isn't going to tell you?

Late game breaking bug that corrupts your save file. "Clever" narrative twist that obliterates the point of the story.

You know, stuff games in general and Bethesda games in particular are known for.

Last time and probably only time I had a bug that corrupted saves was the Viewtiful Joe 2 PS2 demo. You can always backup saves periodically. Video game reviewers are even shittier with regards to criticizing story and characters than they are with gameplay. Uncharted 4 won best narrative for example. Games are notorious for bad writing because there's almost no writing talent in the industry, any good writing in a game is just a bonus at this stage in the medium. Lastly, Bethesda games (Elder Scrolls, Fallout) are different than Bethesda published games, Wolfenstein isn't made by Bethesda.

Look buddy, I'm not saying they're important for you, I'm saying it's important to me, and those are things you're not learning from an hour of streamed gameplays, even if they aren't pulling a Shadow of Mordor. This is an industry where a re-re-re-released game's patch notes can include the phrase "made it possible to complete the game". I'm not supporting that, and I don't particularly care if you do.

And you're right, writing in games tends to be poor, and gamers talking about the story in games tends to be worse. But that's fine. I can accept that. And considering I've yet to see the phrase "Wolf2 makes you consider that maybe the Nazis had a point", I'm thinking the story is going to be fine.

In conclusion, unless your game is an MMO or otherwise relies on high online population numbers, you either release copies into the wild with enough time for people to form opinions about it before launch (and time for any sort of Shadow of Mordor fuckery to get revealed), and you let those reviews and impressions go live before the game's release, or you don't get my money. This isn't a Bethesda only thing, they are just the timely example.