This story's thread is a great example of how judgmental people are, especially when given a sensationalist headline and barely any details.
Yes, it's called the Archimedes calendar. Jesus, I have to explain everything.shticks said:I've never understood how the year determines what should and should not happen.no oneder said:No, this can't be happening! It's 2010, this shouldn't happen anymore!
Is there a calendar somewhere that has a date that outlines when all of the sick shit in the world will be eradicated? Can someone please direct me toward it?
That's because they were strangers to you. In this case it would have developed from what was essentially a stranger-stranger relationship to a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. That's not to say that it isn't weird to have a relationship with someone who you're related to though...Donnyp said:even then i have met relatives for the first time not many years ago. Having never met them i still couldn't bring myself to anything more then a hug or kiss on the cheek.Tharwen said:Because most people grow up with them and think of them as relatives (meaning that we're naturally put off by the idea of a relationship with them). This woman had only seen him as a baby and would have subconsciously thought of him as a different person.Donnyp said:How? How does someone find their siblings or kin sexual attractive. Seriously something is fucked up with her.
Yes, if everyone did it we'd be in trouble, but that's the same trouble we'd be in if everyone was gay (no new babies), and that's not illegal. Even then, it would take generations of children to see any wide spread consequences. Inbreeding doesn't cause genetic defects or anything, it just isolates the genetic hierarchy, making it hard to breed "bad" things out. Inbreeding wouldn't cause nearly as much damage as people think it would; or, more precisely, as much as they feel it would.dashiz94 said:Scat porn doesn't negatively impact a society. Incest does by potentially fucking up the gene pool. It's just not healthy, that's the real sub conscious reason for having this law. And to be honest I don't want to see societies that openly accept incest, that's just asking for a free ride down amoral society boulevardsummerof2010 said:So does scat porn. And Twilight. Subjective interpretations are not grounds for prohibitive legislation.dashiz94 said:Welcome to a moral driven society. I understand your point, and support it in principle, but the act just seems far too, well, sick to consider ever doing or watching.summerof2010 said:Alright, I'm just going to put this out there: I don't think incest is gross. I'm still a little dubious about this kind of pedophilia (or hebephilia or whatever that guy was saying) as well.Novania said:AWW HELL NAH!!!summerof2010 said:I'm astonished that no one has made a reference to the "poke" feature on Facebook. In 5 pages.
That makes it even worse....but he would have had to start it between them for that to.....to....oh god....
And to all the people who said how hot she was.....*vomits*
I mean, I would think that people have a natural revulsion to incest because of genetics. From an evolutionary standpoint, it would make sense that species that abstained from inbreeding had a higher survival rate (boosts immunity, and otherwise proliferates beneficial genetic traits), but with the modern, rational man at the top of the food chain (not to mention over-population) do we really need to worry about that? Most sex is completely recreational anyway, so the heredity thing doesn't even matter. I'm just saying I don't see what's wrong with it.
As for the pedo thing -- look, all I know is that when I was his age, I was day-dreaming about putting it between my (admittedly much younger than the woman in the OP) technology teacher's legs. Isn't the age of consent in Canada only 14 anyway? That's just north of mainland America. Yeah, they are French, but it's not like they're barbarians. Why does it freak us (well, the US, at least) out so much?
What's the harm here again? I mean, besides giving the prosecution the willies?
I don't think it is. If by "danger" you mean that the baby will have a similar genetic code to his parents, then yeah, sure it's bad. Inbreeding doesn't cause genetic defects, it just allows "bad" alleles to gain dominance in new offspring. If those "bad" things don't exist, the baby will be fine. It would take genetic mutation to spontaneously give a child some kind of crazy defect out of the blue. That does actually happen, but being inbred shouldn't increase the likelihood.Sewblon said:It wasn't planned, so it was likely that they didn't use a condemn, so in this case inbreeding is still a danger.summerof2010 said:Alright, I'm just going to put this out there: I don't think incest is gross. I'm still a little dubious about this kind of pedophilia (or hebephilia or whatever that guy was saying) as well.Novania said:AWW HELL NAH!!!summerof2010 said:I'm astonished that no one has made a reference to the "poke" feature on Facebook. In 5 pages.
That makes it even worse....but he would have had to start it between them for that to.....to....oh god....
And to all the people who said how hot she was.....*vomits*
I mean, I would think that people have a natural revulsion to incest because of genetics. From an evolutionary standpoint, it would make sense that species that abstained from inbreeding had a higher survival rate (boosts immunity, and otherwise proliferates beneficial genetic traits), but with the modern, rational man at the top of the food chain (not to mention over-population) do we really need to worry about that? Most sex is completely recreational anyway, so the heredity thing doesn't even matter. I'm just saying I don't see what's wrong with it.
As for the pedo thing -- look, all I know is that when I was his age, I was day-dreaming about putting it between my (admittedly much younger than the woman in the OP) technology teacher's legs. Isn't the age of consent in Canada only 14 anyway? That's just north of mainland America. Yeah, they are French, but it's not like they're barbarians. Why does it freak us (well, the US, at least) out so much?
What's the harm here again? I mean, besides giving the prosecution the willies?
Well thanks for clarifying, but in the long run inbreeding is still a danger so I think taking steps and implementing laws to minimize the possibility of this sort of thing happening is good in the long term.summerof2010 said:I don't think it is. If by "danger" you mean that the baby will have a similar genetic code to his parents, then yeah, sure it's bad. Inbreeding doesn't cause genetic defects, it just allows "bad" alleles to gain dominance in new offspring. If those "bad" things don't exist, the baby will be fine. It would take genetic mutation to spontaneously give a child some kind of crazy defect out of the blue. That does actually happen, but being inbred shouldn't increase the likelihood.Sewblon said:It wasn't planned, so it was likely that they didn't use a condemn, so in this case inbreeding is still a danger.summerof2010 said:Alright, I'm just going to put this out there: I don't think incest is gross. I'm still a little dubious about this kind of pedophilia (or hebephilia or whatever that guy was saying) as well.Novania said:AWW HELL NAH!!!summerof2010 said:I'm astonished that no one has made a reference to the "poke" feature on Facebook. In 5 pages.
That makes it even worse....but he would have had to start it between them for that to.....to....oh god....
And to all the people who said how hot she was.....*vomits*
I mean, I would think that people have a natural revulsion to incest because of genetics. From an evolutionary standpoint, it would make sense that species that abstained from inbreeding had a higher survival rate (boosts immunity, and otherwise proliferates beneficial genetic traits), but with the modern, rational man at the top of the food chain (not to mention over-population) do we really need to worry about that? Most sex is completely recreational anyway, so the heredity thing doesn't even matter. I'm just saying I don't see what's wrong with it.
As for the pedo thing -- look, all I know is that when I was his age, I was day-dreaming about putting it between my (admittedly much younger than the woman in the OP) technology teacher's legs. Isn't the age of consent in Canada only 14 anyway? That's just north of mainland America. Yeah, they are French, but it's not like they're barbarians. Why does it freak us (well, the US, at least) out so much?
What's the harm here again? I mean, besides giving the prosecution the willies?
Yeah, she did, but she wasn't expecting to have sex with himDonnyp said:She also looked him up online.....Thats the fucked up part. Like she KNEW the entire time they were related.Tharwen said:That's because they were strangers to you. In this case it would have developed from what was essentially a stranger-stranger relationship to a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. That's not to say that it isn't weird to have a relationship with someone who you're related to though...Donnyp said:even then i have met relatives for the first time not many years ago. Having never met them i still couldn't bring myself to anything more then a hug or kiss on the cheek.Tharwen said:Because most people grow up with them and think of them as relatives (meaning that we're naturally put off by the idea of a relationship with them). This woman had only seen him as a baby and would have subconsciously thought of him as a different person.Donnyp said:How? How does someone find their siblings or kin sexual attractive. Seriously something is fucked up with her.
also when they renevated the aquaduct they reaplaced some of the piping with lead heavy materials, so that didnt help eitherColdStorage said:Wow, thanks for that Major, I didn't know. What an utterly mad bastard he was!, I think its to do with lead poisoning from his hedonistic lifestyle, at that time the Romans were going through so much wine they had to "cook" it in lead pots to mature it quicker.major28 said:nero also demanded a whole city not recieve food for a year... and they didntColdStorage said:Nero Killed his father to marry his mother, thats not Greek, thats Roman.Sir Kemper said:Excuse me a moment while I say: EW EW EW EW EW EW!
Didn't this shit stop happening back during roman times? Next thing we'll hear is that the boy gouged his eye's out.
Now, let's see who get's THAT reference.
EDIT: All my cookies are gone, also, yes, I'm aware it's Greek, but I figured putting Greek would be a dead give away.
Don't listen to all the haters, you were right with the Roman angle.
Edit, Nero then killed his mother, because he was a bit mad.
ohhh!, see I didn't know that either, I knew about the lead poisoning from boiling their wines but I hadn't heard of the aquaduct heavy metal shit!.major28 said:also when they renevated the aquaduct they reaplaced some of the piping with lead heavy materials, so that didnt help eitherColdStorage said:Wow, thanks for that Major, I didn't know. What an utterly mad bastard he was!, I think its to do with lead poisoning from his hedonistic lifestyle, at that time the Romans were going through so much wine they had to "cook" it in lead pots to mature it quicker.major28 said:nero also demanded a whole city not recieve food for a year... and they didntColdStorage said:Nero Killed his father to marry his mother, thats not Greek, thats Roman.Sir Kemper said:Excuse me a moment while I say: EW EW EW EW EW EW!
Didn't this shit stop happening back during roman times? Next thing we'll hear is that the boy gouged his eye's out.
Now, let's see who get's THAT reference.
EDIT: All my cookies are gone, also, yes, I'm aware it's Greek, but I figured putting Greek would be a dead give away.
Don't listen to all the haters, you were right with the Roman angle.
Edit, Nero then killed his mother, because he was a bit mad.
I was not aware of the age of the boy when I wrote that.StBishop said:I find it difficult to understand your opinion.Dyme said:Well they had no real mother-child relationship, so it is less creepy. And as long as they don't get children, they can do whatever they want in my opinion.
/edit: Oh he is 14 years old. So maybe they should have waited. :S
Did you read the article? She looked him up knowing she was his mother.Dyme said:I was not aware of the age of the boy when I wrote that.StBishop said:I find it difficult to understand your opinion.Dyme said:Well they had no real mother-child relationship, so it is less creepy. And as long as they don't get children, they can do whatever they want in my opinion.
/edit: Oh he is 14 years old. So maybe they should have waited. :S
Other than that, there are two reasons to find this situation creepy.
1. Mother-Son relationship.
2. Genetic problems, of course we know that incest is bad, and diseases can occure much more often this way.
1. If mother and son don't have a mother-child relationship and meet as adults, it is a very different situation. They are just two people meeting then.
2. As long as they don't get children, there is no problem.
Other than that I can't think of any other rational reasons to not tolerate it.
Considering the boy was underage, he of course needs "protection", by state and law.
lol i like you want to be best friends?ColdStorage said:ohhh!, see I didn't know that either, I knew about the lead poisoning from boiling their wines but I hadn't heard of the aquaduct heavy metal shit!.major28 said:also when they renevated the aquaduct they reaplaced some of the piping with lead heavy materials, so that didnt help eitherColdStorage said:Wow, thanks for that Major, I didn't know. What an utterly mad bastard he was!, I think its to do with lead poisoning from his hedonistic lifestyle, at that time the Romans were going through so much wine they had to "cook" it in lead pots to mature it quicker.major28 said:nero also demanded a whole city not recieve food for a year... and they didntColdStorage said:Nero Killed his father to marry his mother, thats not Greek, thats Roman.Sir Kemper said:Excuse me a moment while I say: EW EW EW EW EW EW!
Didn't this shit stop happening back during roman times? Next thing we'll hear is that the boy gouged his eye's out.
Now, let's see who get's THAT reference.
EDIT: All my cookies are gone, also, yes, I'm aware it's Greek, but I figured putting Greek would be a dead give away.
Don't listen to all the haters, you were right with the Roman angle.
Edit, Nero then killed his mother, because he was a bit mad.
What sort of heavy metal? lithium? (no that would be inadequate)
Your a fascinating creature you know that Major?, When I'm king of the world I'll appoint you as "not make me a mad bastard" esquire, and surely you see the irony in an egoist on the internet telling you that he will one day be King of the world and claim you as his squire while completely sane and you'll blindly follow his orders while bitching about how mad some Roman emperor was.
Not that I have disillusions of grandeur or anything.
SQUEEEE!major28 said:lol i like you want to be best friends?ColdStorage said:ohhh!, see I didn't know that either, I knew about the lead poisoning from boiling their wines but I hadn't heard of the aquaduct heavy metal shit!.major28 said:also when they renevated the aquaduct they reaplaced some of the piping with lead heavy materials, so that didnt help eitherColdStorage said:Wow, thanks for that Major, I didn't know. What an utterly mad bastard he was!, I think its to do with lead poisoning from his hedonistic lifestyle, at that time the Romans were going through so much wine they had to "cook" it in lead pots to mature it quicker.major28 said:nero also demanded a whole city not recieve food for a year... and they didntColdStorage said:Nero Killed his father to marry his mother, thats not Greek, thats Roman.Sir Kemper said:Excuse me a moment while I say: EW EW EW EW EW EW!
Didn't this shit stop happening back during roman times? Next thing we'll hear is that the boy gouged his eye's out.
Now, let's see who get's THAT reference.
EDIT: All my cookies are gone, also, yes, I'm aware it's Greek, but I figured putting Greek would be a dead give away.
Don't listen to all the haters, you were right with the Roman angle.
Edit, Nero then killed his mother, because he was a bit mad.
What sort of heavy metal? lithium? (no that would be inadequate)
Your a fascinating creature you know that Major?, When I'm king of the world I'll appoint you as "not make me a mad bastard" esquire, and surely you see the irony in an egoist on the internet telling you that he will one day be King of the world and claim you as his squire while completely sane and you'll blindly follow his orders while bitching about how mad some Roman emperor was.
Not that I have disillusions of grandeur or anything.
omg totally this is gonna be so fun!!!ColdStorage said:SQUEEEE!major28 said:lol i like you want to be best friends?ColdStorage said:ohhh!, see I didn't know that either, I knew about the lead poisoning from boiling their wines but I hadn't heard of the aquaduct heavy metal shit!.major28 said:also when they renevated the aquaduct they reaplaced some of the piping with lead heavy materials, so that didnt help eitherColdStorage said:Wow, thanks for that Major, I didn't know. What an utterly mad bastard he was!, I think its to do with lead poisoning from his hedonistic lifestyle, at that time the Romans were going through so much wine they had to "cook" it in lead pots to mature it quicker.major28 said:nero also demanded a whole city not recieve food for a year... and they didntColdStorage said:Nero Killed his father to marry his mother, thats not Greek, thats Roman.Sir Kemper said:Excuse me a moment while I say: EW EW EW EW EW EW!
Didn't this shit stop happening back during roman times? Next thing we'll hear is that the boy gouged his eye's out.
Now, let's see who get's THAT reference.
EDIT: All my cookies are gone, also, yes, I'm aware it's Greek, but I figured putting Greek would be a dead give away.
Don't listen to all the haters, you were right with the Roman angle.
Edit, Nero then killed his mother, because he was a bit mad.
What sort of heavy metal? lithium? (no that would be inadequate)
Your a fascinating creature you know that Major?, When I'm king of the world I'll appoint you as "not make me a mad bastard" esquire, and surely you see the irony in an egoist on the internet telling you that he will one day be King of the world and claim you as his squire while completely sane and you'll blindly follow his orders while bitching about how mad some Roman emperor was.
Not that I have disillusions of grandeur or anything.
Totally!, lets have a slumber party were we try on each others dresses and talk about boys!
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