Women in Dreams

[Paragon Fury]

So, I have a question; would what would you say about someone whose relationships with women in dreams is...a little less than "normal"? Like...they have them and they are often the normal girlfriend/wife relationships, but the manner in which they happen/are acquired is not shall we say "standard"?

Would you say that person has a problem? After all, dreams and such are supposed to reflections of wants/desires/knowledge etc., even if fantastic and weird; so if someone is always skipping or ignoring what would arguably be a pretty important thing would it be that, yeah, they have a problem?

EDIT: Update

Since people asked for details...

Spoiler

Two of the more common ones I have are:

- I help some rich guy in some way (saving his life, his wife's life, stop them from getting robbed etc.). I then get a card in the mail/call inviting me to their offices to receive a "reward". I get there and after small discussion they say that they'd like to give me "something" for helping them the other day and the "woman" is brought out and I'm told that they were "created" (and whatever that implies varies from dream to dream) just for me. They then leave me with my new, er, wife and we either then just leave and it goes from there, sometimes talk there etc. But they're always super happy, perky and really into me.

- The other one is that I'm just some random worker in a company or other business and they decide to give me as a test or I find one of their "products"; women "created" for high-end, rich or powerful clients to be their personal...companions (the dreams also like to imply they make men for their female clients as well, though its far less profitable. Yes, I file reports and accounts in my dreams about boobies and booty. Its strange place, my mind). They're almost slavishly devoted, even if they're supposedly the shy/timid "model".

The most recent one I had I swear was something out of a ScyFy movie. The women on Earth were getting replaced by healthier, hotter, more...uh, devoted versions I'll say? And even people who wouldn't have had a chance with women that attractive were getting lucky, but no one seemed to notice. And then about a decade past and it was noticed that no male babies were being born...and then aliens like male Asari showed up and revealed that they had secretly been replacing the women of Earth with genetically altered and specifically bred versions of another client race in their Empire that could ONLY have female babies of their own race and that if Humans wanted to keep existing and to have male babies born again they have to submit to their Empire, or face extinction - or eradication if we attacked the women they had replaced OUR women with. No one really tried to resist.

And yes the women in all the dreams are all universally really hot and attractive like this;

NSFW

Spoiler

though contrary to what most may be assuming, they aren't/weren't all the super-submissive, slave-y type most would imagine. They couldn't have been told apart from a "normal" woman, except that they were incredibly attractive and they were really into their boyfriends/husbands.

That was embarrassing to type out.

 

[sanquin]

I would say that they're just dreams. I've dreamt some effed up shit in the past, and some amazing shit too. I don't try to make sense of them, I just move on.

 

[Zhukov]

I assume you're asking for a friend.

I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty sure all the perfectly functional, well adjusted people of the world have some fucked up stuff swirling about their subconscious.

A few weeks ago I had a extremely vivid dream in which I killed six guys with a rock and a pocket knife. Then I woke up, thought to myself, "Jesus, that was fucked up", and went about my day without wanting to murder even a single person. I assume that's what everyone does.

Mate, you may well have issues, but not because you had some weird dreams.

 

[DefunctTheory]

While the cause of dreams is something thats still not quite nailed down, one of the explanation's I've heard is that dreaming is sort of a training program. While unconscious and paralyzed, the brain runs through scenarios so you can practice your responses to a variety of stimuli. However, because our brains have evolved to such a complex level, and our experiences are so far removed from the typical 'run from cat, attack bear with rock' situation, dreams have a tendency to go off in random directions, get confused with multiple concepts and situations at once, and just generally befuddle everyone. Of course, that makes the whole process pointless for training purposes.

I, of course, don't know if this is true, but it makes as much sense to me as most other theories on the subject. But yah, don't worry about it. The one thing we can be reasonably certain about is that Freud was, as he was in most things, dead wrong. Your dreams are not desires you have, its mostly just trash.

 

[EternallyBored]

Mate, you may well have issues, but not because you had some weird dreams.

Paragon's issue seems to be seeking validation for everything from internet strangers, seriously, how many threads is he going to create where he basically just talks down about himself and not so subtly hints at other posters to come in and tell him how totally not weird he is.

I'm honestly concerned Paragon is being bullied in real life, or suffering from critically low self esteem, half the time I see his name on the topic page its usually some variation of, "am I weird/fucked up for doing/liking/being attracted to X". X generally being well endowed anime babes.

More on topic, seriously man, dreams aren't really a sign of being weird or fucked up except maybe in extreme circumstances and coupled with other behaviors when not asleep. Also way to be vague, you didn't actually describe your dreams, just your involved with women in weird ways.

Dreams rarely have anything useful to say about us as people, if you are having recurring or common themes in dreams it may mean you are thinking about a particular topic a lot, but your going to have to be more specific than just saying "not standard".

In the end, dreams can sometimes be expressions of events or thoughts we've had while awake, but they are rarely constructed in a way that tells us any useful insights into these thoughts, i.e. they don't make sense. I don't know where you got the idea that dreams are reflections of our desires/wants/etc. sounds like some nonsense from an anime, but no, dreams are rarely straight up reflections of anything, there's a reason no one takes Freudian dream analysis as a serious form of psychotherapy anymore, and even when they did, dreams were generally interpreted by themes rather than specific events that happen within the dream.

 

[Zhukov]

[snip]

Err... yes, that is basically what I was referring to.

However, I don't really consider it my place to publicly speculate about the mental states of other forumites. If nothing else, it's a recipe for unnecessarily hurt feelings and needless conflict.

 

[DementedSheep]

The more you interact with other people the more you realise everyone is fucked up anyway so I wouldn't bother worrying about it.

 

[Something Amyss]

Dreams often reflect a lot of things and there's a reason there's no real conclusion on what dreams specifically mean. Sometimes, our brains are just unwinding.

Otherwise, I really want to know what the dream I had where the Tyrannosaurus Dinozord from MMPR got stuck in screen door meant.

I'm curious, though. How do you "acquire" these women? Do you wander into tall grass and throw things at them? Dark magic? This may seem flippant, but I'm seriously curious.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

Dreams are dreams, sometimes the reflect subconscious desires, sometimes unresolved issues and sometimes just are simply our brain's way of dealing with the chemical trash that builds up in our bodies by way of translating that process while we sleep into images, disjointed and messed up things. I'd say best that unless you're being plagued by similar dreams, it isn't a big deal.
I personally have more fucked up dreams than not and it can be trying at times in life because of how vivid my imagination and thusly my dreams become. I've woken up so many times thinking I had money in my pocket only to realize I'm broke and dreamed the windfall. Frustrating indeed.

 

[Fox12]

You're post is too vague to really make a statement. But I don't think it matters. We've all dreamed some fucked up shit in our lives.

I mean, Julius Caesar dreamed about raping his mother. To my knowledge he was a pretty normal dude with a talent for conquering Gauls. I was dreaming about torture last night. Don't really care to torture, or be tortured. In fact, I'm a humanist. It's just like static, don't worry about it.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Prior the motorcycle accident that seemed to have robbed me of the capacity to remember my dreams, I used to have AMAZING dreams where friends (both men and women) were involved. One of them was wicked, she was the captain of this space shuttle that did one of those geosynchronous satellite deployments ... instead deploying me on a rocket powered motorcycle as I did the Maj. Kong thing through the atmosphere. Slamming into the Earth and exploding into a million fragments of awesome. Reality bites hard.

I also realize the strangeness of a bad motorcycle accident relieving me of awesome motorcycle-related dreams.

I also don't put much stock in dreams. Dreams are dreams, and they happen for a reason -- sure, but I think it's a bit farfetched to find anything useful in them save for psychoanalysis when trying to determine the factors that go into a person's behavioural profile. IF you recognise they are dreams, and you don't think they inform your daily activities, then you're probably lying to yourself if you think they hold some significance.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well there is "normal" -> shit people want you to be doing, and then there is "real" -> shit that people actually do when no one is looking. And by normal standards we are probably suppose to tell you whatever it is you are doing is wrong, perverted and a heinous crime against humanity, you need to comply with the proposed norm! Resistance is futile and all that.

In reality however you need to figure out what your desires are and no they will never actually comply with "normal". How you can fulfil your desires afterwards... well that is the endless moving checkpoint in life, we want all sorts of shit and most of it will never happen and the parts we can attain then become boring.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Last night I dreamed that the house over the road was getting re-roofed. I feel so mundane.

Eh, if it does you can claim to be a psychic, though.

 

[sky14kemea]

As someone who loves reading into the meaning behind dreams, and even has a huge book about dream interpretations... Not all dreams mean anything.

Some dreams are just snippets of thoughts you've had during the day all rearranged in a nonsensical way. Some dreams are just completely made up nonsense...

Using me as an example, I tend to kill a lot of things in my dreams, and tend to get stabbed a lot myself too. Does this mean anything? (Other than that I watch too many fantasy movies) Probably not.

 

[Gorrath]

As a child I suffered tremendous night terrors which would have severe physical effects on me. These, I speculate with some good reasoning, were caused by the living conditions of my youth (I spent a fair amount of time living in poverty stricken areas where violence was bad.) Over time, I learned to cope with the night terrors through training myself to recognize the impossibility of things happening in my dreams and thus enter a lucid dreaming state. I have never had a night terror or nightmare since, because I gain almost immediate and full control over my dream state when confronted with impossible/terrifying situations. These lucid states allow me to enjoy a wide variety of questionable activities. They are mere fantasy, without consequence and quite fun. There's nothing inherently wrong with any fantasy no matter how deplorable the acts would be considered in real life.

 

[happyninja42]

So, I have a question; would what would you say about someone whose relationships with women in dreams is...a little less than "normal"? Like...they have them and they are often the normal girlfriend/wife relationships, but the manner in which they happen/are acquired is not shall we say "standard"?

Would you say that person has a problem? After all, dreams and such are supposed to reflections of wants/desires/knowledge etc., even if fantastic and weird; so if someone is always skipping or ignoring what would arguably be a pretty important thing would it be that, yeah, they have a problem?

Without details it's hard to say if it's abnormal or not. You're intentionally being as vague as possible, and then asking for specific opinions on the slim input provided. So...yeah that's not going to accomplish what you want very well You notice the incredibly vague answers you are getting as evidence of this fact.

Since you seem to be worried about how these relationships are "acquired", I'm assuming you are dreaming of possibly some old school marital systems? Like being sold a wife in some kind of barter, or perhaps some other form of property situation, that was the catalyst for putting the person with you. Maybe this isn't the case, I'm just guessing 'cause again, you didn't provide any real input to work with. But aside from the repetitive answer of "it's only a dream, don't worry about it" you've already received. I would say if the "acquisition" of these relationships is something non-standard, but you are treating them like an equal with compassion and fairness, then I wouldn't really worry about it. I mean you say that the relationships themselves are often "normal girlfriend/wife relationships" then I would guess you treat them fairly. So don't sweat how your brain, in it's internal fanfiction way, justified you hooking up with some random person. I mean if it's completely illogical for you to ever meet say, Taylor Swift, but your brain is like "We are TOTALLY having a fun/sexy Taylor Swift fantasy tonight!" it's going to make up whatever reason it needs to to hook her up with you. At worst your brain is just a cheezy romance writer, who develops very thinly believable plot devices to smoosh the two love interests together.

Now if you are dreaming about having some harem of slave women who are at your beck and call, and you do terrible things to them...well, I'd still say "it's just a fucking dream, don't sweat it too much". If you aren't actually keeping a slave harem, and have no desire to ever do so, just chalk it up to "my brain has weird ass fantasies" and leave it at that.

Seriously, if people in this thread actually posted some of their weirder dreams so you can compare them, I think you'd see that having fucking weird dreams is just part of how your brain works.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

You're post is too vague to really make a statement. But I don't think it matters. We've all dreamed some fucked up shit in our lives.

I mean, Julius Caesar dreamed about raping his mother. To my knowledge he was a pretty normal dude with a talent for conquering Gauls.

Well, not entirely... One small village of indomitable Gauls still holds out against the invaders.

 

[Paragon Fury]

Dreams often reflect a lot of things and there's a reason there's no real conclusion on what dreams specifically mean. Sometimes, our brains are just unwinding.

Otherwise, I really want to know what the dream I had where the Tyrannosaurus Dinozord from MMPR got stuck in screen door meant.

I'm curious, though. How do you "acquire" these women? Do you wander into tall grass and throw things at them? Dark magic? This may seem flippant, but I'm seriously curious.

So, I have a question; would what would you say about someone whose relationships with women in dreams is...a little less than "normal"? Like...they have them and they are often the normal girlfriend/wife relationships, but the manner in which they happen/are acquired is not shall we say "standard"?

Would you say that person has a problem? After all, dreams and such are supposed to reflections of wants/desires/knowledge etc., even if fantastic and weird; so if someone is always skipping or ignoring what would arguably be a pretty important thing would it be that, yeah, they have a problem?

Without details it's hard to say if it's abnormal or not. You're intentionally being as vague as possible, and then asking for specific opinions on the slim input provided. So...yeah that's not going to accomplish what you want very well You notice the incredibly vague answers you are getting as evidence of this fact.

Since you seem to be worried about how these relationships are "acquired", I'm assuming you are dreaming of possibly some old school marital systems? Like being sold a wife in some kind of barter, or perhaps some other form of property situation, that was the catalyst for putting the person with you. Maybe this isn't the case, I'm just guessing 'cause again, you didn't provide any real input to work with. But aside from the repetitive answer of "it's only a dream, don't worry about it" you've already received. I would say if the "acquisition" of these relationships is something non-standard, but you are treating them like an equal with compassion and fairness, then I wouldn't really worry about it. I mean you say that the relationships themselves are often "normal girlfriend/wife relationships" then I would guess you treat them fairly. So don't sweat how your brain, in it's internal fanfiction way, justified you hooking up with some random person. I mean if it's completely illogical for you to ever meet say, Taylor Swift, but your brain is like "We are TOTALLY having a fun/sexy Taylor Swift fantasy tonight!" it's going to make up whatever reason it needs to to hook her up with you. At worst your brain is just a cheezy romance writer, who develops very thinly believable plot devices to smoosh the two love interests together.

Now if you are dreaming about having some harem of slave women who are at your beck and call, and you do terrible things to them...well, I'd still say "it's just a fucking dream, don't sweat it too much". If you aren't actually keeping a slave harem, and have no desire to ever do so, just chalk it up to "my brain has weird ass fantasies" and leave it at that.

Seriously, if people in this thread actually posted some of their weirder dreams so you can compare them, I think you'd see that having fucking weird dreams is just part of how your brain works.

You're post is too vague to really make a statement. But I don't think it matters. We've all dreamed some fucked up shit in our lives.

I mean, Julius Caesar dreamed about raping his mother. To my knowledge he was a pretty normal dude with a talent for conquering Gauls. I was dreaming about torture last night. Don't really care to torture, or be tortured. In fact, I'm a humanist. It's just like static, don't worry about it.

Well, since people asked for details I guess I'll spill on a few of them.

Spoiler

Two of the more common ones I have are:

- I help some rich guy in some way (saving his life, his wife's life, stop them from getting robbed etc.). I then get a card in the mail/call inviting me to their offices to receive a "reward". I get there and after small discussion they say that they'd like to give me "something" for helping them the other day and the "woman" is brought out and I'm told that they were "created" (and whatever that implies varies from dream to dream) just for me. They then leave me with my new, er, wife and we either then just leave and it goes from there, sometimes talk there etc. But they're always super happy, perky and really into me.

- The other one is that I'm just some random worker in a company or other business and they decide to give me as a test or I find one of their "products"; women "created" for high-end, rich or powerful clients to be their personal...companions (the dreams also like to imply they make men for their female clients as well, though its far less profitable. Yes, I file reports and accounts in my dreams about boobies and booty. Its strange place, my mind). They're almost slavishly devoted, even if they're supposedly the shy/timid "model".

The most recent one I had I swear was something out of a ScyFy movie. The women on Earth were getting replaced by healthier, hotter, more...uh, devoted versions I'll say? And even people who wouldn't have had a chance with women that attractive were getting lucky, but no one seemed to notice. And then about a decade past and it was noticed that no male babies were being born...and then aliens like male Asari showed up and revealed that they had secretly been replacing the women of Earth with genetically altered and specifically bred versions of another client race in their Empire that could ONLY have female babies of their own race and that if Humans wanted to keep existing and to have male babies born again they have to submit to their Empire, or face extinction - or eradication if we attacked the women they had replaced OUR women with. No one really tried to resist.

And yes the women in all the dreams are all universally really hot and attractive like this;

NSFW

Spoiler

though contrary to what most may be assuming, they aren't/weren't all the super-submissive, slave-y type most would imagine. They couldn't have been told apart from a "normal" woman, except that they were incredibly attractive and they were really into their boyfriends/husbands.

That was embarrassing to type out.