Women in Frontline Combat?

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Something Amyss

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Zenode said:
In most cases women are not as physically adept as males, war is brutal and that requires pysichal skill that most women just have.
"Most women" aren't in the military to begin with.

You should probably rule less by stereotypes and more by the reality of which women tend to be involved in the military in the first place. Women who are physically adept and capable. "Most cases" do not apply.

Unless I'm completely off the mark and there are no physical requirements to get into the Aussie military.
 

MrJoyless

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I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that men taking commands from women in power, aka bosses etc actually perform more efficiently than taking direction from male bosses....maybe make all the leaders chicks and we will get our wars done with faster...but their uniforms need to be tighter :)

linky : http://www.employerhelp.org/html/female_bosses.htm
 

DTWolfwood

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"If a woman has the physical capability and intellectual capability to do a particular job then I do not believe it should be denied her on the basis of gender," she said.
Ditto. If she can, she should.
 

feauxx

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John Marcone said:
As you already pointed out, they are generally not as strong as males. Men would take more risks to protect them thus putting their own lives on the line.
Plus they would need separate facilities not to mention the prevalence of rape of women in the military.
Basically its just a huge hassle and creates a lot of unnecessary risks just for the sake of appeasing a few chicks egos.

However, if another world war broke out, another draft introduced, then yeah, women had better have their asses on the front line. If my ass is forced into service then theirs had damn well better be too.
so basically what you are saying there is that men cannot stick to their job and will fuss over the female soldiers serving next to them. they will be afraid the women will get hurt and so the men can't do their own job properly because of that. and then you call that a 'hassle'.

but, when a war breaks out and shit get's real those women better be right there at the front line, fighting and dying equal to men. even though they were denied proper training before and wouldn't stand a chance.
 

Baby Tea

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I'll just say my two cents:
If a person if physically and mentally able to perform their required duties on the front lines of war, then I don't care if they are men, women, gay, straight, trangendered, Islamic, atheist, or even paraplegic. If they can perform their duty and are properly trained, then who they are makes little difference to me.

But, then again, soldiers are just people, and bigotry and ignorance can and will get in the way of rational thought and proper action.
 

Jonci

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In the US, soldiers are trained to make sure any soldier that's down or injured is taken care of. It shouldn't be an issue that men would lose morale from a woman taking a hit, because to them it matters that any of their fellow soldiers' lives are on the line. There's no reason that a woman that wants to be a soldier shouldn't join the front lines.
 

ZydrateDealer

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ANYONE, who wants to kill for a living should serve on the front line. Its bollocks that women fighting on the front line will distract men, when a male is injured they do everything they can to remove him from combat. Male soldiers don't get back up and carry on they lie on the floor trying not to think of the pain while another soldier drags them away; it'd be the same with female soldiers and as for the female psyche not being able to deal with all the horror gore and death, well my friends that's just wrong, they're human being which means that they're just as prone to violent acts and adopting a 'fuck it' attitude as men; what ever society may like to believe. Just think of all those times your father left a spider merrily swinging on a web in the corner of the room but your mother killed it to keep the place looking tidy.
 

Dogstile

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Its rather simple. Men and women don't serve together on the front lines as combat affects them more physically and psychologically. Their presence also affects the men.

Its not sexism, its not equal rights, its about forming a working war machine. The army cannot currently figure out a way to put women on the front lines yet, as the cons outweigh the pros. Therefore, it is in their best interest to keep women where they are, working support roles.

If a woman wants to fight, she can hope she can get into a supply detail. I hear those get hit pretty often.
 

Communist partisan

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Zenode said:
Recently Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard recently announced that Women being in frontline combat should be allowed in frontline combat as it is "realistic".

Link to Story [http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/gillard-backs-women-in-combat-20110412-1dc1f.html]

Personally I don't believe that females should serve on the frontline of combat. If a woman is in a combat scenario and gets injured it will more than likely affect the male soldiers psyche differently then if another male soldier was wounded and may cause them to make more rash decisions than they normally would.. In most cases women are not as physically adept as males, war is brutal and that requires physical skill that most women just have. But on the other hand if they can keep up, why not?

The link above says that it would be "symbolic" if the men and women fought together, but i don't believe the enemy will think that way, I believe that they would try and target the women more than men KNOWING that it will damage morale more.

What are your thoughts on women in frontline combat situations?
It's good, and females are proven better in combat than men both tactical and by endurance, only real advantage males have is strength, and everybody can train so it's not any real advantage.
 

Kevlar Eater

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As long as they're able to pass the same requirements as any other soldier, then yes. They should not get any easy rides if frontline infantry is an option, as the enemy will likely be merciless.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
Zenode said:
What are your thoughts on women in frontline combat situations?
Women should be allowed in front line combat.

Our strength no longer matters - we have guns now.

And it has been proven that, given the same training, women are better shots than men. Sorry guys, we are just dexier than you. Like elves with bows.
Its not like you need to have strength to beat some one to death.A gun is heavy you know not to mention all the equipment you have to carry with you and any heavy lifting you might have to do in the field for whatever reason.That said I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be allowed to if meet all the standards that male front-line personnel need t beat.
 

Lord Krunk

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Should we? Why shouldn't we?

We've gotten women's rights this far - it would be a shame not to allow them to fight and die for our country. I'm not saying I want them to, but I think they should have the choice.
 

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Xixikal said:
I say yes. As much as I dislike Gillard, I like her opinion on this.
There really is no reason women shouldn't be on the frontline.

Zenode said:
Personally I don't believe that females should serve on the frontline of combat. If a woman is in a combat scenario and gets injured it will more than likely affect the male soldiers psyche differently then if another male soldier was wounded and may cause them to make more rash decisions than they normally would.. In most cases women are not as physically adept as males, war is brutal and that requires pysichal skill that most women just have.
What you're referring to is called "Nightingale Syndrome", and if soldiers are properly trained it wouldn't be a risk.
Also, you're assuming that ALL females are physically weaker then ALL males. Which is not the case. If a woman is apt and able, why shouldn't she serve?
he said in MOST cases females were not as well physically built as males

but anyway while i support the idea of them being on frontline combat if they want i also understand the argument that guys might make bad decisions if they saw a woman get hurt
 

C2Ultima

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Why shouldn't women fight on the frontlines? If we're aiming for gender equality, then preventing women from fighting on the frontlines is a bit of a step backwards.
 

ace_of_something

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Well, women can be police officers in varying degrees of excellence just like men. The male officers used to be stupid about this bigoted or try to 'protect' them. 30+ years later and rarely will anyone even give it a second thought that they're partner is female. Rarely will anyone question her abilities any more than they would her male counterparts.

Pretty sure they can be soldiers on the front lines too.

edit: just remembered our ERT team (formerly called SWAT) has three lieutenants one of them is a woman she was like I think a colonel or captain in the Army. There are if I'm not mistaken 7 women (Out of 24) on the 3 ERT teams.