World War Z (the movie) just isn't very good

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Johnny Novgorod said:
- You know the big zombie stampede scenes from the trailers? Those are about the most visually impressive takes from the movie. Everything else is poorly lit, poorly cut shaky-cam stock.
Really? Because in the trailers, even those were some of the worst CGI I've seen in years. Can't imagine how much worse things would have to get to somehow lower the bar even more for the film.

Anyway, I guess I'll file this under not at all surprised and skip it.
 

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I haven't seen it, and I don't plan on seeing it, not so much based on the reviews... but I just noticed it's PG-13, what the hell? How do you have a pg-13 zombie movie? They made a PG-13 AVP movie, worst ever, same went for die hard 4- both franchise returned to the R rating after their attempt to bring in disposable teen income bombed.
 

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Vivi22 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
- You know the big zombie stampede scenes from the trailers? Those are about the most visually impressive takes from the movie. Everything else is poorly lit, poorly cut shaky-cam stock.
Really? Because in the trailers, even those were some of the worst CGI I've seen in years. Can't imagine how much worse things would have to get to somehow lower the bar even more for the film.
Impressive or not, that's about as good as it gets. That and the finale, which I may be over-hyping at this point, but at the time it was very much welcome.
 

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It's not surprising, the book was an exercise in building an internally-consistent zombie world and speculating on how a virus could work, how it could take over the world and how humans would react. That stuff doesn't translate well into a movie, it's hard to visualize that in a way without overly compressing it or resorting to long drawn out monologues.
 

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Phrozenflame500 said:
It's not surprising, the book was an exercise in building an internally-consistent zombie world and speculating on how a virus could work, how it could take over the world and how humans would react. That stuff doesn't translate well into a movie, it's hard to visualize that in a way without overly compressing it or resorting to long drawn out monologues.
A lot of people have brought up TV as an apt medium for adapting World War Z, but I expect nobody wants to compete against Walking Dead right now as the "serious zombie show" on telly.
 

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sky14kemea said:
I plan to see it anyway, and I'll probably enjoy it, but it sucks to hear that it's getting a bad reception because it doesn't live up to the book.

I understand how book fans get annoyed at the films, I got a little irritable when watching the Harry Potter films.

The main reason I'm looking forward to War Z is because I've seen pretty much all the good zombie flics I can think of, and I welcome a new one that isn't some B-movie or low budget thing.
While I have not seen the movie I doubt the reception is bad because it does not live up to the book, I am betting the reception is bad because the film is bad.

I have read a lot of things about this movie going through substantial reshoots, script rewrites, etc., and that is never a good sign. Think of it as "development hell", like Duke Nukem Forever went through. Usually when films have these troubled productions they come out as not very strong films.

I loved the book and was really looking forward to the movie. I will still see it but as soon as I read all the troubles it was going through I knew it would probably not turn out too great.
 

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Call me petty, but I'm glad it's not any good.

Nothing bugs me more than when studios buy the rights to an interesting IP and make a movie that is completely different from that IP, but keep the same name. It makes no fucking sense, especially when the name isn't very well known, like with World War Z.
 

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If they wanted to be faithful to the book, the film would have been set up as a documentary.

But no. That wouldn't generate nearly enough money, for Hollywood. We dumb movie sheep. We want big action fighty movie. We pay money now.
 

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Maybe I'm just not reading closely enough to see if anyone else has mentioned this. While I've read the ZSG, haven't read WWZ. Boyfriend wants to go see WWZ, seriously debating saying no. My thought is if you're adapting a book that's realistic and all about interviews in flashback, I agree the TV show might be best.

But no one has mentioned a "Band of Brothers" type of adaptation for this book. From what I've read here, that would have been the perfect thing to go for.

I mean, that was also a book based off of interviews (war veterans' recollections and some historical data if I'm remembering correctly). It was smart, it didn't pull punches on the hard stuff, tried it's best to show both sides as human rather than heroes and monsters, and while the battles were interesting, it was the QUIET moments that kept people (at least me) coming back to watch more. HBO made A LOT of money off that, plus all the awards...anyone else wondering why they didn't talk to the team that adapted that book to a miniseries and go "Treat this like actual events, come back with about 10 episodes", and there you go? Or even the "Saving Private Ryan" route if they're determined to make a movie?

I guess the thought of making something like WWZ in a similar vein as actual events was too intimidating to some studio execs afraid of controversy? I guess I?m just wondering if anyone else thinks that WWZ adaptation in a sort of ?Band of Brothers? style would be one of the better ways to do it?
 

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I mean, that was also a book based off of interviews (war veterans' recollections and some historical data if I'm remembering correctly). It was smart, it didn't pull punches on the hard stuff, tried it's best to show both sides as human rather than heroes and monsters, and while the battles were interesting, it was the QUIET moments that kept people (at least me) coming back to watch more. HBO made A LOT of money off that, plus all the awards...anyone else wondering why they didn't talk to the team that adapted that book to a miniseries and go "Treat this like actual events, come back with about 10 episodes", and there you go? Or even the "Saving Private Ryan" route if they're determined to make a movie?
I think studios (other then HBO I guess) are scared to pull punches. The Walking Dead TV series is VERY tame compared to the comic.

It's kind of sad really.
 

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WanderingFool said:
Know what made me decide it was gonna be a bad movie?



Zombie wave...
Don't hate on the zombie wave! It's one of mother nature's most wondrous sights.
 

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Irish_Rogue said:
Maybe I'm just not reading closely enough to see if anyone else has mentioned this. While I've read the ZSG, haven't read WWZ. Boyfriend wants to go see WWZ, seriously debating saying no. My thought is if you're adapting a book that's realistic and all about interviews in flashback, I agree the TV show might be best.

But no one has mentioned a "Band of Brothers" type of adaptation for this book. From what I've read here, that would have been the perfect thing to go for.

I mean, that was also a book based off of interviews (war veterans' recollections and some historical data if I'm remembering correctly). It was smart, it didn't pull punches on the hard stuff, tried it's best to show both sides as human rather than heroes and monsters, and while the battles were interesting, it was the QUIET moments that kept people (at least me) coming back to watch more. HBO made A LOT of money off that, plus all the awards...anyone else wondering why they didn't talk to the team that adapted that book to a miniseries and go "Treat this like actual events, come back with about 10 episodes", and there you go? Or even the "Saving Private Ryan" route if they're determined to make a movie?

I guess the thought of making something like WWZ in a similar vein as actual events was too intimidating to some studio execs afraid of controversy? I guess I?m just wondering if anyone else thinks that WWZ adaptation in a sort of ?Band of Brothers? style would be one of the better ways to do it?
So, like a mini series? That seems more plausible. Higher quality over episode quantity. I can see the BBC pulling something like that, seasons consist of three episodes apiece.
 

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sky14kemea said:
I plan to see it anyway, and I'll probably enjoy it, but it sucks to hear that it's getting a bad reception because it doesn't live up to the book.

I understand how book fans get annoyed at the films, I got a little irritable when watching the Harry Potter films.

The main reason I'm looking forward to War Z is because I've seen pretty much all the good zombie flics I can think of, and I welcome a new one that isn't some B-movie or low budget thing.
It is not even on the same level as the minor changes here and there with Harry Potter. It's more like if they took Harry Potter and turned it into an edgy supernatural thriller where instead of wands, they have guns that shoot magic bullets. It's just such a drastic departure from the source material that it's insulting.

SonOfVoorhees said:
They say the interview aspect wouldnt work. But it could. You have the interview at the start for maybe 10 minutes and then the movie begins based as a flashback. You see the movie, at the end it goes back to the interview. They could have done many sequels based on different peoples stories. Or maybe a TV series would be better.
It would've been very easy to keep to the interview format if they made a smart mockumentary (not a funny documentary, a fictional one). Narrator, talking heads, poignant still shots of a post-WWZ landscape, "actual footage," and a few dramatic reenactment here and there, the whole shebang. The book was just begging to be adapted in that style, but leave it to Hollywood to turn it a by the numbers big budget summer blockbuster.
 

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I haven't even seen the movie yet, but the trailer terrified me. I remember my first thought being "Oh, a Resident Evil mov- what? That's what they did with World War Z?"
When I first saw the trailer I seriously thought that this was a sequel to "28 Weeks later" up until they finally showed the title.
 

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Zetatrain said:
Rottweiler said:
I haven't even seen the movie yet, but the trailer terrified me. I remember my first thought being "Oh, a Resident Evil mov- what? That's what they did with World War Z?"
When I first saw the trailer I seriously thought that this was a sequel to "28 Weeks later" up until they finally showed the title.
The funny thing is I personally talked to a lot of people after seeing World War Z and none of them were aware that it was a zombie movie. They just thought it was another action sci fi celebrity vehicle. And the worst part is they were right.
 

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Massive fan of the book and went and saw the movie.

I didn't hate it as much as I thought I would. That's the nicest thing I can say about it. There were, grudgingly a few sections of decent action and even a few freaky moments and even one or two actual emotional scenes that suprised me. Also there are a few, a few and incredibly sparse moments clearly taken from the book. There is a bit from Korea where we see an old doctor tending to a patient (in the book it was China and he didn't get eaten but whatever) which reminded a lot of the first chapter of the book, there was also an extended bit in Israel talking about ho the country sealed itself up and let refugees in which was another section from the book (there was also a spy-type character who mentions 'digging' for information which also happened in the book) and once or twice the term 'Patient Zero' is dropped also I'm not sure but a possible reference to the nuclear attack between India and Pakistan might have come up.
But that's about it. No mention of Jessica Hendricks and her family traveling up North, no mention of Yonkers or Todd Wainio, no Paul Redecker, no pilot who possibly had split personality disorder. Also Israel gets attacked which never happened in the book but it was still one of the best action scenes in the movie so maybe that can be forgiven and for a movie called 'World War Z' we see America, Korea at Night, Israel and somewhere in Glascow. Other places we just see in Montage form.

Plus I'm not going to spoil it but there is a huge 'fuck you' deus ex machina ending that really doesn't belong anywhere near Max Brook's story. Maybe if it had just been Brad Pitt's character going all over the world with each section being a reference to some event that happens in the book like Yonkers, the mass immigration of India, The travel up North and The South African plan maybe then the movie wouldn't be quite so painful. It still would only vaguely resemble the original movie but there would still be some fun in a 'hey look remember this from the book?' kind of way.

Also, PG-13. This is easily the most tame zombie movie I have ever seen. I don't even remember seeing a single drop of blood anywhere in this movie. It's a zombie movie gore is kind of expected. And the Max Brooks zombies were flesh eaters, people getting infected were incidental whereas in the movie a point is made that the zombies are only trying to infect people.

Ehhh I'm mad at this movie but there were a few genuienly okay elements that softened the blow. There are worse things to watch and in terms of bad adaptation it at least isn't Cat in the hat levels of bastardization. However the much better zombie movie of 2013 is still The Evil Dead so if you must see two zombie movies this year, watch that one first.
 

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I'm still going to go see it.

But...

It's just more zombie.

Enough with the zombies.

How many more zombie/infected moves/books/games/TV shows can they make?

-_-