There's always the chance they make a zombie movie off a game. I can see a cash-in happening once Dead Rising or Left 4 Dead become more popular.80sboy said:
World War Z (the movie) just isn't very good
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Why am I not terribly surprised?
From what I understand, World War Z the movie was so wide spread, dealt with so many characters, over such a long time frame that it was impossible to direct adapt it. So, it looks like they just got the rights, slapped the title on the first zombie script they could, called Pitt, and started filming.
From what I understand, World War Z the movie was so wide spread, dealt with so many characters, over such a long time frame that it was impossible to direct adapt it. So, it looks like they just got the rights, slapped the title on the first zombie script they could, called Pitt, and started filming.
Do they ever explain how a horde of mindless zombies could be organized enough to quickly make towers to take out helicopters, get up walls, and the other showpiece moments from the trailers? Or how the infection was able to spread across continents in a matter of days?Johnny Novgorod said:
Not G. Ivingname said:
No. It's just assumed they have some sort of elaborate hive mind guiding them. All they do is pile up though.
Yes. During the beginning of the movie we can see and hear a news report going on in the background about a plane crash from a few days earlier (and Marshall Law being announced ever since). It's assumed that's the source of the zombie spread linking Eurasia with America. Later on we get to experience a plane crash from within that illustrates perfectly how such a thing would happen.
EDIT: Also, it takes exactly 12 seconds for a person to turn into a zombie. So zombies basically snowball over people and the horde gets bigger every few seconds. One fine example of those "unstoppable forces of nature".
I don't know if the movie talks about it since it's not out here yet, but Max Brooks elaborates on the "organization" of the zombies in The Zombie Survival Guide as such:Not G. Ivingname said:
Essentially there is zero organization among zombies. No matter how many of them there are, they're all individuals driven by one goal. the same goal the virus has. Spread the virus and/or eat.
What brings them together into zombie waves, and piles, and seemingly efficient maneuvers is the simple fact that each one responds to the signs of prey, and they head towards it to try and get to it. The ones that head towards it generally make noise, or cause more noise and this attracts more zombies, and this can domino effect until there's massive herds of zombies. especially when there's a great deal of them in close proximity.
The waves are simply individuals trying to get to the prey, and there just happens to be a zombie they can go over in the process, so they unwittingly build ramps, ladders, and so forth that they can climb over. The fact that they're fast zombies now only makes it easier for them to swarm.
As for how fast the infection spreads, well, it's simple. Walk up to someone, and tell them there's a zombie outbreak, or was one. Odds are they aren't going to believe you. That reality is the world of Max Brooks.
Hospitals won't believe there's some strange zombie virus out there, especially if it's never been seen, or widely accepted before. They'll misdiagnose Solanum, the name Max uses for the zombie virus which roughly translates into sleep walking. Even faced with a recently reanimated cadaver, they won't immediately suspect it's a zombie, so they'll likely mishandle the situation, and get bitten, or get others bitten. Violence breaks out. Zombies begin to fill the hospital preying on the weak, the injured, or the careless. Those people become zombies, immune to the pains that might have held them back, and fully able to use all the strength the body can muster sans adrenaline. They inffect more people.
Morgues are also a typical location for the dead. It's unlikely anyone suspects that they'll stop being dead, and attack them, so there's some zombies there, too. Luckily the already dead are unlikely, if it's even possible, to get infected, and rise. They'll merely be eaten.
Solanum, as far as the books go, alters life. It does not create it.
Police forces, security forces, and so forth aren't going to believe they're zombies instantly. They'll try non lethal take downs, and body shots with more frequency than an ourtight head shot. Any one infected, or any zombie they arrest, they'll be taken to police stations under the assumption that there is no zombie virus. The infection could easily spread there. Especially in crowded holding cells.
Every grouping of non-believers, the ignorant, and such that deals with people readily is a potential hot bed of zombie fodder.
They didn't include Yonkers? But that's like on of the most interesting parts of the book. The ineffectiveness of military technology against the zombies is one of the pillars of the zombie apocalypse. Without it, you'll be kept wondering how all these well trained soldiers weren't able to handle a bunch of zombies. More importantly, it would have made a glorious set piece within a movie. I thought it would be a no-brainer to include in even the crappies version of a movie. Hollywood, I'm so dissapoint.
That's a great explanation of the book. Kudos!Rebel_Raven said:
Which makes this movie even weirder, if the fast zombies didn't destroy the novelty of WWZ the hyper part of the virus does. Part of the book seems to play off the recent epidemics and the way they spread. Through frequent flyers who quickly scatter across the world (combined of course with the organ trade mentioned before). You see how hard modern diseases can be to contain due to incubation time. How could anyone in the movie be able to spread this disease from patient Zero to others, without a serious incubation time?
I dunno if they kept it or not, or had some variation of it, but I certainly agree with you, that it needs something like that. They really need to explain the threat of the zombie. The lack of doing so is probably why we have the fast infected/running zombies when, IMO, slow zombies were enough.oraclekun said:
I think a lot of people are going to assume that everyone in the military will know they're fighting zombies, and use tactics accordingly, when odds are they won't believe they're zombies, and treat the situation like a giant riot of living people, and use non-lethal (and thus generally useless) methods against zombies, or at the least, treat it as conventional warfare, which it isn't.
And "a bunch" is something of an understatement. At the battle of Yonkers there were in the area of 3 million zombies headed towards prey, and headed after those headed after prey, and so forth on the move.
Man, it would've been a glorious thing to have the battle of Yonkers in the movie. I hope they didn't ignore the potential of something like it.
Hollywood ruining my favourite books is nothing new, but I have not been this pissed that they are claiming to use World War Z the book as source material, I have not been the mad since the I am Legend movie. I felt violated after I saw that movie, a movie I had been looking forward to ever since I saw The Last man on earth with Vincent Price. Luckily this time around I saw the trailers for this movie and knew then and there that they had completely butchered the book.... everything from the narrative, to the characters and the setting. So I was prepared for the blow this time, but it still aches. If only Max Brooks had the balls to ensure his book got translated into film, with the story and narrative preserved, instead of just taking the money and letting it get fucked over from every angle. I wish we could have gotten a proper cinematic translation, something which would have been hard to accomplish unless you went for the low budget solution and merely described the battles and stories through interviews like in the book.
If you haven't read the book, and have even the slightest interest in zombies or post apocalyptic dystopias then do yourself a favour get the abridged audiobook and listen to it, or the other audio book the casting and acting in that recording is amazing, and the way the words are strung together just capture your attention till the very end.
If you haven't read the book, and have even the slightest interest in zombies or post apocalyptic dystopias then do yourself a favour get the abridged audiobook and listen to it, or the other audio book the casting and acting in that recording is amazing, and the way the words are strung together just capture your attention till the very end.
I said that because we get 2x1 movie Wednesdays in Argentina as well, which I don't think I ever saw in any other country.pandorum said:
i get your sentiment, the bad thing is that all they have to do is pick a relatively slow week and they will make a ton of money, and so far some reviewers have given the movie a pass and not panned for being so damn generic.MPerce said:
Man we are the same page, I never get why the hell they get books as source material, and only seem to use the title and throw the story out. But you have to remember that anything nerdy is cool now, it is from the nerd sub culture that holly wood is getting all their "ideas", anything nerdy will get blown up to the big screen after the source material has been beaten and tortured. WWZ might not be big mainstream, but it I huge in the nerd subculture so that's why they are using the book, even if it is just for name dropping, and ill admit World War Z is a cool name.
I do not mind movie adaptations but I despise the arrogance and ignorance of even acknowledging the original story or sometimes concept, in favour of mediocrity and blargh!
Thanks! I can't help but be somewhat thorough since I'm such a huge fan of Max Brooks. It seems like brilliance runs in the family as he's the son of Mel Brooks.oraclekun said:
You bring up strong points, too. It's far more than the hotbeds being infected, it's the people fleeing by every means possible, infected organs being donoated, and blood travelling, and basically all the real ways a real virus can travel so rapidly.
Solanum can "kill" the infected, then raise dead in less than 24 hours.
I believe you also brought up an interesting trait, too, in the incredible persistence of the zombies. Indeed, it's true, as the zombies have no concerns about stamina, or their own well being. They can act as long as they have mucscles to act with, and a working brain to control them.
Solanum also preserves the zombie so that only few bacterias work on decaying the corpse, so they are able to stave off decay far longer than a normal corpse! On average a zombie can remain active for 5 years! Longer, or shorter depending on the environment, and activity, naturally.
Further to the advantage of the zombie, the virus makes the flesh toxic to the point that any animal that eats it dies, if they even bother trying to eat it as animals avoid zombies as best they can as they retain something humans lost in detecting the infected. Insects also avoid zombies as best they can, too.
Humans dining on such zombies also die, but unless they have open wounds in contact with the zombie's fluids (all of it is infected, even the gelled blood) they won't zombify later.
The second clue: the script was still being written even though they had already shot the damn movie.Zachary Amaranth said:
I'm afraid I did not. Paramount hired two writers from Lost to rewrite the movie's third act months after the shot had been officially wrapped up. I summarized the re-shoots in the OP but you can google away, the troubled production of WWZ has been reported by several sources.Zachary Amaranth said:
