I'm dutch and all I can think of are the Epic/Date/Disaster Movies. And all movies starring Paris Hilton.
Somebody should pitch that idea to Hollywood! I'm thinking either Darren Aronofsky or Quentin Tarantino should direct it. You have just thought up next year's blockbuster.gimmesometea said:While on holidays in Spain, I watched a Chinese film about a crazy man searching for his lost love.
His best friend's name was Chow Mein, and when his friend died he yelled "NO!! CHOW MEIN!!!", and ran off into the distance.
He could jump over fences like 2D mario, without having to move his legs (and whenever he jumped he went "YAARHH!").
It had the worst, no, the best, well, the most hilarious combat I've ever seen in a film. No one got near to touching each other, and people just collapsed onto the floor without getting hit.
To top it off, at the end came the most awkword kiss in history. It was like a brother and sister had been cast as the two of them.
It was the best movie ever.
Verp said:Since I'm a foreigner to who are the vast majority of this forum, I feel that I'm entitled to nominate Dungeons & Dragons. But if I look at it from your point of view, there's a few Chinese films I could mention. I just don't understand the point of films like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Curse of the Golden Flower, or The House of Flying Daggers -- while the setting, locations, costumes, and coreographies are sometimes be marvelous to look at, I find just about everything else generic and unappealing. Maybe it's the cultural differences, but I'm not able to take any of the drama, romance, or intrigue seriously. To me it's like there's a huge buildup, then everyone's kung-fu fighting, and then everyone and their mother ends up miserable or dies. Aaand, that's it.
those two films were directed by the guy who did 'wanted'. so guess what? they got the same treatment. reading the original stories does not help at all really.generic gamer said:worst foriegn films i've ever seen have to be nightwatch and day watch. don't get me wrong, generally i like world cinema, i'll watch a good film wherever its from.
unfortunately for me those were not good films. the story isn't ever fully explained, i know i should probably have read the book first but thats no excuse, the basic premise should still be made understandable even if some of the nuances are left unexplained. i mean, if no one can understand the fim why even make it?
The books won't help you, the films take massive liberties, might as well be another work. I read the books inbetween the films, but they both still made sense. What got you confused?generic gamer said:worst foriegn films i've ever seen have to be nightwatch and day watch. don't get me wrong, generally i like world cinema, i'll watch a good film wherever its from.
unfortunately for me those were not good films. the story isn't ever fully explained, i know i should probably have read the book first but thats no excuse, the basic premise should still be made understandable even if some of the nuances are left unexplained. i mean, if no one can understand the fim why even make it?
generic gamer said:StevieWonderMk2 said:generic gamer said:it was mostly the little incidentals if i'm honest, probably russian cultural points that i was just clueless about. i got most of the story and the human interactions, it was the symbolism of certain things in the films. my main points of confusion were:
why are there mosquitoes in the gloom?
Mosquito's are magic? Or maybe it's not mosquitoes, perhaps it's some gloom-insect. I like having some unexplained mysteries in the world.
is every other able to enter the gloom? some seem better than others but its never openly explained how the system works.
Yup, all others can enter, but it saps your strength pretty quickly (the whole creepy petrified-arm bit) The stronger you are, the longer you can survive. Svetlana is much stronger than Anton, so she can break into the second layer (that bit with the window that anton can't get through)
what is the mechanism that means vampires need to drink blood? anton only seems to need to drink it when he wants to access his powers to track people, but the dark others seem to need to drink it. do they, or have they just taken to drinking it? or is anton something else, a being that uses blood to power his abilities but doesn't need it?
Yeah, the nature of the Dark Others could have been better explained. The vampires need blood, I guess it makes the other-Others stronger. Anton drinks pigs blood at the start of NightWatch so that he can hear the call being sent to Egor/Ygor. The butcher's he goes to are vampires (might be his neighbour Kostya/Konstantin, can't remember) who explain it briefly, it's pretty easy to miss
why are zavulon's henchmen playing a game with him in it? (i know its foreshadowing, but its such an odd place to have it)
Same reason he has a sword for a spine, he's Zavulon and he's fucking badass. He was manipulating everything from the begining (even got Anton's weapon - the light tubing - right) and was either playing the game for shits and giggles or using it to predict the future
what is olga's ability? she seems to have been turned into an owl, rather than turning into one by choice. is she just a skilled warrior more than a person with a special ability (i assume the night watch recruits for martial ability as well as powers)
She's just a normal Other, imprisoned as an Owl for some unknown crime.
in the second film, anton's son (yegor?) sucks the life out of an old lady, using a carton of juice as a prop (this looked silly to me i'll confess) he's never needed to do this before so why does he do it now? is it purely to antagonise the nightwatch?
Zavulon is training him up. The blood presumably makes him stronger
Yeah...there are a lot of little niggles. I've done my best to answer them, answers in bold.
One thing that did confuse me is how Yegor won't become full-proper-antichrist-dark-other until his birthday, giving zavulon enough power to break the truce. It was pretty glossed over, took me far too long to make sense of it.
There does seem to be an odd trend in European cinema to explain as little as possible, whilst American films typically beat you over the head with every last detail. My friend's theory is that this is due to very badly translated Hollywood films in the early days. Europeans have got used to surreal, non-sensical films and make all their cinema like that.
In some films (Kontroll, Pan's Labyrinth etc.) it pays off really well, but Nightwatch did rather shoot itself in the foot. It's still a very fun stylish action film.
Despite it's flaws I think you're being a tad harsh in labeling it the worst ever. That honour belongs to, and probably always will : Manos:The Hands of Fate.
Kieslowski? "Horrible"?Sigel said:I had to watch a series of French movies called "Red", "White" and "Blue" all done by the same writer or director(I can't remember) who used the title color a lot in each film. I thought they were horrible, and boring. It was to pass my language class though, so I had to watch them.
Honestly, I could have been burnt out by then so I could have been just bitter and angry. That French teacher had us watch a ton of French movies and translate them. On the plus side I got to see and enjoy City of Lost Children, Delicatessen, and Amelie(sp?).LiquidGrape said:Kieslowski? "Horrible"?Sigel said:I had to watch a series of French movies called "Red", "White" and "Blue" all done by the same writer or director(I can't remember) who used the title color a lot in each film. I thought they were horrible, and boring. It was to pass my language class though, so I had to watch them.
Oh dear.
That could be a cogent factor. But it could just as well be that wonderful little thing called taste, which is one of the true indicatives of our individuality.Sigel said:Honestly, I could have been burnt out by then so I could have been just bitter and angry. That French teacher had us watch a ton of French movies and translate them. On the plus side I got to see and enjoy City of Lost Children, Delicatessen, and Amelie(sp?).
It's all cool amigo. For all my study of the French language(4 yrs high school, and 2 semesters in college) I can only say 4 sentences in perfect french.LiquidGrape said:That could be a cogent factor. But it could just as well be that wonderful little thing called taste, which is one of the true indicatives of our individuality.Sigel said:Honestly, I could have been burnt out by then so I could have been just bitter and angry. That French teacher had us watch a ton of French movies and translate them. On the plus side I got to see and enjoy City of Lost Children, Delicatessen, and Amelie(sp?).
I didn't mean to undermine your opinion, and I really hope that wasn't the impression I gave off. It's just that I had never heard that particular term applied to Kieslowski before!
Anyway, I agree on that Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro are fantastic filmmakers.
Three great ones you listed there.