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stompy

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Theoretically, if you're talking about protagonists that don't have any back story, you could mention Jack from Bioshock, Gordon Freeman, that guy from TimeShift, ect. Most of them have very shallow backgrounds, and their main purpose is to allow the player to interact with the game, making it seem as if they are in the game. There's nothing wrong with them, just that they aren't very fleshed out.
 

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mechsword42 said:
Here's an easy one: Raiden from MGS2. Possibly one of the worst protagonists ever.
Nevar. The raiden fa-
You know what, I can't say that sentence with a straight face. raiden fans...pfft
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
But while Snake accepts what he does and has done, Raiden runs and pretends it never happened. Thats why "I'm done running" in MGS4 is such a moving line.
Yes and no. I sort of feel that Raiden and Snake are dealing with their pasts in ways fitting to their namesakes. One by lashing out and striking anything and everything that he feels has wronged him (all the while running from a real family, real life, etc, which is what I think he meant when he said he was done running). While Snake seems much more methodical and driven by a sense of responsibility (or strength of purpose) than revenge.
 

shatnershaman

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Arbiter! Ruined Halo 2.

Worst non Halo protagonist

Toad "The princess is in another castle!" Fuck you Toad.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
PEWPEWGreenLaser said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
But while Snake accepts what he does and has done, Raiden runs and pretends it never happened. Thats why "I'm done running" in MGS4 is such a moving line.
Yes and no. I sort of feel that Raiden and Snake are dealing with their pasts in ways fitting to their namesakes. One by lashing out and striking anything and everything that he feels has wronged him (all the while running from a real family, real life, etc, which is what I think he meant when he said he was done running). While Snake seems much more methodical and driven by a sense of responsibility (or strength of purpose) than revenge.
It was a mixture of the two. Remember the whole thing at the end of 2 about why they chose Raiden, as well as how he never actually told Rose anything?

And what does Raiden actually mean, anyway?
Absolutely. Part of Raiden hiding his past felt, to me anyway, like it was done more out of shame than anything else. He didn't want to face the life that he had led, so he hid it away out of fear that if anyone actually knew him, they would shun him similar to the conflict that Dexter feels about his true nature as a serial killer.

On Raiden, his name is derived from the Japanese god of thunder and lightning, Raijin.
 

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PEWPEWGreenLaser said:
mechsword42 said:
Here's an easy one: Raiden from MGS2. Possibly one of the worst protagonists ever.
Dude. Why the Raiden hate? No argument that Snake > Raiden, but all in all he wasn't that bad of a guy. I think most of the hate comes from the let down of being shocked by his appearance as the main playable character in MGS2, but that could just be me.

Raiden had a perfectly legitimate storyline and is actually a fairly interesting parallel to Solid Snake; a soldier born and a soldier bred. The interaction between the two is also pretty awesome. I dunno... maybe I don't hate Raiden because I didn't hate MGS2.
MGS2 was the first one I played and I knew in advance that the characters switched after the demo tanker. I also liked the game, lame melodramatic story, ridiculous climax and all. I hated Raiden anyway because he was a stereotypical whiny japanese manboy protagonist. Let me put it this way: I actually liked Rose. You know why? Because she made Raiden suffer. He managed to be so irritating that he was an entirely unsympatheic character to me.

The election for worst protagonist is actually a tie: Marcus Fenix and Master Chief, please stand up. They both manage to have less personality than even the King of Ciphers, Gordon Freeman, despite the fact that they actually have faces and voice acting. That accomplishment makes them infamous. Maybe we should have runoff. Instagib Deathmatch anyone?

P.S.
The Arbiter was way cooler than the Master Chief could ever hope to be.
 

blaze96

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Drake from Drake of the 99 Dragons I never played that game but just from looking at not only the wikipedia entry for the story and watching the review I can tell he was horrific. He had the pasty white skin of someone who never entered into daylight, had jay leno's chin with implants, and to top it all off had the soulless eyes of one of those life sized dolls whose eyes seem to follow you around the room. His story was uninteresting with the standard "you-killed-my-friends/master/surrogate-family-now-I-must-kill-you" storyline we all know way too well. That and he wasn't even a good character to play auto-aim had his arms flail wildly and the camera made jumping and even basic movement a near impossibility. So tell me where you can find a worse to play character with such an uninteresting story and I will send you a gold medal from the beijing olympics through the internet with whatever an actual athlete won it for crossed out and with your screen name and "found the worst character possible" written where the sport should be. (I jump around a lot I know and I apologize so pleases forgive me.)
 

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I'd like to submit Tidus, but I can't. For all his flaws and being a complete waste of space and imagination, he annoyed me less than Zidane from FF9. Zidane was much more colorful than most characters in FF games, but he pissed me off so much. Just emo enough to have a few moments of "lemme alone!". Just care bear enough to spout stupidity every 15 seconds. I might have been able to forgive that but he was a thief. That pissed me off so much. I don't want the thief character to be the center point of the story. Why? By the end of the game, your "Thief" isn't really much of a thief, he just ends up being a stupid thief like hero. Everything about him just pisses me off, and most of it I can't even explain. I did like Freya and Armarant from FF9, if not for the two of them I might not have beaten the game.

So there is the worst, so who was the best? For me Cecil was awesome, till he turned into a Paladin. He gets an Honorable mention. Caim from Drakken gard was another good one. I don't want to get into a big rant here, but I liked him. There was Zetta, from Makai kingdom. He was a lot of fun. Conan is also always fun to play as, and Zero from the Megaman Series is one of my personal favorites.

I'd like to leave off that, I am surprised nobody has brought up the Pokemon trainer from the Pokemon Series. I mean, I don't care, but it seems to me that, for somebody else he/she should be at the top of a list.
 

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end_boss said:
The Noid.

I win.
Was that an old Genesis game? Maybe even NES? So long ago...
Also, I present you with one series of tubes sometimes know as the interwebs.
 

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worst protagonist? not really sure, probably, the guy from UT3 that bearly has a story line anyway.

As for the best, it has to go to Ethan Thomas, when hes in Condemned 2 anyway, how can you not love the angry, drunk, violent version of the chosen one?
 

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shatnershaman said:
Arbiter! Ruined Halo 2.
I disagree there.

I wish there was more Arbiter in Halo 3, in fact I wish there was more Halo 3 in general.

The Arbiter beat the Master Chief, in my opinion, as a better protagonist, as he shows the Human/Covenant war from the Covenant's point of view. That was one of the main reasons why I was a Halo fanboy in the beginning, before I discovered the wonders of Tim Schafer and Valve.
I also didn't like the Master Chief's cracks. He also seemed less heroic than crazy in Halo 3.

Worst protagonist: Probably Squall from FF8. I didn't hate him, as such, but he was still a complete douche for a good guy.
 

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Lord Krunk said:
shatnershaman said:
Arbiter! Ruined Halo 2.
I disagree there.

I wish there was more Arbiter in Halo 3, in fact I wish there was more Halo 3 in general.

The arbiter beat the Master Chief, in my opinion, as a better protagonist, as he shows the Human/Covenant war from the Covenant's point of view.
I also didn't like the Master Chief's cracks. He also seemed less heroic than crazy in Halo 3.

Worst protagonist: Probably Squall from FF8. I didn't hate him, as such, but he was still a complete douche for a good guy.
Your in the minority dude. (Very few are elites online and all elites are teamed on/team killed)
 

Lord Krunk

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shatnershaman said:
Lord Krunk said:
shatnershaman said:
Arbiter! Ruined Halo 2.
I disagree there.

I wish there was more Arbiter in Halo 3, in fact I wish there was more Halo 3 in general.

The arbiter beat the Master Chief, in my opinion, as a better protagonist, as he shows the Human/Covenant war from the Covenant's point of view.
I also didn't like the Master Chief's cracks. He also seemed less heroic than crazy in Halo 3.

Worst protagonist: Probably Squall from FF8. I didn't hate him, as such, but he was still a complete douche for a good guy.
Your in the minority dude. (Very few are elites online and all elites are teamed on/team killed)
Yeah, that's ACTUAL Halo fanboys for you. I enjoyed the story. I didn't actually feel hatred for the Covenant, because they were misled from the beginning. (What am I saying? Mustn't unleash the now-dead fanboy in me)

And TK-ers are even bigger douches than Squall. It's one of the MANY MANY reasons why I like TF2.

EDIT: Let's just say I enjoyed the concept of Halo 2 being a 2-sided game.
 

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rowan-thats-me said:
worst protagonist? not really sure, probably, the guy from UT3 that bearly has a story line anyway.

As for the best, it has to go to Ethan Thomas, when hes in Condemned 2 anyway, how can you not love the angry, drunk, violent version of the chosen one?
C2 was such a clusterfuck, Yet so soothing... Now if he was irish and everytime he killed some he clicked his ankle thingy and drunk and talked in a lepchuren whatever way he could be voted as the "Best chosen one"
 

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Probably Vaan or Tidus, they both seem pretty much the same to me. And what made it worse was that charecters like Auron or Balthier were made to play side roles when they were so much cooler.