Worst RPG Ever?

[Delsana]

Dragon Age 2... couldn't gain a moment of enjoyment out of it, and I forgave it a lot... also poorly balanced... huge health bars, gameplay, issues, poor story implementation... just can't stand that garbage and now the 10 dollar DLC that is also garbage.

 

[TriggerHappyAngel]

"The last Remnant" crap

Poor Last Remnant, nobody ever treats you like I do, do they?

OT: You should play an RPG that was reviewed by the Angry VG Nerd (like Hydlide).

Yeah, Last Remnant actually had a good combat system, that I would love to see implemented in other RPGs. It makes managing a very large party workable and allows for a different level of strategy in putting together your different groups. It's got practically infinite customizability.

Unfortunately, though, that was the only good thing about it, as far as I got (a little over halfway). Maybe I'll review it and give it what it deserves should I ever get around to actually finishing it. I've got another JRPG to finish first...

The combat felt unique and refreshing indeed and besides that the music and visuals were great too. Good to see that I'm not the only one who appreciates that.

 

[Delsana]

I also never liked the original Witcher... crash every 30 minutes on a new system no matter what I did with the "bugless" version.

Also didn't like the game.

Liked Witcher 2 though, go figure.

 

[King Toasty]

To the guy saying that Me2 is among the worst RPGs of all time: Everyone is entitled tot heir opinion, but they have to back it up. The best defense for your statement I've seen is, "it's a corridor-shooter". Considering it's Mass Effect 2, gameplay isn't a massive part of the actual game. You'd have to look at story, visual style and character development to criticize it properly. I didn't want to directly quote you to minimize chance of flame war.

That said, Two Worlds wins my vote. Boring everything, everywhere. Gameplay, story, characters, motivations, inventory, everything.

On a happier side note, my two FAVORITE RPGs are Kingdom Hearts (1 and 2, counts as one game) and Mass Effect 2.

 

[Per Kaas]

Final Fantasy X and X-2.
(Bring on the rage. ;D)

 

[infinity_turtles]

Dragon Warrior
Final Fantasy 1-7
Breath of Fire 1 and 2
The Granstream Saga
Beyond the Beyond
Guardian's Crusade
Legend of Mana
Chrono Trigger
Wizardry 5: Heart of the Maelstrom
Earthbound (I NEED TO PLAY EARTHBOND ZERO!!!)
Megaman battle Network 1
Brain lord
Tales of Phantasia on GBA
Live-a-Live
Quest 64
Lagoon (SCREW this game. Freakin' SCREW IT.)

....So, that should provide more of the flavour of RPG's I'm looking to try and rip me hair out with. And thusly we continue the conversation

Okay, this game isn't all that hard, but with a list as close to mine as that one, I'm going to go ahead and throw out a game I think you might enjoy. Thousand Arms. Definitely play Thousand Arms.

 

[veloper]

To the guy saying that Me2 is among the worst RPGs of all time: Everyone is entitled tot heir opinion, but they have to back it up. The best defense for your statement I've seen is, "it's a corridor-shooter". Considering it's Mass Effect 2, gameplay isn't a massive part of the actual game. You'd have to look at story, visual style and character development to criticize it properly. I didn't want to directly quote you to minimize chance of flame war.

That said, Two Worlds wins my vote. Boring everything, everywhere. Gameplay, story, characters, motivations, inventory, everything.

On a happier side note, my two FAVORITE RPGs are Kingdom Hearts (1 and 2, counts as one game) and Mass Effect 2.

He got it much more wrong than just that: TS was calling for the HARD, unfair and grindy type of bad.

And people here offer weaksauce suggestions like KOTOR, Planescape and in this case, ME2. They must have abysmally poor gaming skills.

That's ignoring the fact that Nintendo 64 and before doesn't ring any bells with them.

 

[King Toasty]

To the guy saying that Me2 is among the worst RPGs of all time: Everyone is entitled tot heir opinion, but they have to back it up. The best defense for your statement I've seen is, "it's a corridor-shooter". Considering it's Mass Effect 2, gameplay isn't a massive part of the actual game. You'd have to look at story, visual style and character development to criticize it properly. I didn't want to directly quote you to minimize chance of flame war.

That said, Two Worlds wins my vote. Boring everything, everywhere. Gameplay, story, characters, motivations, inventory, everything.

On a happier side note, my two FAVORITE RPGs are Kingdom Hearts (1 and 2, counts as one game) and Mass Effect 2.

He got it much more wrong than just that: TS was calling for the HARD, unfair and grindy type of bad.

And people here offer weaksauce suggestions like KOTOR, Planescape and in this case, ME2. They must have abysmally poor gaming skills.

That's ignoring the fact that Nintendo 64 and before doesn't ring any bells with them.

Yeah, I've never had the... opportunity to play N64 RPGs. And I would LOVE to keep it that way, so Two Worlds is the worst RPG I've played. Although FF13 comes in close.

And yeah, if you think ME2 is hard, unfair and grindy, you're in the wrong hobby.

 

[veloper]

Bard's Tale 2: The Destiny Knight

It's old, oldskool, unfair, hard.

It also got pretty good reviews at the time, but judge for yourself. It's huge and maybe a handful of people have ever beat it. The final dungeons are next to impossible even if you cheat with unlimited gold.

I was about to say holy crap there's a sequel until I researched it; instead, I have this to say: Wait, so the Hitchhiker's Guide-style parody of RPGs that I love is a remake?

Not a remake. Somebody must have liked the name of Bard's Tale alot to revive it. The oldskool Bard's Tale and the new Bard's Tale are totally unrelated.

The true original series becomes so stupidly hard later on, I bet it's more than the original poster has bargained for.

 

[Phlakes]

Top 7 reasons that I say that FF7 is the worst RPG ever:

7: The combat system could have been passable if leveling materia wasn't such a painful slog.

6: I am assuming that the localization sucked and that the Japanese version didn't have holes in the story you could drive that stupid truck through.

5: Stupid, apparently Greenpeace-approved plot

4: Not a single character that I didn't want to see die horribly. At least that pushy bimbo bought it at the end of disc 1, but it really was over too quickly.

3: Yes, that includes the white-haired whiny bishie *****, all the fangirls and their magnesium panties be damned. Apparently you give Ghaleon a stupidly-long katana and that makes him the best villain evar!!

2: Spawning more crappy spinoffs than Happy Days.

And the number 1 reason that Final Fantasy VII is the worst RPG ever:

1: Snowboarding minigame.

Alright, here we go. Ahem-

7: I never had any problems with leveling. I basically never grind, and I ended up with a few mastered All Materia and a dozen or two mastered spells, plus 4x Cut which was a fucking god.

6: Well, every game has plot holes, none of them were big enough ruin the experience for me, and obviously for a lot of other people.

5: ...There's absolutely nothing wrong with plots about the environment. Especially back in its time.

4: Personal taste, I won't get into this one.

3: See above, also this isn't much of a point but I don't think you really meant it to be, whatever, moving on-

2: That doesn't change the quality of the original game in any way. That's like saying the original Star Wars trilogy is worse because the newer one exists.

1: Agreed.

 

[Sarkimedes]

I'd say Phantasy Star (the original one) - I'll admit that I haven't gotten very far through it before giving up, though. It suffers from all the problems old-school RPGs end up with (obscure objectives, overly-simplistic battle system etc.), and it's hard enough that I was getting wiped out in two rounds every time I strayed onto the world map.

 

[gCrusher]

Anything done by Palladium Games.

Oh, wait, video games? Dr. Chaos was an Adventure game, but felt like an RPG. And it sucked like nobody's business. Pure RPG would likely go to Wizardry: Proving Grounds, as the combat was very unfairly balanced against the heroes.

Also, Kevin Siembieda can bite me.

 

[malestrithe]

KotOR.

It did not keep my interest beyond 5 hours.

Right now is probably where people want to tell me, "the game gets better after after 8 hours," but I don't care. If the game does not give men any reasons to play the game to that point, I am going to put it down and play something more fun.

Final Fantasy 13 has the same problem. At 20 hours in, the game gets better, but you have to slough through a lot of boring to get there.

And no, it's not different because of whatever JRPG bias you seem to have. At its core, it is the exact same time commitment. You have to play to get to the good, which is never a good design elements in gaming.

 

[FredTheUndead]

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Them's some nice opinions you got there, pardner. /tips hat

Defend FF8. Go on, I'm curious as to what possible argument you could have for it. Or DA2 and FFX for that matter. F3 and ME2 I can sort of see if you just want to shoot things (though they're still terribly written).

FFX had the best story in the series. Combat was superb (2nd best in series), and the side-quests were fun, with Bliztball being the 2nd best side quest game (Triple Triad from FF8 being better). The characters had real depth, outside of Tidus, and the music, like just about anything Uematsu has ever done, is terrific. Sphere Grid was a fun level-up mechanic, which could have been done better, but better than the standard "Level Up, gain new ability" problems that so many RPGs have. It won Game of the Year for a reason, but I'm guessing you saw the ever famous "laugh" video on 4chan, and immediately thought the game was crap.

FF8 had 3rd best side quests, the best mini-game (Triple Triad) and the Junction System, while incredibly flawed, was inventive if nothing else. Combat was passable, the Junction System killed it. The characters were relatable, outside the human ball of angst that was Squall. Man, Final Fantasy main characters generally suck. I think that's why FFXII didn't have one. This was the weakest of the PS1 Final Fantasies, but not a TERRIBLE game.

Alright I'd rather not drag this out considering I'll cop to it and admit that I was just messing with people BUT I do genuinely dislike all those games I listed. FF8 I actually DO like the characters sans Rinoa and Squall, and the setting had potential, but it got mired in the romance and sorceress bullshit and fell apart, among the many other issues with that game that I could spend hours on but don't really want to because thinking of FF8 for extended periods of time makes me angry.

As for FFX, no I really do hate that game. I hate the characters, I hate the story, I hate blitzball, I hate the character design, and I hate the sphere grid. The voice acting is terrible in general, not just with the laughing scene, it's a game where even JOHN FUCKING DIMAGGIO is phoning it in. The only character I really like is Jecht, who is an absolute asshole but hilarious all the same (and actually not badly designed either if still a bit busy looking), and I probably hate that blue furry fuck and Seymour the most. I do like the battle system because it's truly turn based as opposed to ATB, but it's brought down by the Sphere grid and some other issues with the enemies and character building. The enemies are oh so many pallet swaps, this being another big tech change for Square probably explains that, and most of them have a tendency to be killed in one shot so long as you attack them with the right person. I get that they were trying to give everyone a job but it just makes it all feel so very routine. Plus then you get to the end of the game and almost everyone but Yuna becomes useless because of how broken the sphere grid and the aeons are. I also like the look of a lot of the game environments, but many of these are made irritating by stupid minigames like the lightning dodging or any given temple puzzle. It's a game with some bright spots and potential which it completely pisses away. X-2 is worse though.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

as true as that is FF 8 was still the worst one and haunts my memories as the great death of my time

I don't know about that. While it's true that a few parts of the story made me groan and there was the gigantic colossal dick move around the 3rd disc that ultimately prevented me from finishing the game, but overall I wouldn't say it was that bad.

@OP: If you are going to attempt this one, beware the dick move. It comes around the 3rd disc, I won't give away any major spoilers, but suffice it to say you'll be stiving to rescue Renoa and they'll be a tower involved. DON'T USE ANY SAVE POINTS INSIDE THE TOWER!!

What happens if you do? 0_0 (going to play FF8 soon, I should probably know this beforehand)

You get trapped in there and there's an insanely hard Boss fight at the top. ...well hard depending on how you've been playing the game up to that point. Impossible for me because my playstyle involved spamming the enemies with spells that would wipe out the entire enemy party.